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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3300 on: October 04, 2016, 09:50:11 pm »
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^^ from LBSS's reply & maxent's reply to his reply, everything is cool.



trying to compare yourself to entropy is a fool's errand.

It is indeed depressing to anyone who respects your truly exceptional talents to see you of late apparently spending a great deal of time on shallow, negative polemics that contribute almost nothing in the way of real knowledge or deep truths to the subject matter they deal with. Instead of utilizing your major talents in the difficult business of discovering new viewpoints, and new understanding and techniques, you make a spectacle of yourself indulging your minor talent for innuendo and derogation. There are occasions on which it is desirable for a person with an outstanding reputation to devote some effort to pointing ·out the flaws ina significant proposal. But it is fatuous to waste time attacking one so weak that it can be demolished by high school debating tactics that avoid serious consideration of fundamental issues and deal only in hostile innuendoes, unsubstantiated arrogant opinions, and trivial nitpicking.

but wow god damn what a post. I feel like saving that and using it in case I want to make someone feel bad about a post on a forum/facebook etc. scathe factor 9001. :wowthatwasnutswtf:

that's definitely overboard when you look at it from the perspective that LBSS does respect you, your consistency, your hard work etc.. (as you basically mentioned in your last reply to him). when I read his comment I personally didn't perceive it as an insult - seemed more directed towards your tendency to flip the script, go off on tangents, focus on things that many perceive to be insignificant (certain bodyweight goals etc).. stuff like that.

FYI, it's from a 1970s exchange between John Backus and Edsger Dijkstra about some high level programming shit, which is probably why it seems really out of context:

https://medium.com/@acidflask/this-guys-arrogance-takes-your-breath-away-5b903624ca5f#.lw8wqxtdx

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3301 on: October 04, 2016, 11:02:46 pm »
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I just wanted to write down on the remarkable present situation where im able to say i squatted a PR while weighing much less (15kg/30lb less) than when I set the record broken and im not even doing them in a high state of arousal (like with stimulants, psyching up, or other such tricks which i'd rather not disclose lol). Im not supplementing creatine. Not using a belt (save for 2 sets of 2 reps per week as assistance) or any other gear (sleeves etc). And most of all, im doing it while playing my sport regularly. Im sure when i set those PRs i was all-in on lifting. So that's kinda cool. In season PRs given all of the above is pretty sweet. This is just groundwork though, the real results/achievements will happen when i use 150kg for worksets of 5x5 and eventually 6x6. That by year end would be amazing.

In addition to my last post, the following day i'm 82.6kg but looking leaner AND i feel a lot better recovered than expected considering last tuesdays 137.5kg doubles destroyed my back so much i cudnt even walk without wincing .. but since then an adaptation has taken place and im ready to tackle the rest of this cycle's milestones (6x6x130, 6x5x137.5kg in the next 2 volume sessions and and 6x2x140kg next tuesday). Def sprinting thursday too, think i can handle it now, recovery wise.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3302 on: October 05, 2016, 10:24:16 am »
+1
^^ from LBSS's reply & maxent's reply to his reply, everything is cool.



trying to compare yourself to entropy is a fool's errand.

It is indeed depressing to anyone who respects your truly exceptional talents to see you of late apparently spending a great deal of time on shallow, negative polemics that contribute almost nothing in the way of real knowledge or deep truths to the subject matter they deal with. Instead of utilizing your major talents in the difficult business of discovering new viewpoints, and new understanding and techniques, you make a spectacle of yourself indulging your minor talent for innuendo and derogation. There are occasions on which it is desirable for a person with an outstanding reputation to devote some effort to pointing ·out the flaws ina significant proposal. But it is fatuous to waste time attacking one so weak that it can be demolished by high school debating tactics that avoid serious consideration of fundamental issues and deal only in hostile innuendoes, unsubstantiated arrogant opinions, and trivial nitpicking.

but wow god damn what a post. I feel like saving that and using it in case I want to make someone feel bad about a post on a forum/facebook etc. scathe factor 9001. :wowthatwasnutswtf:

that's definitely overboard when you look at it from the perspective that LBSS does respect you, your consistency, your hard work etc.. (as you basically mentioned in your last reply to him). when I read his comment I personally didn't perceive it as an insult - seemed more directed towards your tendency to flip the script, go off on tangents, focus on things that many perceive to be insignificant (certain bodyweight goals etc).. stuff like that.

FYI, it's from a 1970s exchange between John Backus and Edsger Dijkstra about some high level programming shit, which is probably why it seems really out of context:

https://medium.com/@acidflask/this-guys-arrogance-takes-your-breath-away-5b903624ca5f#.lw8wqxtdx

lol, thanks for the link!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3303 on: October 05, 2016, 03:36:09 pm »
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^^ from LBSS's reply & maxent's reply to his reply, everything is cool.



trying to compare yourself to entropy is a fool's errand.

It is indeed depressing to anyone who respects your truly exceptional talents to see you of late apparently spending a great deal of time on shallow, negative polemics that contribute almost nothing in the way of real knowledge or deep truths to the subject matter they deal with. Instead of utilizing your major talents in the difficult business of discovering new viewpoints, and new understanding and techniques, you make a spectacle of yourself indulging your minor talent for innuendo and derogation. There are occasions on which it is desirable for a person with an outstanding reputation to devote some effort to pointing ·out the flaws ina significant proposal. But it is fatuous to waste time attacking one so weak that it can be demolished by high school debating tactics that avoid serious consideration of fundamental issues and deal only in hostile innuendoes, unsubstantiated arrogant opinions, and trivial nitpicking.

but wow god damn what a post. I feel like saving that and using it in case I want to make someone feel bad about a post on a forum/facebook etc. scathe factor 9001. :wowthatwasnutswtf:

that's definitely overboard when you look at it from the perspective that LBSS does respect you, your consistency, your hard work etc.. (as you basically mentioned in your last reply to him). when I read his comment I personally didn't perceive it as an insult - seemed more directed towards your tendency to flip the script, go off on tangents, focus on things that many perceive to be insignificant (certain bodyweight goals etc).. stuff like that.

FYI, it's from a 1970s exchange between John Backus and Edsger Dijkstra about some high level programming shit, which is probably why it seems really out of context:

https://medium.com/@acidflask/this-guys-arrogance-takes-your-breath-away-5b903624ca5f#.lw8wqxtdx

lol, thanks for the link!

x2.. LMAO!@#@!#@!

thanks acole.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3304 on: October 05, 2016, 11:44:18 pm »
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BW: 82.2kg / 181.22lb

Accidentally lowcarbed yesterday. my bad, couldnt get deep sleep. If i had realised it, i would have eaten more carbs! It was not intentional, lowcarbing fkn sucks for performance.

think i have legit gained a kilo or more of adipose though. wud like to trim it off and get back to seeing 80.x on the scale before attacking the next cycle.

Training and bball tonight, new season with my old team from wiinter, did not really wanna commit to that but my friend wanted to play competitive bball again and i said ok, i got you, play with my old team. of course he's already flaking on the first game so i bet he wont even play in the end lol.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3305 on: October 06, 2016, 05:52:29 am »
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BS 3x137.5(PR), 1x142.5(LPR)
Partial Jump Squats 6x110, 6x130(LPR)
Push Press 6x69.5(PR), 5Fx69.5

Sprints 6x(~100m: 20s on, 25s rest; LPR reintro)
Jumps at high target (PR; hit palm)
RDL 8x70(LPR; reintro), 10x110(LPR)
Cable row 2x12xstack(LPR; reintro)
CURL 8x30(LPR; reintro)
 
BW: 82.2kg

Notes:
I wanted to rep 142.5kg after that triple with 137.5kg but it was pretty fkn hard. For the first time it was my legs which got jelly-like, not my core, makes sense tho, that basketball i played tue (game + pickup) will do that. plus as per last post, poor sleep and accidental lowcarb, so al things considerd, it wasnt too bad. I wanted to rep 140+ with a belt, walked out 147.5kg and noped out, legs (esp knees) didn't want any of that..

maybe jumps, sprints later? think the game is a forfeit, not enough players, i dont mind, didnt really wanna play lol
« Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 09:20:50 am by maxent »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3306 on: October 06, 2016, 07:25:25 am »
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I like your progress lately but pls stop with these 110-130kg jump squats... that can't be healthy.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3307 on: October 06, 2016, 08:06:11 am »
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I like your progress lately but pls stop with these 110-130kg jump squats... that can't be healthy.

no probs .. im not doing any plyos atm and my ankle doesn't like dunking so im tryna do some sort of reg wkly jumping at least, not in love with these by any means.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3308 on: October 06, 2016, 08:09:17 am »
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i think i will skip sprints.. im afraid of wrecking myself for squatting 6x6x130kg on sunday if i add some unknown disruptive variable by introducing sprints all of a sudden :/ i really hate this situation .. fuck the weather for ruining my routine i had build up. part of me thinks i ca make it work if i eat loads but im not trying to gain weight anymore, alreaady too heavy/fat at this bw to justify that
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3309 on: October 06, 2016, 09:01:14 am »
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i think i will skip sprints.. im afraid of wrecking myself for squatting 6x6x130kg on sunday if i add some unknown disruptive variable by introducing sprints all of a sudden :/ i really hate this situation .. fuck the weather for ruining my routine i had build up. part of me thinks i ca make it work if i eat loads but im not trying to gain weight anymore, alreaady too heavy/fat at this bw to justify that

Weather permitting you should do some sprints.

Remember 130kg is fkn babyweight!!! Kill it. You got this whether you sprint or not.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3310 on: October 06, 2016, 09:17:50 am »
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+1 to what LBSS said, how much do you really want it.

I remember when it used to rain on the field I ran on and I just couldn't let the weather dicatate my running, and it rained heavy, so I went out and just pushed myself to do it, its happened alot for me.

Rain is the average weather in britain but if you want it bad you will be motivated by your determination to train in the rain and will push you.

lol there was also this other time when I used to squat tyres in my garden and it rained heavy, I went outside with long sleeve t-shirt and I would squat and then I would hold a big container over my head when recovering then put it away and start and when I finished it was still raining and then I went inside lol. Good times.
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Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3311 on: October 06, 2016, 09:17:57 am »
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+1 to what LBSS said, how much do you really want it.

I remember when it used to rain on the field I ran on and I just couldn't let the weather dicatate my running, and it rained heavy, so I went out and just pushed myself to do it, its happened alot for me.

Rain is the average weather in britain but if you want it bad you will be motivated by your determination to train in the rain and will push you.

i think i will skip sprints.. im afraid of wrecking myself for squatting 6x6x130kg on sunday if i add some unknown disruptive variable by introducing sprints all of a sudden :/ i really hate this situation .. fuck the weather for ruining my routine i had build up. part of me thinks i ca make it work if i eat loads but im not trying to gain weight anymore, alreaady too heavy/fat at this bw to justify that

Weather permitting you should do some sprints.

Remember 130kg is fkn babyweight!!! Kill it. You got this whether you sprint or not.

cheers! done. weather is gorgeous now, ive got no reason but inertia to avoid them.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3312 on: October 06, 2016, 11:31:03 pm »
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BW: 82.7kg

legs fine post sprints reintro, but doms are still possible so will see how it goes. ate a ton of fastfood last night in lieu of good nutrition, didnt realise i was outta chicken late night and had to resort to: 2 double hamburgers from mcdonalds, triple cheeseburger (minus cheese) from hjs, double grilled chicken. oh well, bit bloated but done. today i will be proactive and eat entire chicken, prob the same tmr, wanna be recoverd by sunday for 6x6x130kg..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3313 on: October 06, 2016, 11:49:23 pm »
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Something's changed in my mindset. Getting 'used' to weighing more. It's part of that buzz you get when you're getting bigger and stronger and you are inclined to overlook bodyfat% in favour of PRs. However, i'll strive on keeping a sane outlook about things:

pros of weighing more -- it's like wearing a weight vest, everything is stronger as a result of training with this bw, feel bigger/stronger
cons of weighing more -- harder on joints, recovery etc when running, jumping, balling, bodyfat is easy to gain, very hard to lose

so i have to keep a balanced perspective on all of this. next two weeks are still using 130-137.5kg volume worksets so i have no reason to go gain weight since this are baby plates still. The two volume workouts of 6x6x130kg and 6x5x137.5kg i can eat more around them, but that's 2 weeks worth of clean eating and possible bf% reduction possible if i do it right. i can gain a bit of muscle and lose a bit of fat and become a lot stronger. The traing goal is just to earn the right to use 140kg for worksets, not to gain weight.

In other news, now that ive added sprints, i'll find it easy to just repeat them. the hardest part for me is always adding stuff cos im super conservative but one i do, things usually become routine, so im happy about that. Have covered the 5 key areas of : running, jumping, lifting, balling and clean eating - give it time and it will pay off. Athleticism here i am ;)

Also cabel rows are amazing assistance which i shud keep doing reg. ive coupled them with rdls and together they will reinforce each other. the only 2 things missing are prob medball throws and barbell hip thrusts but tryna not to make workouts too long. also, im happy to focus on push presses, i dream of putting up 100kg by year end but to get there i obv at least need to be able to bench that much lmao. that's a pipe dream.

recovery recovery recovery, gna use the tens unit heavily, constrast showers, compression gear all of that. but i couldnt sleep with my cmpression pants last night, it's getting too warm to wear them to sleep ..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3314 on: October 07, 2016, 01:10:46 am »
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BW: 82.7kg

legs fine post sprints reintro, but doms are still possible so will see how it goes. ate a ton of fastfood last night in lieu of good nutrition, didnt realise i was outta chicken late night and had to resort to: 2 double hamburgers from mcdonalds, triple cheeseburger (minus cheese) from hjs, double grilled chicken. oh well, bit bloated but done. today i will be proactive and eat entire chicken, prob the same tmr, wanna be recoverd by sunday for 6x6x130kg..

I see you're not a fan of cheese :P
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