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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3405 on: November 19, 2016, 12:54:27 am »
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BW: 82.5kg

holy moly .. back's stiff today .. i wasnt expecting that, thinking i'd adapted to back extensions but there we go.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3406 on: November 20, 2016, 12:46:31 am »
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BW: 81.5kg (!!)

Yeah idk why my bodyweight is fluctuating so erratically but i had all but convinced myself weighing 82.5kg with abs was a good goal for me ha.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3407 on: November 20, 2016, 05:07:36 am »
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BS 6x125 (warmup LPR)
OHP 3x60
sprint intervals
bball practice

BW: 81.5kg (As above)

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I cant bring myself to do more sets .. whatever.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3408 on: November 20, 2016, 11:54:50 pm »
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Yesterday's basketball training was amazing. I was consciously practicing my arm swing while doing normal movements when i realised why I look so robotic and unnatural on the court ... it's b/c no one ever coached me to initiate movement with the shoulders! So for example, when cutting a better basketball player would initiate the movement top down .. for me it was always bottom only .. i think .. which is why i was and am slow to begin moves. Catching an oop or trying a windmill probably needs this more than anything else. I wonder now that if i had stronger upper body and was actually using my whole body strength in movements if i'd be more athletic? Well, we shall be explore this further but it certainly is exciting to say the least...

i wore my running shoes and tried one dunk, hurt, so im not sure if change of shoes fixes my achilles ... :(
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3409 on: November 22, 2016, 03:52:13 am »
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BW: 82.4kg

Happy that im skipping training/bball today. Body is pretty beat .. giving myself some much needed rest.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3410 on: November 23, 2016, 03:02:24 am »
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BW: 81.2kg (??)

something funny going on .. i think my body prefers to have a higher fat intake??

i want to add hip thrusts, rdls, bounds and medball throws. some or one of these made me experience that amazing sprint workout last summer where i felt super bouncy and i never figured out what caused it. since im not doing any of these atm .. im not sure which one to try and im not really keen to commit to all of them..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3411 on: November 23, 2016, 08:02:21 am »
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BS 6x120, 4x127.5, 2x2x127.5
BP 1x90, 8x77.5(LPR)
SPRINTS w/ 10kg weight vest - 6x40m
sprint intervals 6x20s on, 20s off
Back Xtn 3x12x10kg vest(PR)

BW: 81.2kg

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I used todday's suggestion to do bounds as a warmup .. but i ran into a hitch in that it causes pain in my left ankle and lower back. so i diid them submaxily which i think is ok, may even serve as rehab or at least a diagnostic that im getting healed up .. can leave them out tho.

40m sprints were fun! i found a sweet place to run near my place. has lighting and marked in 10m intervals which are really useful .. i picked 40m cos a bbball court is what 24m? so these shud make those seem easy peasy. my best time was like 6:21 on  the stopwatch but i hate the thing cos half of the time i dont trigger it right. i tried using my phone camera but i dont have a tripod and who really cares so early in the season .. i do want to see measurable progress tho
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3412 on: November 24, 2016, 02:54:49 am »
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K, not paying lipservice to sprinting anymore .. i'm going all in .. but i dont care for bodyweight sprinting .. weigh vest sprinting allows me to believe this is a productive use of my training that may get me fitter, leaner, stronger, bigger, etc. That may or may not be true but i believe it and that's the most important thing is because apart from squats, i dont think there is anything else i can say the same. I now imagine myself as a beast, weighing 85kg soaking wet and running 40m in 5s or so with a 10kg vest. That's a goal that i find exciting as a journey and destination. I still want a double bw squat for reps but with my issues with lower back, i am willing to put it aside and find something just as meaningful to me ...

dont see the point of playing meaningless basketball games eveyr week either. i dont enjoy it and i dont imrpve as an athlete or as a player. pickup on weekends is better. so i'll just do that. maybe closer to easter tournament, i'll play more games but only if im playing as a SF on the perimeter. cant get myself excited about C position on 2-3 zone and being all but absent on offence. no more. if there aren't at least 2 dudes bigger than me on a team, im declining cos ill just get pulled into the same old shit as an underweight C and ive never had much success or enjoyed it. tbh it actually regresses me as a player. i get more steals and interceptions playing on the wing .. and i get to sprint more which i enjoy rather than jogging up and down half heartedly.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3413 on: November 24, 2016, 03:30:07 am »
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No offence mate but I see weighted sprinting going pear shaped pretty quickly.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3414 on: November 24, 2016, 03:38:18 am »
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No offence mate but I see weighted sprinting going pear shaped pretty quickly.

im not worried about injuries ... at worst it will be a waste of time but i dont think that will be the case, maybe i'll grow my calves finally


edit, i actually disagree. comparing sprinting with weighted sprinting, it feels safer than running ME at bodyweight .. i feel out of control and less powerful. with the vest i feel more in control and powerful. i will focus on speed at some point, but rather work on acceleration and power since i find it more appealing than speed or vertical. when i land my first windmill i want to do it off a dropstep .. haha. if i only cared about speed or vertical id cut to 70kg but im not going to get under 80kg again.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3415 on: November 24, 2016, 04:40:53 am »
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No offence mate but I see weighted sprinting going pear shaped pretty quickly.

im not worried about injuries ... at worst it will be a waste of time but i dont think that will be the case, maybe i'll grow my calves finally


edit, i actually disagree. comparing sprinting with weighted sprinting, it feels safer than running ME at bodyweight .. i feel out of control and less powerful. with the vest i feel more in control and powerful. i will focus on speed at some point, but rather work on acceleration and power since i find it more appealing than speed or vertical. when i land my first windmill i want to do it off a dropstep .. haha. if i only cared about speed or vertical id cut to 70kg but im not going to get under 80kg again.

Power and acceleration vs speed and vertical. Two sides of the same coin no?

I'm just thinking you'll fuck up your sprinting mechanics. Where's the carry over in that?

Maybe you feel more powerful cause you're slower with the vest on and it requires more strength for you to move?

Anyway, good luck mate.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3416 on: November 24, 2016, 05:24:35 am »
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They're related but different qualities. One's speed and the other one is rate of change of speed. I enjoy the feeling of running sprints with a 10kg vest. It feels like you're accelerating. Yes it cud be b/c they're slower and so you can focus on the activity more. I'm not overly worried about sprint mechanics .. it's not pretty to start with, not sure it can get any worse .. but perhaps, even if it did, doesn't matter, im not a sprinter nor do i care about my mechanics for the most part. Additionally i know is my legs and glutes are sore af today and if i eat enough i shud grow some mass. being heavier, fitter and powerful is more appealing but unlike with squats where it means getting fatter which i can't abide. Im keen to find more interesting exercises for the summer .. if you guys have any suggestions for developing power/acceleration pls suggest away.

thanks though .. im excited to see how this will go over the next 6 wks
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3417 on: November 24, 2016, 06:41:31 am »
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https://www.t-nation.com/training/5-drills-that-are-better-than-the-prowler

some interesting ideas here .. hill sprints w/ and w/o vest alternating. i acn do that at the asme place, i think it's about 25m
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3418 on: November 24, 2016, 06:45:38 am »
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I've never done weighted sprints with a vest but they sound cool. In rugby pre-season in the past we have done weighted sled sprints, which is definitely a lot more enjoyable than doing 3km jogs and fitness circuits.

I agree with you as well for sprinting mechanics. Just run the way you normally run. Unless you're a professional sprinter where every millisecond counts you'll get a lot more bang for your buck just focusing on putting in 100% effort. Hill sprints are great as well.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3419 on: November 24, 2016, 06:58:15 am »
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I've never done weighted sprints with a vest but they sound cool. In rugby pre-season in the past we have done weighted sled sprints, which is definitely a lot more enjoyable than doing 3km jogs and fitness circuits.

I agree with you as well for sprinting mechanics. Just run the way you normally run. Unless you're a professional sprinter where every millisecond counts you'll get a lot more bang for your buck just focusing on putting in 100% effort. Hill sprints are great as well.

Thanks  :highfive:

i have a vid of my sprint form with one of the 40m sprints from last night on @maxentr0py if anyone's interested. i see myselff swinging my arms .. what else is there to form? it's not like i can change it, it's just how it is, not concerned about attaining some new form right now unless someone's gna coach me or something

I figure ive weighed 90-115kg before .. it's not crazy to run with a vest while weighing 80-85kg. i hate cheating myself into thinking im getting fitter/faster/athletic when all ive done is dieted down and got lighter and im stil the same mediocre athlete ive always been. at least this way i feel like im doing something challenging towards becoming the athlete i aspire to be (lean and powerful at 85-90kg). i am also willing to bet my vertical not only will not go down, it will remain the same as it always has been. who gives a fk about 30" vertical ..when you're a skinny af 75kg .. but i can live with a 30" at 85kg .. that feels more psychologically pleasing
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