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That makes me think of construction workers and their muscles. They basically lift things every day, have a pretty big "rest" time in between "reps" and they are BIG.

besides the fact that they get in significant isometric, concentric, and eccentric training per day, their diet is usually very adequate in calories, as many of them drink a good amount of beer and eat a good amount of "junk". There's not many "vege" construction workers, or ectomorphs for that matter, those people are usually pretty tough (meso, which the job pretty much requires) and eat big.

It's the same reason you don't usually see NFL types in the nba, the nature of the "job" dictates who works there.

peace

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Also, I think eccentric-less training is more natural and designed for our bodies, so perhaps better. Just a thought with no evidence, I wonder what everyone thinks.

more natural? there's absolutely nothing more "natural" than impacts. Reduce the impacts one experiences and the body will break down and deteriorate. Walking, jogging, sprinting, jumping, etc all cause the body to experience major eccentric forces, this is where all of the adaptations take place. You simply CANNOT go through life without considerable exposure to high eccentric forces, if you did, your bone mass, muscle mass, everything, would just disappear. Take an astronaut for example, that's an "eccentric-less environment", they have to simulate eccentric activity and use band tension to try and maintain strength, bone density, and lean mass... If they don't, they just fall apart and turn into piles of mush. Look at what happens to sedentary people, they turn to mush as well.

peace

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When I get bored, I like to read through some of the old threads on the Charlie Francis website.  There are a lot of really knowledgeable coaches who post there and the discussions get really interesting.

I was reading through one of these old discussions when I noticed the user Christian Thibaudeau who was posting in 03 in his pre-T-Nation days.

The discussion was about the frequency of training for the olympic weightlifting teams of bulgaria and the other eastern bloc countries.

According to Thibs, one of the primary reasons for their style (multiple sessions per day) was  as follows:

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2. Increased synaptic facilitation. There is evidence that motor learning is improved more by frequency of practice than by volume of practice. By training 2-3 times per day, event at equivolume, the motor learning effect is greater.

Vertical Jumping is a motor skill just like lifting weights is.  So wouldn't doing jump training multiple times a day on a training day be more beneficial?

I assume for a recovery standpoint it wouldn't be good to train every day but on training days this suggests that the optimal amount would be several (2-3) shorter jump sessions.  This should lead to better/faster results.

Thoughts on this?


I think for someone who lacks efficiency at jumping, it could definitely help to accelerate motor learning, as long as it's not maximal for every session throughout the day. For all others though, I think maximal jumping mutliple times per day has some problems. The most glaring issue I think it has is overuse. Maximal jumps are really intense on the joint surfaces, achilles, patella, and quad tendons. If you jump 2-3 times per day, maximally, at a somewhat high frequency (3-4x/week), I think your risk of overuse injury sky rockets. The stress placed on the joint articular surfaces of the ankle, knees, and spinal column is far greater than isotonic lifts. This is why I think you could squat/oly more safely, multiple times per day @ at high frequency, than jump multiple times per day at that same frequency. If you are "shut down" following the first session of the day, the 2nd and 3rd etc will be alot more risky. I personally feel like i've run out of certain "neurotransmitters" following a max effort jump session, hard to explain.

Beyond that, I think staleness is a huge issue. It's alot easier to push through staleness on oly's/squats etc, since you have a far greater time to display force. Also, lifts result in far greater "testosterone production" than jumps. If you are stale during jumps, you will have no motivation to actually jump. I imagine one would get stale fairly quickly jumping multiple times per day+high frequency. In these examples though, keep in mind lifts aren't ABSOLUTELY MAXIMAL during high frequency/multi session days, they usually are held back via heart rate/percentages/whatever, there's not usually a considerable psycheup... jumping maximally requires some psyching up, this would mean you have multiple psycheups per day, which just would result in way too much fatigue imo.

if the jumps are submax, for a motor learning goal, then it's doable, but max jumps, I just don't see it being effective.

peace man

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Program Review / Re: Jump Manual
« on: December 20, 2010, 12:02:15 am »
 "Substantial track and field background"- looks like you triple jumped 42 feet and five inches? nice man,srsly, I respect jumpers, I have worked with alot of them.  One of the female athletes I worked with throughout college here at Sam Houston jumped 42 feet and 11 and a half inches her sr year so I know and respect what kind of triple jump that is.

lol - I can't tell if this is serious or not.  I'm curious where you got that number, I jumped well over that in high school... haha...
I jumped more then that in high school, really nothing to brag about my high school and college athlete days were full of unreached potential... my college jumping career was nothing special...  it wasn't until after college sports that I actually "figured things out" and started getting results to be proud about.

42 aint too bad in high school for what it's worth.

what were your numbers in h.s./college? just curious.. You specialized in triple jump? Or did you high jump also? For what college?

peace man



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I communicate with Adam every now and then and actually had talked to him about this forum.

Regardless, you know me now... and from what i can tell you don't "really" have a problem with me.. I don't think, so if you have problems with me it'd be appreciated if you come to me first or at least inquire.

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Boxing / Re: bernard hopkins vs jean pascal - HOPKINS GOT ROBBED
« on: December 19, 2010, 11:42:44 pm »
you can't get knocked down twice and expect to win bro.

actually, yes you can.. that's two 10-8 rounds, hopkins won pretty much every round besides those two.


I'm agreeing with you, that's the excuse of the homer's that said he tied...hopkins was last knocked down 1995, and he was last knocked down 1994..That's pretty good, especially since he is so old
Pascal wants a rematch, he wanted to win outright...that would be great!

he'd kill pascal in a rematch, pascal is completely shook.

much props to bernard, what a beast at 45, looked 20's in that fight.

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Performance Training Blog / Re: Maximum Strength Effort Method
« on: December 19, 2010, 10:42:52 pm »
andrew, i dont get it. if we're doign fulkl squats, and ur doing half squqats cause it applies more to vertical jump, thn why am i doing full squats?

chao

i've yet to see a video of you squatting, so i can't comment on whether you should be doing half or full, but in general, people who don't have a bunch of experience under the bar should train with a greater ROM. Half squats for a beginner could be too much weight for the vertebral column.

peace

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Performance Training Blog / Re: Maximum Strength Effort Method
« on: December 19, 2010, 07:29:15 pm »
testing mpegstreamclip : MSEM half squat 315 x 9 @ 154 *AFTER* 2 hours of conditioning ::: adarq.org






WEAK DEPTH, msem half sq 325 @ 2x4 singles after 1 hour of fatiguing reactive work


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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: December 19, 2010, 07:14:26 pm »
courtesy of damien-swole

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96oAwbcT2Ck" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96oAwbcT2Ck</a>

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Basketball / Re: New T-Dub and Werm video...
« on: December 19, 2010, 06:58:42 pm »
check the shirt t-dub is wearing in his vid, pretty cool..

http://juicefreeathletics.com

seems like a campaign and to sell some clothes.




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welcome man

interested to see the 'sense of humour' they didn't get.. for what it's worth, the topic you picked for your intro is funny, office space ftw.

Thanks, glad someone can pick up on the Office Space quote. I can't read a sentence starting with 'yeeaahhh' without thinking about Bill Lumberg. Even his annoying voice comes into my head at that exact time.

The lumberg sex scene (in the dream) was the best, shit still has me lol'n.




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what's up with your knees?

pc

Well, after 5 different knee surgeries, and early effects of severe arthritis. And currently dealing with a stress fracture in my right knee cap...again, I simply cannot perform lately. On the court or in the weight room. It's really affecting the way I play. I'm not the most athletic guy, but typically I'm the only guy that combine any kind of skill and athleticism, but lately, that athleticism has been non-existent thanks to my knees, especially my right one with the stress fracture. I've been taking weeks at a time off to give it time to heal (I'm not playing again until the 2nd week of January), but the problem with that is I don't know how to properly strengthen and train my legs without putting any stress on my knees. I can't squat, I can't do heavy knee extensions because of the amount of stress it puts on my kneecaps and their lack of cartilage in there.

holy shit..........

damn sounds like you really need to be careful.. If you aren't going to train "knee bends", I would look into EMS, though I'm not sure how effective home bought versions can be on strengthening the quads.

As for "less stressful knee exercises", you're looking at alot of floor variations:
- glute bridges (double and single leg)
- prone glute
- prone hyper
- supine hamstring iso (various degrees of knee flexion, just holding position, hits hams hard)
- supine hip extensions (stiff legged, feet on box)

As for weighted exercises that don't put much stress on the patella, you're looking at:
- reverse hyper
- RDL
- leg curls (standing, seated, whatever)
- POSSIBLY ghr..
- some stuff on 4-way hip machine

stretching too much can actually become a problem, if the muscles of the quads stop firing correctly, need to make sure VMO is firing good and before the VL.. floor based tke's (last 15 degrees, terminal knee extension), partner assisted, or very light tke on a leg extension can help to get that vmo firing but you definitely don't want to mess with that stress fracture.. once that stress fracture heals you'll need to build some strong/active vmo's to protect the patella.



any idea how you actually got this stress fracture? I mean is it just from jumping too much? When did you "feel" it occur? Any ideas on that?


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I need to find new ways to strengthen, without stressing my knees/legs before it's too late for me to come back from all of this.

I'll have plenty of time to start working out after the holidays as I just picked up a 2nd job (1st job is window cleaning, but that's so slow during the winter) and I'll be running my school's new campus weight room...so literally, it can be my job to work out if I want to.

I'm open to any and all suggestions. The things I'm doing right now are basically just yoga and stretching. I've heard you can lessen the stress on your knees if you're more flexible, and I can definitely use more flexibility. Also, bought and started using a foam roller per Lance's suggestions on VF's forum; still getting used to that. Any help is much appreciated.

i switched from VF over here. It is alot more active and got a great sense of humor, you'll fit in bro

Thanks dude. Did you end up getting banned again from VF? haha.

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You make the journal and put this in it. http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/
click make new topic
make your journal name(you'll be posting in this your workouts and daily achievements..ect.)
post this

thanks bmully but pretty sure "jas" is a lost cause.. could be wrong but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh doubt it. ;d

pc

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This makes it easier to fill out, paste into the journal:

AGE: 18

HEIGHT: 5 11

WEIGHT: 65 kg

SLEEP SCHEDULE: 11pm to 8 am

BODY TYPE: skinny and ahlectic

GOALS: i wanna increase my vertical upto 45 and sprint time in 10+

CURRENT ABILITY: i can grabe the ring and 12.4 in 100 m

INJURY HISTORY: none

TRAINING HISTORY & ACHIEVEMENTS: none.....

CURRENT ACTIVITY LEVEL AND/OR TRAINING PROGRAM: traning really hard in gym ..... and at track and also doing plyo

BRIEF OVERVIEW OF CURRENT DIET: i eat banana and protein on regular basis

IMPORTANT ACTIVITIES: tutions

why are people so lazy with this questionnaire? I mean, training history & achievements, "none", are you kidding me.. lol

sad.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello guys
« on: December 19, 2010, 04:52:01 pm »
Are you sure you only jump 8 inches, the lowest vert i've ever seen was from a 15 year old kid who was around 100-150 lb overweight and goofy as hell, he jumped 4 inches when I was interning at perfect-competition.. Ironically, he had a jersey with the number "4" on it..



Wow man you are good :o

wut? what am i good at? im confused




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CURRENT ACTIVITY LEVEL AND/OR TRAINING PROGRAM: Medium level

what does that mean, elaborate lol..




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Dude i want to know something.Is airalert2 good for me?

nope, you're disqualified from doing air alert because you mentioned that you are "fat", air alert + fat = not a good combo.



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I heard that it is good but it can destroy my muscles  too.I don`t know what to belive 8)

it destroys joints & tendons more than muscles.





Let's be serious though, you're not really looking for REAL help, you just want some quick answers.. if you want some REAL help, fill out that questionnaire with more detail and post it in the progress journals section.

peace homie.

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pwnd city and, that's one amazing fountain.. :D

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News, Announcements, & Suggestions / Re: Emoticon Suggestions
« on: December 19, 2010, 04:36:10 pm »

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