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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3030 on: July 11, 2016, 09:03:20 am »
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i say this as the most squat-obsessed wannabe dunker in the history of this forum: fuck squatting. do what mutumb000 said. you can still do it, but stop trying to push your numbers on it. you're strong enough to get up just fine.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3031 on: July 11, 2016, 11:43:41 pm »
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^lol. Fair enough. I'm convinced. I went to shoot around yesterday even though i decided it was going to be a rest day, it only extended to skipping lifting, not basketball. I hate how i have to rediscover how to shoot every time i get on the court. It's like that movie, 50 first dates, i go through the motions until eventually it clicks, but by then fatigue has set in and i can't continue for very long anyway. kinda annoying..

bw is stabilised at 80kg btw.. which i was hoping wud be closer too 79kg once i came off the diet. so yeah will keep posting that and make sure it stays at or below 80kg i guess
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3032 on: July 12, 2016, 12:48:54 am »
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How often do you play/practice/etc cause I feel exactly the same way. I play once a week and may get another shoot around in if I'm lucky. Every time I play I get some rhythm by the end of the session and then I start all over again next time.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3033 on: July 12, 2016, 03:23:53 am »
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Pretty often bro, i balled sunday, tuesday, thursday, sunday and then yesterday. It just takes me some time to find the rhythm and once i do it's all swishes but until then i can't get anything going .. frustrating.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3034 on: July 12, 2016, 03:34:08 am »
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BS 6x110(LPR lol), 4x120(LPR!), 2x125(LPR), 2x122.5
BP 2x6x80 (LPR), 5Fx80
bball ~ 2hrs (a few dunks but mostly jumpers)

BW: 80kg  / 176.4lb

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On a day when 70kg warmups were hard/heavy .. i didn't wanna be a pussy about this ..and forced some RMish local PRs. I had no idea what reps or weights to attempt .. but i knew 6x3x120kg wasnt in the cards. I'm ok with this. Next time i'll progress it a little and then some more the following session.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3035 on: July 12, 2016, 11:13:57 am »
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I shoot better on RHS of the rim .. even though i'm left handed. This actually is new cos i think it used to be the other way around. So something has changed. I can't figure out what. but im better off specialising on one side and mastering it?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3036 on: July 12, 2016, 11:44:47 am »
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what you are best at, without a doubt, is overthinking your own weaknesses.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3037 on: July 12, 2016, 07:08:45 pm »
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Pretty often bro, i balled sunday, tuesday, thursday, sunday and then yesterday. It just takes me some time to find the rhythm and once i do it's all swishes but until then i can't get anything going .. frustrating.

Haha ok I've got nothing for you then. Only the boring stuff like doing 1 hand set shots to begin your practice.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3038 on: July 12, 2016, 07:11:09 pm »
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I shoot better on RHS of the rim .. even though i'm left handed. This actually is new cos i think it used to be the other way around. So something has changed. I can't figure out what. but im better off specialising on one side and mastering it?

I'd say this would be common. I'm a better shooter from the LHS of the rim and I'm right handed.

Go to your strengths if you can but you don't want to be unable to or not confident enough to shoot from the LHS so work on both.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3039 on: July 12, 2016, 07:16:21 pm »
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what you are best at, without a doubt, is overthinking your own weaknesses.

Lol.

Pretty true.  Although ironically you might be overthinking and under thinking at the same time which is even more dangerous... 

We have tested all level of players.. And if you do catch and shoot practice from anywhere where you other doesn't matter for accuracy...  The only exceptions is if you are close enough to bank off glass or if your "distance" is NBA three and then corner threes are a lot closer...

What does affect accuracy is dribbling and defense.  For myself if I am passed the ball or in a game have time to pull up do a dribble with my left hand while I step with left then right foot and pull up (referred to as a dribble 1-2 by shooting coaches) then I'm a lot more accurate... Now in a game if I'm moving toward my right I can do this but not the other way... Switch the footwork and it gets hard...

Point is - it's footwork not placement that matters...

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3040 on: July 12, 2016, 07:28:45 pm »
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Set shots are something i cue myself to avoid at all costs. . I have a tendency to turn game shots into set shots and come up short lol

When you say lhs or rhs doesn't matter in catch and shoot is that because a good shooter can adjust to either side not that the mechanics are identical.  Like i have two different feels and techniques depending on which side.  Have to consciously bring the ball closer to my head on rhs wing 3pt shot
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3041 on: July 12, 2016, 07:30:01 pm »
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Btw is all the 3pt shooting possibly making my glutes sore? !
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3042 on: July 12, 2016, 08:34:30 pm »
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When you say lhs or rhs doesn't matter in catch and shoot is that because a good shooter can adjust to either side not that the mechanics are identical.  Like i have two different feels and techniques depending on which side.  Have to consciously bring the ball closer to my head on rhs wing 3pt shot

Yep. Catch and shoot should be identical. The mechanics are exactly the same and should not change depending on the side.

 
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3043 on: July 12, 2016, 08:40:04 pm »
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When you say lhs or rhs doesn't matter in catch and shoot is that because a good shooter can adjust to either side not that the mechanics are identical.  Like i have two different feels and techniques depending on which side.  Have to consciously bring the ball closer to my head on rhs wing 3pt shot

Yep. Catch and shoot should be identical. The mechanics are exactly the same and should not change depending on the side.

But they do .. lol.. like handedness matters, i shoot with my left so it will look different coming out of the hand depending on which way the ball is going. I need to simplify things but right now i have  a long list of rules to go thru to get a shot off depending on a bunch of factors... it reminds me of when i was learning common lisp and i had this tenous mind model of how things worked and as i learned more, i added some bits but mostly removed a lot of misconceptions
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« Reply #3044 on: July 12, 2016, 08:41:09 pm »
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funny about catch and shoot .. i dont really ghet to practice it much, only in the if you get it in you get it back kinda way in shooting with other ppl. dont have someone to rebound for me ... im working on that, if i i can arrange that i will have better quality shooting sessions.
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