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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1275 on: October 10, 2013, 10:09:34 am »
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Ok. Well you're still doing a good job with your lifting so don't be too hard on yourself!

Ha thanks. I'm planning on maintaining my absolute strength (140kg FS + 90kg BW = 230kg). So if I drop 5kg bodyweight, the bar weight should be 5kg heavier so i'm still the same absolute strength. That's my goal. If everything goes to plan, by the end of the cut, i'll still have the same absolute strength (230kg), and my relative strength will be that magic 2xbw number instead of the 1.5 it is atm.
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chasing athleticism -- W1D3
« Reply #1276 on: October 11, 2013, 08:08:23 am »
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Training
FS 1x127.5, 1x132.5, 0Fx137, 0Fx136.44
BS 3x120, 2x127.5, 2x132.5, 1x135, 2x130
HBBS-ATG 2x6x100
BP 5x90 (PR)
WCU 2x90, 7x90, 5x94.5, 5x92, 5x90
HKR 2x16x90 (PR)
AWR 7Fx90

FS notes:
Not much to say, disappointing front squats, no PRs, got owned by the weight, couldn't even get it into the sticking point lol. I'm regretting ab wheel on monday, ruined my training for the whole week, my core still isn't well recovered. i was going so well this week before dabbling in that stupid shit. oh well.

BS notes:
No pop, no juice, legs heavy and uninterested.

Upper body:
Big milestone today, I benched 90kg for 5 reps. That was a long term goal. Now the hard work begins towards 100x5, hopefully when that happens, i'll start to look like I lift. lol.

Abs notes:
Did chinups and then hanging knee raises, these were really tough today, i guess from monday's ab carnage. I also did just one set of rollouts, just to keep my body keen. I expect on monday i'll find myself recovered and with new core strength that is sufficient to achieve my short term squatting goal of 140kg.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 10:46:19 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1277 on: October 11, 2013, 08:24:59 am »
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At least you can see how much the core strength matters in the squat, and in the jump as well as a consequence. And it tells you that you need to improve it (it tells me that as well).
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1278 on: October 11, 2013, 08:36:45 am »
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At least you can see how much the core strength matters in the squat, and in the jump as well as a consequence. And it tells you that you need to improve it (it tells me that as well).

Fully agree! That's the silver lining here, i can be a fair bit stronger a squatter, esp out of the hole with more weight once i've beefed up my core strength. The downside is right now this 'discovery' is costing me valuable progress/PRs, which sucks. But it's okay, i'll find a balance. I tried to be conservative with ab wheel and only did 2x8 but seems even that was too much to start with, should have done 1x5 or something instead. I'll do some today, and hopefully come monday with a much stronger, recovered core i'll be back on track for FS 1x140kg (PR) so I can put this absolute strength gain chapter behind me and start on relative strength gain.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1279 on: October 11, 2013, 09:08:06 am »
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Do you do them kneeling? Try to focus on keeping a posterior pelvic tilt throughout the motion.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1280 on: October 11, 2013, 09:12:27 am »
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I started them kneeling yeah, but I got full rom, i end up with my bellly touching the ground .. maybe i'm too fat haha. and yea you taught me how to them correctly last time so they dont work my lower back and focus on the abdominals.
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chasing athleticism -- W2D1
« Reply #1281 on: October 14, 2013, 09:28:26 am »
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Training
FS 1x120, 1x127.5, 0Fx132.5, 0Fx137, 0x140, 5x115 (PR)
BS 3x120, 3x126, 2x130, 3x127, 2Fx120
BS2 2x6x105
BP 7Fx84.5 (PR)

FS notes:
Even failed a warmup today :s overtraining?

BS notes:
Blah

BP notes:
Concentric on 7th was a bit off and this threw off the eccentric on the 8th, also at the same time my right hamstring cramped up, so i failed the 8th rep, still a PR but I wanted 8. Anyway next time i'll get it. I'm so close to 8x85 now at which point I think i'll put my BP on maintenance and bring up my ohp.


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« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 10:27:48 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1282 on: October 14, 2013, 09:35:51 am »
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Did you fail 132.5, 137 and 140 in that order?
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chasing athleticism -- W2D2
« Reply #1283 on: October 16, 2013, 09:54:59 am »
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Training
FS 1x120, 1x127.5, 1x132.5, 0Fx137, 3Fx117, 5Fx110
BS 3x120, 1x125, 1x131
CR 10x120, 10x130, 10x140
OHP 6x40, 6x50, 5x60, 5x62, 7x56(PR), 10x52.5(PR)

FS notes
My recent problems with FS appear to be technique related. I had good form on the warmups, upto and including the penultimate set, getting bent over on the 132.5; nevertheless failing the topset but feel confident that I would have got it on a better day. I haven't quite figured out how my technique is breaking down on the limit maxes, but at least my warmups were much improved. Now to carry that over to PR attempts.

BS notes:
Taking a holiday from backsquats today, back to normal friday.

Calves notes:
New exercises barbell calf raise, i like it, lets see what it does for me.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 10:58:25 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1284 on: October 18, 2013, 07:07:18 am »
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Coming down with something, body temp has been higher than normal. Not all there mentally either, because I forgot to take my daily vitamin c when I could really have used it. Oh well, i'm still going to try to push a PR tonight.
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chasing athleticism -- W2D3
« Reply #1285 on: October 18, 2013, 08:25:37 am »
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Training
FS 2x110, 1x122.5, 1x127.5, 1x135

FS notes:
misloaded the last warmup as 127 instead of 130. meant the jump to 135 was too large. i tweaked the fuck out of my back during, but finished the rep. i heard this crunching sound with like 3 beats. fuck, i hope it's not too serious, it feels pretty bad, never had anything like this happen to me before. scary.


Thats it, not going to try train thru this, i can barely unrack the plates and put them back on the rack, leave alone train! should always double and triple check the plates before squatting, i dunno why i didn't this time around, i am usually pretty good at that. I guess like i said in my last post, i'm not all there today.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2013, 08:28:36 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1286 on: October 18, 2013, 12:47:53 pm »
+1
Imho the real take-home-point here is not 'never load wrong the warmup sets again' but 'never push a bad form 1RM squatmorning again'. Not saying that loading the correct load is not important, but a back injury is aeons more serious than  a random 1RM miss.
Hope it ain't serious man, damn, all the forum seems to suffer injuries lately :(
AELSqwad everyone!!!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1287 on: October 18, 2013, 02:59:28 pm »
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The right warmup set is very important because it tells me how to play the topset. Depending on the feel of the warmup, i'll give the topset the respect it deserves. If it's really hard then it takes out enough out of me that the topset will fail safely at the bottom. The worst place to fail a front squat is over halfway up, cause then you are either dropping it, or you're going to be fucked completing it with bad form, or you're safely riding it down. I wasn't struggling today, it wasn't that heavy & challenging that i was going to give up on it and ride it down, usually when that happens for me, it's because i'm soundly defeated by the weight. But that didn't happen today, bar went up quickly and strongly, and then disaster struck, and yet i wasn't near failure, the weight didn't fall out of my hands, i just locked it out without a fuss even after injury.

Just wasted 6 hours of my life at the ED. Doctors wouldn't do any scans. Said not worth exposing you to the radition of an x-ray. Or a CT scan, and they don't do MRI's on overnight patients. Doctor said it's a muscle sprain/strain/tear/whatever. The cunt wrote me a script for BTC ibuprofen and some other shit, i made him change it to celebrex though, cause the least i could get out this whole thing was some decent nsaids. He said we don't usually prescribe celebrex, cunt, probably cause they have a contract with the ibuprofen supplier. Fuck them.

Anyway at least I got to read a really cool book, Visual Complex Analysis is the bomb.


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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1288 on: October 19, 2013, 05:31:20 am »
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Agree about the warmup sequence, even more in your case (warming up for max single ). I just thought it was a bad rep that did the snap, but it seems it wasn't. As you said, disaster struck, bad luck, sucks!!! Feel better man, hope it's just a minor tweak/strain. Very wise to not train through it, back is a real bitch!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1289 on: October 20, 2013, 07:09:50 am »
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I just think 127.5 was too light to tell me anything useful, or prepare me for 135kg because it was only a 5kg jump from 122.5kg. 122.5kg to 130kg to 135kg would have been much better :(  It's just the way i've trained these front squats, my last warmup has to be heavy and close enough to the topset. I kind of adopted it from broz when he says daily squatting autoregulates your squatting attempts. My warmups usually serve to autoregulate my singles.

Been in a bit of agony, can't sit down long before it starts hurting quite badly. Hard to sleep too. But it seems to be improving daily, i think. Haven't taken any nsaids yet, haven't been to the pharmacy, just panadol and occasionally apply topical voltaren, maybe twice a day.  I might train tomorrow or take a day off depending on how it feels. I've done more reading in the last 54 hours than I have in the last 6 months though. I sat down to write a C program but found myself in so much pain while trying to read the docs that I abandoned it, but otherwise I imagine this would be a really productive time for me there too!
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