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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3975 on: September 30, 2017, 11:36:05 am »
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Is that pasta meal tasty like does it have decent salt in it?

oh yes, i dont spare any salt. like my nutrition coach says, salt is prison creatine.

usual fat lose dosage for caffeine is 600mg = 200mgx3, eg 9am/1pm/5pm. i dont get sides from being on caffeine, just going from 600g to 0g those headaches i mentioned on the first day
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3976 on: September 30, 2017, 05:23:15 pm »
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Is that pasta meal tasty like does it have decent salt in it?

oh yes, i dont spare any salt. like my nutrition coach says, salt is prison creatine.

"prison creatine" = good shit. :ninja:

lmao that is disgusting af.. but if ur trying to get big, makes sense.

i was literally eating a big quarter, beautiful watermelon while i was watching that nasty shit. hahahaha.

also, his new intro video is really good..

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usual fat lose dosage for caffeine is 600mg = 200mgx3, eg 9am/1pm/5pm. i dont get sides from being on caffeine, just going from 600g to 0g those headaches i mentioned on the first day

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« Reply #3977 on: October 01, 2017, 01:36:31 am »
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BW: 87.5kg (huge PR)
Activity:
Misc: adductors/abductors sore, triceps/biceps, hams
Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 19/19, 0/1, 1/1, 0/1, 4/4, 0/1 1/1

Active recovery lower body & ohp/chins tonight.

Recovery BS 2x6x102.5
OHP 3x5x59.5(PR)
WCU 3x104(PR), 5x100(PR), 2x6x91(PR)
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3978 on: October 02, 2017, 02:32:56 am »
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Thinking about cardio. What shud i be doing for fat loss / body comp etc. I have to admit jumprope isnt the answer, i just mess up too much and it's annoying when you can't string together a few longer unbroken sequences of jumps. Don't really fancy treadmill or bike, i can't add any more leg fatigue to my already fatigued legs.. idk. Rowing sucks too.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3979 on: October 02, 2017, 04:07:13 am »
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Thinking about cardio. What shud i be doing for fat loss / body comp etc. I have to admit jumprope isnt the answer, i just mess up too much and it's annoying when you can't string together a few longer unbroken sequences of jumps. Don't really fancy treadmill or bike, i can't add any more leg fatigue to my already fatigued legs.. idk. Rowing sucks too.

If you're a power athlete, the answer to this question is almost always tempo sprints (IMO, of course).

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3980 on: October 02, 2017, 04:52:13 am »
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Completely ignorant of tempo sprints but i'd like to learn more
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3981 on: October 02, 2017, 05:05:13 am »
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Here's a decent expression of how tempo sprints work: https://www.charliefrancis.com/blogs/news/test
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3982 on: October 02, 2017, 12:44:30 pm »
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Thinking about cardio. What shud i be doing for fat loss / body comp etc. I have to admit jumprope isnt the answer, i just mess up too much and it's annoying when you can't string together a few longer unbroken sequences of jumps. Don't really fancy treadmill or bike, i can't add any more leg fatigue to my already fatigued legs.. idk. Rowing sucks too.

ya man, mess ups can definitely reduce the effectiveness. sux :/

Thinking about cardio. What shud i be doing for fat loss / body comp etc. I have to admit jumprope isnt the answer, i just mess up too much and it's annoying when you can't string together a few longer unbroken sequences of jumps. Don't really fancy treadmill or bike, i can't add any more leg fatigue to my already fatigued legs.. idk. Rowing sucks too.

If you're a power athlete, the answer to this question is almost always tempo sprints (IMO, of course).

+1

Here's a decent expression of how tempo sprints work: https://www.charliefrancis.com/blogs/news/test

nice reference! such a weird blog link for the tempo info though. almost as if it was the first article they put on that blog & were testing it out. just found that funny.

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« Reply #3983 on: October 03, 2017, 12:27:23 am »
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BW: 87.3kg
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Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 19/19, 0/1, 1/1, 0/1, 4/4, 0/1, 0/1, 1/1

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3984 on: October 03, 2017, 08:10:33 am »
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Completely ignorant of tempo sprints but i'd like to learn more

The Charlie Francis approach is to use it as active recovery, so if you have a nice footy oval nearby you could just do something like: [run half:slow jog half]^4-6x on your rest day after a dynamic warmup (your choice). The run part should be up on your toes with strong arm swing but not too crazy, ~7 RPE. The slow jog should be essentially walking pace. That would shred the fat off and actually doesn't tire you out for the next workout as much as you'd think, once you've done two or three sessions.

Once you get more advanced you can either do more laps or go a bit harder, lots of room for progression. Also, if you have a sled at your gym, that's another good option for HIIT.

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« Reply #3985 on: October 03, 2017, 10:54:33 am »
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BW: 87.3kg
Activity: 11.3 (good)
Misc: biceps/triceps tendons, quads, erectors, lats
Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 19/19, 0/1, 1/1, 0/1, 4/4, 0/1, 0/1, 2/2

BS 3x122.5, 3x142.5(PR), 5x137.5(PR), 5x135
RDL 8x212.5(PR)
Jumps (masaii hops, depth jumps, barbell squat jumps, rope work, some rvjs; reintro of jumps since 16 days)
Hill sprints 3xBW, 3x100(+10kg vest), 3xBW (reintro since 16 days)
Back Xtn 8x60, 12x60, 12x60 (PR; these are done with the ezcurl bar from now on, no more vests/plates to chest; reinto since 16 days )

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One of my best workouts ever. Even on the PRs i felt i had another rep in me. But i didn't do anything that took too much out of me. Stayed fresh. Stayed strong throughout the workout. Notably i had 2 full meals before the workout (i never do that normally etc). A few promising things happening, my squats are getting stronger and stronger even for limit weights, im holding form well (form strength is something ive always lacked, esp when the weight gets heavy). I can always do pretty reps with light weight but my form deterioriated with heavier weights, that's starting to sort itself out now. I decided to not bother doing a heavy single with 160kg. I figured if i get it, it's prob gonna be ugly and exhausting and wreck the rest of the workout. If i fail, it will destroy my morale. So better to just do weights not too far from my volume worksets. Heavy singles will come later down the road when im stronger (ie 10-20kg heavier volume worksets). In the meantime no one cares about 160 (as stirnger bell says about 40 degrees).
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3986 on: October 03, 2017, 12:27:08 pm »
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stringer bell reference, lol. stringer played too many sides, got-got. as far as training goes, that probably means stay focus and loyal to the task at hand. :ninja:

great work man.

and ya to figuring out when to fuel up. need to find a solid/reproducible meal timing/content plan for different types of sessions, if that means some big meals before heavy lifting, then do it.. just alter your diet around it, if you need to.

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« Reply #3987 on: October 04, 2017, 02:04:57 am »
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Completely ignorant of tempo sprints but i'd like to learn more

The Charlie Francis approach is to use it as active recovery, so if you have a nice footy oval nearby you could just do something like: [run half:slow jog half]^4-6x on your rest day after a dynamic warmup (your choice). The run part should be up on your toes with strong arm swing but not too crazy, ~7 RPE. The slow jog should be essentially walking pace. That would shred the fat off and actually doesn't tire you out for the next workout as much as you'd think, once you've done two or three sessions.

Once you get more advanced you can either do more laps or go a bit harder, lots of room for progression. Also, if you have a sled at your gym, that's another good option for HIIT.

Thanks acole. There are loads of ovals etc around. Nearest one is usually used for soccer most nights but it's no biggy to find another one, esp since im driving to the gym and there are more around there. this is my training schedule (for the last,  wanna say 8-10 weeks it's been?): I train every other day (EOD)

Day 1: Volume squats
Day 2: rest
Day 3: upper body (ohp & chinups), recovery squats
Day 4: rest
Day 5: Heavy lower body (squats, rdls, back extensions, max jumps, hill sprints)
Day 6: rest
Day 7: upper body (bench, dips), recovery squats
Day 8: rest

Repeat

So i would be tacking the tempo workouts onto days 3 and 7. I can start tmr (day 7 in the schedule). Real easy/light and add reps as i handle it ok? Just to be clear what distance should i use?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3988 on: October 04, 2017, 02:09:39 am »
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stringer bell reference, lol. stringer played too many sides, got-got. as far as training goes, that probably means stay focus and loyal to the task at hand. :ninja:

great work man.

Thanks! Stringer complaining about 40 degree days corresponds to me overthinking anythina bout anything right now. I just need to shut up and do work. No more training ADD, reading random stuff, lots of insta videos etc. Just need to put in some solid work and get my squat worksets to 150kg for 5s at 90kg soaking wet and keep chipping away slowly at the damn adipose in the meantime.

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and ya to figuring out when to fuel up. need to find a solid/reproducible meal timing/content plan for different types of sessions, if that means some big meals before heavy lifting, then do it.. just alter your diet around it, if you need to.

Yeah honestly. What a revelation. Not like i didnt know i coudl do better from eating more. But i think a holdover of the thinking from my cutting days where eating bulk of calories postworkout was a maintstay to improving partitioning / recovery etc .. but i have to give myself the best chance of doing quality work now, no fasted gimmicks holding you back
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« Reply #3989 on: October 04, 2017, 02:11:46 am »
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BW: 87.1kg
Activity: 6 (bad lol)
Misc: left elbow complaining (about yesterdays zercher back extensions i think),
Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 19/19, 0/1, 1/1, 0/1, 4/4, 0/1, 0/1, 3/3

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