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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2865 on: May 04, 2016, 07:32:37 am »
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There you go always reality checking me bro! :P
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2866 on: May 04, 2016, 07:46:29 am »
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BS 6x127.5(LPR)
Push Press 6x50, 6x60, 6x67.5(PR), 8x62.5(PR), 9x60(PR)

BW: 178.5 (LPR)

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Well damn, that PR came out of nowhere. I almost squatted 140kg but decided against it and put the bar back.  Who gives a fuck about a sub 1.8 ratio .. meaningless and it wuda been hard af too. Gonna hit up the court and do some bounds and dunks instaed. Will tape!

went to the court and competition have restarted so there was no courts available on both stadiums. Watched a game. Did some dunks between games (3 rvj, 3 svj). By the time i got back, the lights were off at hte park. So no bounds either. Oh well. Gives my ankle a bit more rest. It's still not 100% yet.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2867 on: May 04, 2016, 08:29:43 am »
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Anoda bad workout. I give up lol

wait three days...

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Well damn, that PR came out of nowhere. I almost squatted 140kg but decided against it and put the bar back.  Who gives a fuck about a sub 1.8 ratio .. meaningless and it wuda been hard af too. Gonna hit up the court and do some bounds and dunks instaed. Will tape!

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2868 on: May 05, 2016, 03:00:42 am »
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Interesting DOMS. Pretty decent doms in my glutes! All i did was 6 reps of a heavy backsquat. There you go. 
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2869 on: May 05, 2016, 10:05:26 am »
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Shud i try to find a shooting coach while in the states? I'm feeling pretty insecure to even bother someone with my awful hot mess of a technique. not to put a fine point on it, but it's not the technique that's worrying but just my general lack of athleticism / sportsmanlike ability for somoene who would have dealt with players far far far far better.  to add im actualy in a slump atm .. low esteem etc .. so it's not just a trivial thing .. stuff like this seems bigger than it should be .. anyway this is prob the wrong place for it
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2870 on: May 05, 2016, 10:59:43 am »
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Shud i try to find a shooting coach while in the states? I'm feeling pretty insecure to even bother someone with my awful hot mess of a technique. not to put a fine point on it, but it's not the technique that's worrying but just my general lack of athleticism / sportsmanlike ability for somoene who would have dealt with players far far far far better.  to add im actualy in a slump atm .. low esteem etc .. so it's not just a trivial thing .. stuff like this seems bigger than it should be .. anyway this is prob the wrong place for it

Stop.  Get out your head.  Best shooting coach I know is in Nyc, you gonna go there? I can refer you.

Your lack of athleticism is not a problem for a coach... Your coachability might be, but your lack of ability is what a coach looks for, your actually an ideal candidate. 

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2871 on: May 05, 2016, 12:30:14 pm »
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I'm on a bit of a roll with eating clean. Hoping to continue it for the next 5 wks. If i can get through May while adding say 2.5kg to my backsquat and getting bodyweight under 80kg I'll be really happy. And ofcourse get better at bounds and stuff which will be my staple form of exercise while abroad.

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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vErDL8xuF3Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vErDL8xuF3Q</a>

Went to shoot around. I love how if i take N freethrows, i'll find N+1 different ways to shoot them. Consistency is lacking but I think that's predominantly a strength thing, fatigue sets in, and form fluctuates erratically.

Shud i try to find a shooting coach while in the states? I'm feeling pretty insecure to even bother someone with my awful hot mess of a technique. not to put a fine point on it, but it's not the technique that's worrying but just my general lack of athleticism / sportsmanlike ability for somoene who would have dealt with players far far far far better.  to add im actualy in a slump atm .. low esteem etc .. so it's not just a trivial thing .. stuff like this seems bigger than it should be .. anyway this is prob the wrong place for it

Stop.  Get out your head.  Best shooting coach I know is in Nyc, you gonna go there? I can refer you.

Your lack of athleticism is not a problem for a coach... Your coachability might be, but your lack of ability is what a coach looks for, your actually an ideal candidate. 

Not NYC this time .. mainly the west coast.  But that sounds good! 'll def ask you to refer me if i make my way to NYC some time. Probably my next trip whenever that will be..!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2872 on: May 06, 2016, 02:34:10 am »
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Here a coach would take only elite athletes to train. Why bother with people that don't have a great genetic ceiling (however that is being described by the coach - they all look for long legs, young age, etc). This for elite level coaching.

Otherwise, to take your money and say "ok, do 2 laps and 10 pushups and puke" - that can be done by pretty much everybody. I'm tired of "coaches", they're such fucking idiots.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2873 on: May 06, 2016, 06:37:36 am »
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BS 6x110
JS 8x150, 8x100, 8x70
DJ 2x6x20"

Bounds (2x20m for speed, 2x20m for height, 3x9m for distance)
Med ball throw x 5

BW: 179 (dafuk)

Notes:
Thinking of hitting up the court to do some dunks. i may try the depth jump to dunks that adarqui rx .. will see .. may not get court space to do anything. Also im taking to account t0ddday's comments in acoles log bout broad jumps on hardwood as a bad idea? i think i agree, my knees didnt like that whole week after. And it's been raining, so the park is prob out too.

Honestly not sure why i bother. Dunks were so mediocre .. couldnt jump for shit.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2874 on: May 07, 2016, 08:17:13 am »
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DOM report: calves status destroyed! L knee bugging.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2875 on: May 07, 2016, 09:12:56 am »
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Looked over the tape of yesterdays shooting. I noticed 2 main things, 1)i shoot  the ball entirely from the wrist/arms and 2)with no hip involvement. So if i was a better shooter i'd be more hip and less wrist, this would make me a better player because 1 is affected easily by fatigue whereas 2 would not be. So i can improve my shooting considerably by .......... being ......... more....... hip ...... dominant.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2876 on: May 07, 2016, 09:36:10 pm »
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Looked over the tape of yesterdays shooting. I noticed 2 main things, 1)i shoot  the ball entirely from the wrist/arms and 2)with no hip involvement. So if i was a better shooter i'd be more hip and less wrist, this would make me a better player because 1 is affected easily by fatigue whereas 2 would not be. So i can improve my shooting considerably by .......... being ......... more....... hip ...... dominant.

Hips should really not be involved in shooting action. Depends on shot but if you hop or 1,2 into shot it's a little knee bend with minimal hip involvement.



Edit- I'm working on my shooting and I've found the game changers to be shooting off the index finger, keeping the follow through high and keeping the off hand high too. 
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2877 on: May 08, 2016, 01:52:05 am »
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There is some hip action there bro, look at the angle. It's kinda why i do heavy jump squats, similar angles. Only problem is i havent learnt to harness that "strength" for shooting (or jumping and running for that matter) .. once i do, it will be easy. The prob with using that for shooting i find is the shots come off too strong, cos i haven't learnt to do less with the arms/wrists. Once i figure out how to make the release softer while being powered mainly by hips my shot will be silky smooth. Probably. I dont know.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2878 on: May 08, 2016, 02:47:27 am »
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Yeah idk how using more hips will help. Most top shooters have a slight lean or fade on their shot which makes involving the hips harder.

Also, probably not the best picture to illustrate the idea. Looks like he's in transition and has pulled up hence the hip angle.

You don't need to do heavy jump squats for shooting. Name 1 top shooter who has tremendous leg strength. Curry? Nash? Nowitzki? Kobe? I think you're looking in the wrong areas.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2879 on: May 08, 2016, 03:07:14 am »
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lmao . im nto suggesting turning a jumpshot into an ATG squat. I mean getting most of the contrib from closing the hip angle rather than upper body
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