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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2895 on: May 08, 2016, 08:00:34 am »
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Also the other thing to keep in mind besides practice is that shooting (just like any other skill in life) also comes down to innate ability. Look at golf and somebody like Tiger Woods. He started out playing when he was very young, but if you took 10,000 people and they all practiced exactly the same amount of times as Tiger Woods at the same age etc. and did everything he did there would be an extreme amount of variation in the sample group. Look at Shaq and his free throws as an example. Being a professional player and having world class coaches and all the resources that come along with it he still struggled with his free throws but he did improve. Basketball is a fairly simple game. Work to your strengths and just keep practicing your shooting. Getting all wound up about  shooting mechanics and technique is failing to see the forest for the trees.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2896 on: May 08, 2016, 01:31:23 pm »
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lets not introduce another variable into this analysis lol. fat isn't been considered at the moment. btw the object isnt to accelerate the basketball as much as possible. they talk about a soft release, high arc, all those things are more important in an accurate shot. I did read a book on this by the way..

Lol.  First of all your the one who argued that your body type or build suggested that you shoot a certain way which doesn't make sense.

Second that is EXACTLY my point.  More hip drive will allow you to accelerate the ball as much as possible which isn't that goal.  You have to understand what makes the hips so great.  Powerful glutes, rope like tendons, a ball and socket joint to express power in many planes, stored forced and extremely powerful contraction allows a violent explosive pop of the body...  Great for rebounding, your euro step, tackling a football player, dunking on somebody.... But not for shooting! 

You need to become more hip dominant.  But not because it's going to make you a better shooter...  The hips and fine motor control are not friends.  You want to use your wrists, your arms, a soft jump with the knee extensors.   Don't make this even harder than it is! 

Btw I promise steph curry could stand anywhere in the half court and shoot a flat footed shoot where his lower body has zero movement and make 70%.  I have seen Kobe do this drill as well as Kyrie Irving and phill pressey.    That's the bulk of why they are better at shooting than you.  They can coordinate their hands and arms to shoot far more accurate than you.  If you practice more you will become better.  When are u in LA?   I'm out of town a bit this were but if you are here for awhile we can link up to train.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2897 on: May 27, 2016, 12:33:51 pm »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2898 on: May 28, 2016, 10:10:39 pm »
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T0ddday did he ever get onto you about training over in LA?

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2899 on: May 29, 2016, 10:20:45 am »
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T0ddday did he ever get onto you about training over in LA?

No I never heard from the man

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2900 on: June 01, 2016, 07:51:32 pm »
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Hi guys sorry i forgot my password but later remembered i also have google chrome on my phone which saves passwords across devices

Ive trained twice since coming here lol. Have got soft and weak and cant jump much but still look like i am kinda in shape

Im in socal atm.. will insta you todday if we can meet before i leave
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2901 on: June 07, 2016, 01:44:46 am »
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Back from my trip! What an incredible 4 weeks which included LA, San Franciso, Las Vegas, San Diego and last but not least, Yosemite!

 I wish I could have eaten better and trained more but these things are hard to do while travelling. Squatted twice, did not bench at all, balled twice and that's about it lol. Eating out every day for 30 days, it's hard to get enough protein .. im pretty soft now .. as i mentioned above. I need to get back in shape.

Since my gym gains are all but vanished, im open to trying out things in training i wudnt otherwise, esp while rebuilding back to where I was before May. Prob have a good 3 months ahead of me before i'm in PR territory. Maybe more, that sucks but whatever.

To recap -- I can't believe i went to the game at Oracle Arena where GSW came back from 3-1 down to win an incredible WCF in 7. I was there! If KD hits a 3, and Westbrook has a better shooting night I could have seen OKC go thru to the finals. Incredible watching KD drop 40 points. He did everything he could have but GSW just played better as a team. They fully deserve to win the ring this year.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2902 on: June 07, 2016, 02:16:07 am »
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I just wanted to make a note in passing, my 2nd time playing basketball in the states was fun. It was at CSUN, a 5v5 full court pickup game. Had a complete game of passing the ball for assists, rebounds and playing defence (game saving block!). Got props after which was really gratifying!  i know it's a small sample size but i enjoy the way the game is played there. It's a lot more finesse based than brute force (in oz).  It really sucked that i cudnt make friends and keep playing regularly with those guys but what can you do. I'm missing it already.

I also worked on my shooting a bit and i think i have improved on that front too. Maybe just being around good shooters, something rubs off on you? Idk. Not to say we have bad shooters here, im ny local rec league we have decent shooters too .. idk, hard to say.

oh and i cud barely dunk but i landed one between games and one guy said to me "if you could continue not doing that, it would be great" .. lol. american wit :) I thought how well that hit home cause ive almost never dunked in a game.  But for the most part i didn't see much riposte.. maybe it's the way i come across but i dont get/give easy banter .. i need to figure out why because respect and recognition is nice but i want to beocme a more well rounded person in general


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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2903 on: June 07, 2016, 02:18:39 am »
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Back from my trip! What an incredible 4 weeks which included LA, San Franciso, Las Vegas, San Diego and last but not least, Yosemite!

SICK!

man you didn't hit up venice beach and check out some dunkers?

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I wish I could have eaten better and trained more but these things are hard to do while travelling. Squatted twice, did not bench at all, balled twice and that's about it lol. Eating out every day for 30 days, it's hard to get enough protein .. im pretty soft now .. as i mentioned above. I need to get back in shape.

Since my gym gains are all but vanished, im open to trying out things in training i wudnt otherwise, esp while rebuilding back to where I was before May. Prob have a good 3 months ahead of me before i'm in PR territory. Maybe more, that sucks but whatever.

i seriously doubt they've vanished.. once you get back on track you'll surprise yourself. 30 days is only ~2 weeks after a 2 week deload, look at it that way..  :ninja:



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To recap -- I can't believe i went to the game at Oracle Arena where GSW came back from 3-1 down to win an incredible WCF in 7. I was there! If KD hits a 3, and Westbrook has a better shooting night I could have seen OKC go thru to the finals. Incredible watching KD drop 40 points. He did everything he could have but GSW just played better as a team. They fully deserve to win the ring this year.

if there was one to go to, that could be it.. the game that started the historic run.

really cool man.. glad GSW won tho :F

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2904 on: June 07, 2016, 02:29:11 am »
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Hey andrew! I did go to Venice but i didnt see any dunkers :( I played a quick pickup game which was LOL bad.. selfish team mates and bad shooting and i noped out after around 10 mins. Was funny tho. I got someone to take a video on my phone of me dunking in jeans, teh commentary makes it awesome but nothing special otherwise, i wish i was in better shape and closer to PR territory when i balled there but it was more like the opposite!

Will see how long it takes me to get back on track .. im just daunted by the long road ahead :/
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2905 on: June 07, 2016, 10:09:52 am »
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Hey andrew! I did go to Venice but i didnt see any dunkers :( I played a quick pickup game which was LOL bad.. selfish team mates and bad shooting and i noped out after around 10 mins. Was funny tho. I got someone to take a video on my phone of me dunking in jeans, teh commentary makes it awesome but nothing special otherwise, i wish i was in better shape and closer to PR territory when i balled there but it was more like the opposite!

Will see how long it takes me to get back on track .. im just daunted by the long road ahead :/

Bro, how come you never hit me up?  I could have gotten you into a lot better basketball than Northridge hooping!  Is that an oz thing?  Acole is claiming he is gonna swing through LA - is that actually unlikely?

To all who ask about Venice beach...  It's unfortunately not really a thing.  The court is immortalized because of "white men can't jump" and maybe it was once the spot but I can promise you for the last ten years that Venice beach is not somewhere you go to play basketball.   The rims seem a bit low so you can do fun dunks in an iconic location but when people are laying basketball it's the weird almalgam of drug addicts, tourists, and kids playing terrible pickup...  Honestly there isn't much good outdoor basketball in LA - I can think of maybe two courts that are alright but for the most part outdoor hoop is a thing of the past which really sucks...  I have zero complaints about life in LA and actually feel that everyone should live here for at least a bit, if for no other reason than strictly for the weather, women and the weed - and you only gotta like two of three...  However the city gets a bad rap from visitors because it's not an easy place to visit.  The assumed spots like Venice beach for basketball and Hollywood for nightlife often get real disappointing... Really takes a few years to learn the city but once you do it's heaven - one that I'll probably have to leave but will be kicking and screaming on my way out...  Still I'm welcoming visitors before I do!

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2906 on: June 07, 2016, 10:02:55 pm »
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Bro, how come you never hit me up?  I could have gotten you into a lot better basketball than Northridge hooping!  Is that an oz thing?  Acole is claiming he is gonna swing through LA - is that actually unlikely?


I won't leave you hanging mate! Haha..I might not have as much training under the belt as I would have liked, but I'd still love to come check out your training centre and actually see a vertec in real life  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2907 on: June 07, 2016, 10:42:58 pm »
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Bro, how come you never hit me up?  I could have gotten you into a lot better basketball than Northridge hooping!  Is that an oz thing?  Acole is claiming he is gonna swing through LA - is that actually unlikely?


I won't leave you hanging mate! Haha..I might not have as much training under the belt as I would have liked, but I'd still love to come check out your training centre and actually see a vertec in real life  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

damn.. you're going to love the vertec. still probably the most fun testing/training tool i've ever used. dammit I just need to hit that next rung@#$@!$

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2908 on: June 09, 2016, 04:59:12 am »
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Restarted training .. did not want to, tried to put it off but i forced myself to go thru the motions. So far so  good though. I'm trying somethign different this time around. Laying off the supplements (creatine, caffeine, etc). Using the old bar. Will try to get my work cap up while im rebuilding strength and mass. I also picked up a pair of blue rehband knee sleeves. Will use all these extras after I get to a decent place, maybe a 6x130kg then add in creatine, caffeine, etc. I didnt even using lifting shoes. Need to focus on technique too. PR patience + technique ->> big squat gains later down the line.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2909 on: June 12, 2016, 12:01:19 am »
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I just didn't have the opportunity to train properly bro, that i thought it would be a waste of time to bother you with my out of shape ass after a month of eating badly and not training. I'm insecure bout my athletic ability as it, even if i was in a PR place i'd still have reservations! But i also think my next trip wont be so regimented, i went with friends and family this time and didn't have any alone time .. which made it hard to plan to meet my friends and hang out. But now i want to get in shape and make my next trip back within 6 months .. and a priority of that will be in being in decent condition so you can help me go to the next level which ive never been able to. I want to be athletic enough to land windmills, move efficiently and i can't do that without your expertise.

Guys my life since coming back home has been crazy. I went from being sad and lonely to getting to know 2 girls, one i legit wanna marry, she's smart and cute and falling for her and another who is 23 year old and so hot and she's driving me crazy with the sexual tension btw us.   I feel like i have to choose btw heart and lust and it's an impossible choice! I'm torn. That trip changed my life .. and im so hungry for life now .. i wanna PR all areas of life, personal, career, relationships etc.

I need a program for training out of this slump .. not interested in my usual thing ive always done. Open to new ideas. I want to incoorporate lifting and athletic activity like running and jumping but with a stronger emphasis on teh latter than in the past.
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