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He also has the "short Achilles" feature that we start to see again and again in good athletes (think Stefan Holm).

What do you mean? I thought it was the other way around?

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: December 11, 2013, 08:00:19 pm »
Lol it's the height difference, bone length, etc. that exaggerates the difference.

Look at this photo here. http://www.businessinsider.com/yao-ming-jj-watt-take-picture-2013-2

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: December 09, 2013, 11:23:30 pm »
Smith machines are great for explosive bench throws

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Yeah, I have that problem too and I can do the 1-2 much better on outdoor courts.

LBSS, what's your vert at right now compared to your all time PR? And how's your strength now compared to then? Just curious.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 05, 2013, 12:41:16 pm »
^Correct! To be fair with toddday my last post could be misread easily. I was referring to noobs, that is the key. LBSS is a guy that has already strength trained for years to reach 2*BW, he was not part of my argument. If i may rephrase it, it would be "You need to have a good strength foundation before starting to worry about ways to express it better".
Yeah, if i ever say that you don't need to jump when trying to improve jumping, please ban me from this site!  :P

Vag, are you saying that people who aren't strong yet shouldn't do any power exercises (jump squats or reactive squats or depth jumps) and just focus on squatting and jumping? I'm doing squatting, power exercises, and lots of jumping right now, and I'm not that strong yet.

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What about practicing max effort jumping like how sprinters practice their sprints. If you can do two sessions a day, wouldn't max effort jumping in morning and weightlifting at night be better than combining them into one workout?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 03, 2013, 07:55:19 pm »
I looked through some old videos. RutgersDunker doesn't seem that springy? He seems to get up extremely high with all that strength and power. Same with adarqui and Kingfish. RutgersDunker looks a lot smoother and more "athletic" though.

This is another guy that gets up with pure strength. He does squat 3x bodyweight at 5'7 though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6ZnghUUKOw

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 03, 2013, 05:18:09 pm »
no it's not based on jump height, although springy people tend to jump higher. kingfish jumps 40" but looks slow as fuck, he's just very powerful. same for chris hickson when he was around. dreyth, but less so. some people are naturally springy and others aren't, a lot is based on genetic things like body structure, tendon length, and so on. people like you and me have a lower ceiling than people like, uh, actually most of the gifted two-leg jumpers on here are gone (taylorhorton, rip, rutgersdunker). chris m and matt a come to mind, i guess. but none of those guys has the springs that taylorhorton had, or certainly that rutgersdunker has. that dude is an animal.

but we can definitely improve movement efficiency, grace, speed, and power. no doubt about it. adarq went from touching rim to dunking off one leg, which is truly awesome and frankly a big part of why i'm still going at this.

will just make it that much more satisfying when we finally do throw down.  :ibjumping:

Does being quick (being able to change directions extremely fast, able to maneuver short distances extremely quickly) have anything to do with springiness? I'm thinking springiness is just looking athletic.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 03, 2013, 01:17:49 pm »
having seen a short clip of you jumping, i doubt that you do get 4" more from a full run up than a three-step run up. or if you do, you're doing the three-step wrong. you look like me, medium-efficient and medium-fast, better than entropy (though we're short and so can't dunk) or vag but not exactly smooth or springy or fast. you jump maybe an inch higher than i do right now.

try to work your way out from a drop-step one day and see if you really do get any benefit from the steps you take before the final two or three.


Yea, I'm still trying to improve my run up. I have a much faster run up when I'm not thinking too hard about it. Is springiness a quality that can be learned? Or is it just based on how high you jump? Ex: A person with a over a 40'' vert will always look springy.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 03, 2013, 12:30:43 pm »
one thing t0ddday told me about when we trained together a couple months back was "earning" the steps. so for high jumpers, they're only allowed to take a run-up out to the number of steps where they get diminishing returns. if you don't jump any higher from two steps than one, you only get two. when your two-step jump is better than your one-step jump, you get three, and so on. that's what i've been doing on the court recently, even adjusting by day: some days i'm good out to three and others not. but it allows you to practice being as explosive and fast as possible out to the distance where your body and brain can handle it. worth a shot.

Interesting. What's the deal if my running jump is at least 4+ greater than my three step jump or drop step jump?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: December 03, 2013, 01:24:23 am »
Hey man, what are your goals right now? Just maintain that squat?

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Out of curiosity, what is the Iso Extension Stim? The video doesn't work.

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You should've gotten on creatine a while ago! It's quite cheap and beneficial.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Derrick Rose's injury
« on: November 24, 2013, 06:37:45 pm »
I don't know if he can mentally come back from this. He already took more than a year off for his left knee, and ten games later, a serious right knee injury occurs.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: November 24, 2013, 05:13:24 pm »
No sources either, but when I do it with light weights, I feel it in quads more. Also, they're pro lifters/ olympic lifters, and they video themselves, so I'm pretty sure they're aware of it.

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