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I just brace my stomach as hard as I can after holding in a big breadth.  I just create as much tension as possible.  I don't think about the direction of anything.  Thats just me though, maybe other people do it differently.  All I care about is feeling as tight as possible. 

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^^^That still makes complete sense and he is saying it better than me.  The only difference is he is talking about breathing while doing it.  But that is exactly what I was talking about.  I just brace; I don't think about my bellybutton though.

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^^No, I'm definitely not a hollower, I'm a bracer.  Honestly, the way I used the term and the way I have heard it used I just think bracing is contracting your abs as hard as possible.  I say this because even after contracting you can draw your belly button in or out; so, I think bracing is something separate.  When I say brace I literally mean to tighten the abs as hard as possible and hold them there.  I would forget about  drawing the belly button in, because all that does is move the tightness you created upwards and no not where you need it; in your lower back. 

Edit.   http://www.bigbackpain.com/abdominal-bracing-hollowing.html

If you look there you will see that bracing has nothing to do with pushing in or pulling out the stomach.  It is just bracing like your about to get hit in the stomach.

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I'm not going to argue with anyone (everyone does what they thinks works for them) but what I personally do since you asked us is fill up my belly with as much air as possible and then brace the abs as hard as I can.  Obviously when you brace your clenching and bringing them in.  I wouldn't call it pushing out.  I mean, that once as much air is in there as possible you try and squeeze the shit out of that air against the inside of your spine using your abs.  I'm not saying that I know all the science behind this, but this has definitely been the most effective thing for me.  My core becomes hard like a rock and I don't lose any force transfer from my legs up.  Also I definitely feel that doing it this way helps with keeping my lower back straight.  I can literally feel the air that I have sucked in being compressed up against my spine and securing it when I squeeze my abs.  This is how belts work; you fill your belly up with air and push out against the belt and it braces your spine; so, I'm not sure what exactly hollowing the abs would do that is beneficial, you would have less air to use to brace the spine. 

And I'm not sure that Starett advocates for hollow abs in his book.  I would have to check again when I got home, but I'm pretty sure one of his first principles about getting the spine in alignment is bracing the abs after filling them up and clenching the glutes to hold the pelvies in alignment; I could be wrong though.  Also, check out videos of many of the top weighlifters of all times...before they start their pull for their lifts so many of them suck in a deep breadth. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: July 17, 2013, 10:01:43 pm »
Fair enough.  Thanks for the response and good luck with the 475 lbs!

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Dude theres nothing to beat yourself up about.  Family is way more important than training; not even in the same universe of importance.  I hope ur brother is ok and gets better man. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: July 16, 2013, 10:41:53 pm »
Hey KF, I know this may be a stupid question...but you have obviously been able to squat for a very long time with some heavy weights and stay healthy.  Other than proper form, is there anything that you do in particular that you think helps you out? Like do you stretch, do other leg exercises like GHR's etc.? 

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Nice PR on the FS entropy! Glad you found the response helpful; hopefully you find something in there that helps you. 

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Thanks for the warning, will heed it. Can you tell me what goes thru your head when you're going into the rep? Talk/walk me thru it if possible. My depth for FS is good, my depth for BS is not haha, it's just below parallel, which is actually ok with me, because I do my fs's deep so hopefully i'm not missing out on much there. I actually prefer it this way because it places the brunt of the work onto my quads which is what I need.


Honestly, I don't think that my squat form is anything amazing but this is what I do: I don't really think about my depth.  I just go as far down as I can while maintaining a neutral spine; being safe is always the most important thing for me.  If my flexibility increases over time I can go lower.  Anyway, as far as my mental process, I really try to keep it simple.  On my first warm-up reps I don't do anything explosively at all.  I just use them to try and achieve my desired range of motion, so I go pretty slow.  Once, I'm feeling pretty good with really light weight (obviously this depends on the individual), then I start doing the reps a little more explosively.  As far as cues....all I'm ever worried about is having my back straight.  If my back is straight and I'm as upright as possible I have no fear to explode and really go to work in the squat, so both my cues are centered around that.  THe first thing I do is to get my hands as close as possible without discomfort in my elbows...this makes my upperback really tight and that in turn makes my chest pop out.  Also, I engage my lats by pulling my elbows down really hard and trying to crush the bar (I think some people like the elbows up and back, but that doesn't work for me).  The other cue that helps me is something Lance said in my journal.  He said to use the hip flexors to pull yourself into the squat.  This second cue helps me with my lumbar spine.  When I engage the hip flexors in this way it really helps me keep the back straight.  I think that is why you think my squats are so concentric driven, because all I'm really thinking about is my back.  So, when I descending I'm just thinking about the 2 things above: (1) Upperback tight, pull down elbows; (2) Pull myself down with hipflexors to keep lower back tight.  Once I hit my depth and I have done these things, I feel so tight and wound up like a coil, that I just explode out of the hole.  IDK, thats the only way I can describe it.  At the bottom of the squat everything is really tightly contracted...my upperback, my lower back, my quads, my glutes....It kind of makes me feel like a spring, and as long as my back is straight I can destroy the weight.  Idk, if any of this helps you, but thats usually what I think.  Oooo, and obviously the knees need to be pushed out, but I don't really think about this as much because it is usually not a problem (every once in a while it will creep into my form though so I stay conscious of it).

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 12, 2013, 09:54:56 am »
Because I'm Greek!! Lol.  Just didn't realize you were greek until now.  I noticed the hoop in your profile pick and for some reason it just looked like the parks in Greece (even though I'm sure the rest of Europe has hoops like that) so I clicked on your profile name and saw you were from Greece. 


@Raptor: Yea, some greeks have a problem with that sound because there is no true equivalent to "h" in the greek language...there is only a "x" which is the closest sound but still different very different.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 11, 2013, 03:48:18 pm »
Greek Power!!! Me ti niki!

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BS notes:
Lance talks about exploding the bar up even on submax sets. I am working on that, because I think with backsquat I can make my quads stronger by focusing on getting a strong quad driven cocentric, kind of like atzo's squats. It will help my front squat as well as other athletic activities like sprinting and jumping.

Pushing both my squats up aggressively back into PR territory, 3x a week, otherwise weds is usually a light/low vol day, but for the next few weeks it will be a normal progression.

Thanks for the words man.  One tip though...and this may be broscience so take it with a grain of salt...With the powerful concentric, watch the lower back in the beginning.  I think that is how I got hurt back in April.  Your legs are plenty strong, but your back may not be ready to brace an explosive move out of the whole, so maybe ease into the explosive concentric.  Either way, good luck man,I'm sure you will get it.  And btw, your depth isn't jus good its ATG, which is awesome. 

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Benefits of Trap-Bar Deadlift
« on: June 24, 2013, 05:22:38 pm »
@ Lance: Thanks for the advice.  I'm still thinking about buying it; but, I can definitely see what your saying.  Maybe I will get it and use it as a deadlift replacement instead of a squat replacement.  Also, I like the idea of using it for jumps.  Wish there was more accounts of being using it as a main lift, curious to see how it could work there.  Maybe I'll start one lol. 

@ Kingfish: I see....seems like from your experience trap bar is a better upperbody tool than lowerbody lol....can't see how longer wingspan and bigger traps would hurt anything.   But I see what your saying, you don't think it load the legs enough becuase you need to use your arms.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Benefits of Trap-Bar Deadlift
« on: June 20, 2013, 12:22:16 pm »
Thanks for the suggestion man, but I already have bands.  I have rubberbanditz which are basically the same as you said.  I have "Medium" [20 - 35 lbs. (9 - 16 kg) Resistance], "Heavy" [30 - 50 lbs. (14 - 23 kg) Resistance], Robust [40 - 80 lbs. (18 - 36 kg) "Resistance"].  I have considered getting the heavier ones but can't think right now in my training what I would use them for (the next levels are 50-120 lbs, 70-180 lbs, 80-200 lbs...ranging from $26-$50). 

Also, I'm building a reverse hyper this week, so I'm going to need some cash for that.  I have most of the material in scrap but I need to buy the pips (unless my uncle who is a plumber has enough scrap). 

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Benefits of Trap-Bar Deadlift
« on: June 20, 2013, 12:19:12 am »
It costs $120, but I have like $80 credit...so its only $40 out of pocket.

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