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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3345 on: January 06, 2016, 08:53:54 pm »
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WEIGHT: 187.6 (172.8)
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: left ankle a little (?)
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up

- KB swing 60 x 10,10

- squat 325 x 1,1,1,1; paused 205 x 3,3
strong as fork, weight was flying, especially on reps 1 and 3.

- BB hip thrust 205 x 15,15

- hanging leg raise x 10; +5 x 6+4

- stretch

all available potential spaces for throws and bounds were occupied. so it goes.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3346 on: January 07, 2016, 03:21:42 am »
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Is that 325 wearing the vest? So you actually did 4 (flying up) singles with ~340???  :strong: :strong: :strong: :ibsquatting: :ibsquatting: :ibsquatting:
( still worthy of icons and props even without the vest! )
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 04:27:06 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3347 on: January 07, 2016, 05:54:30 am »
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damn that's strong!  :ibsquatting: :ibsquatting:

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3348 on: January 07, 2016, 09:32:35 am »
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yeah it was with the vest. vest is still only 10 lbs, though.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3349 on: January 07, 2016, 06:19:05 pm »
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Yes, my bad, saw the 187-172 difference and thought it was just vest but you stated at the beginning of the hypergravity phase that clothes and shoes are included.
4x1@335 is still awesome though!  :highfive:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3350 on: January 08, 2016, 07:50:03 pm »
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last night:

WEIGHT: 189 (174)
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right knee
MENTAL STATE: dead

- warm up

- SVJ x 5,5

- SL SVJ x 5,5/leg

- pogo x 10,10,10 + SL x 6/leg

- rest of workout

just felt very dead. also i think i either am undercounting calories or overestimated how much i burn in a typical day. never really tried to diet before, i kind of thought it'd be a cinch but it looks like if i really do want to lose weight i'll have to make some actual changes other than cutting out sweets. this should come as a surprise to no one, myself included. new target is 1700kcal/day, including 180g of protein. that leaves roughly 1000kcal from fats and carbs. okay.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3351 on: January 09, 2016, 02:18:05 am »
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just felt very dead. also i think i either am undercounting calories or overestimated how much i burn in a typical day. never really tried to diet before, i kind of thought it'd be a cinch but it looks like if i really do want to lose weight i'll have to make some actual changes other than cutting out sweets. this should come as a surprise to no one, myself included. new target is 1700kcal/day, including 180g of protein. that leaves roughly 1000kcal from fats and carbs. okay.

Wow this is cool, you started dieting just after I did. It's a first for me too. I counted my calories for a while and found the average ratio of carb:fat:protein ratio I got was like 3:1:1, and I generally got around 3k calories on days when I trained a moderate amount  before I started dieting. Haven't counted since I started dieting, that might be helpful..

You might have a really different metabolism but 1.7k seems like a really small amount. I dunno if you ever counted the calories of your days before dieting, but if it's anything close to mine, then it would probably be better to have a gradual lowering to 1.7k to give your body more time to adapt.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3352 on: January 09, 2016, 09:58:28 am »
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yeah but i'm trying to lose a decent amount of fat in just two weeks and then go back to normal. i tried to eat way under maintenance yesterday and failed. new respect for dieters, especially long-term dieters. it's funny, i've been interested by and reading about this stuff for years now but trying it for myself is a different story. no shit, i guess.

if i can ask, why are you going on a diet? you're pretty lean.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3353 on: January 09, 2016, 10:09:25 am »
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Sorry bro just saw your PM. My app is not completed enough for ppl to use. It's like 99% done but the last 1% is the part where you have enough polish to hand over to a user and they can run it without any issues. It's mostly the getting to start part, expecting files to exist, or creating them, etc. I'm just lazy. I will suggest though, instead use myfitnesspal which has a smartphone app and can tie in with a fitbit to add in calorie tracking as well as activity monitoring. Was using that myself over dec and highly recommend it.

Also, dieting sucks.. but it helps to use the right supplements.. if you're in the states you can get bronkaid+caffeine and if you throw in green tea capsules, calcium supplement and some decent amount of fasting  + fasted walking in, you can get very good bodycomp changes very quickly. But yeah that might not be your cup of tea which is fine, just do it will sheer willpower.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3354 on: January 09, 2016, 02:34:01 pm »
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^^^no doubt, thanks for the tips. i'm gonna try sheer willpower first, if that doesn't work then we'll see what's up with supps.

WEIGHT: ??? (???)
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right mid back, SI joint a bit -- both went away with warm up, but then i got a headache
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up

- DLRVJ x ~12
got a dude to try throwing me a few lobs, maybe did 7-8 attempts. no idea how close i was on the couple of tosses that seemed pretty good, although given that i got a violent dunk with the size 3 soccer ball on my first jump i know i was getting pretty high, PR-tie levels. first time ever asking someone to throw lobs so i feel good about it. head started killing me after the third or fourth jump.

the headache was triggered, i'm pretty sure, by having three cups of coffee without food before working out. the timing of the day got screwed up because of some damn event in the gym, didn't end up eating until after i worked out, so around 2 PM. not ideal. i feel out of it now.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3355 on: January 09, 2016, 03:25:18 pm »
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Maybe too many variables to try and adapt to at once? You're already training with the weght vest and such. I don't know if it wouldn't be better to eat clean but well enough to train then just lean out sub 36 hrs hours of intended peak jump day or so.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3356 on: January 09, 2016, 05:28:16 pm »
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yeah but i'm trying to lose a decent amount of fat in just two weeks and then go back to normal. i tried to eat way under maintenance yesterday and failed. new respect for dieters, especially long-term dieters. it's funny, i've been interested by and reading about this stuff for years now but trying it for myself is a different story. no shit, i guess.

if i can ask, why are you going on a diet? you're pretty lean.

I think for the time and effort that I use it has a really good carryover to a lot of skills in Ultimate, since it's a non-contact game (as long as there's not too much atrophy). I wish you luck with your diet, it will be a brutal 2 weeks.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3357 on: January 09, 2016, 06:11:04 pm »
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Are you just cutting using calories?  I know some camps say doesn't matter where calories come from, while others say it does.  But from my experience, high protein/low carb (~100g or even less if for short term) while training hard leans me out so much faster than if I just count calories.   Fats are just adjusted depending on energy.  I also like to drink gatorades during workouts to help with the low sugar intake.  I pretty much just down a bottle (30g sugar) during my warm ups.

Just my experience on what works for me really well and I'm fairly lean so it's not like it worked cause I'm fat

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3358 on: January 10, 2016, 12:30:49 am »
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^^^no doubt, thanks for the tips. i'm gonna try sheer willpower first, if that doesn't work then we'll see what's up with supps.

Our man Lyle makes the point that it's a good idea to go on the EC from day 0 because it gives a 10% metabolic boost immediately, so you burn more calories in that first week or two .. then your body realises whatsup and adjusts your MR and drops it say 10% to compensate for being in a caloric deficit. But now metabolically you're at the same place you would have been on day 0 instead of being at 90% without EC. So you get a bit more fat loss in by starting EC asap. Also EC metabolic effect improves with time too. The longer you're on it, the better fat loss you get out of it. If it's legal and convenient then there is no harm in using it straight away.

With the green tea capsules, it's just an icing to the cake, so to speak. Taking it fasted will help with getting into the stubborn fat which your body would otherwise not mobilise. Theres other stuff, yohimbine when you're getting into stubborn fat helps to mobilise fat off your moobs/hips/lowerback etc.

Also important to supplement calcium and fish oil (helps positive body recomposition) and when dieting severely since the vitamins and minerals you'd get from a normal diet are missing. This will help avoid performance losses. I use gatorade/berocca preworkout and it helps a lot. Outside training, if you're short on zinc and magnesium it can affect mental state.. feel sluggish etc. Hydration is important too. I supplement with (healthy higher potassium than sodium) salt in my shakes to keep hydration up, important esp when low carbing. Oh and going low carb (~100g a day) is a good idea to get into stubborn bodyfat as well. Theres loads of tricks to it all.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3359 on: January 10, 2016, 04:45:38 am »
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Lol, for what it's worth, in my n=1, the EC stack was one hell of an experience.

Basically, I just wanted to try it to see how it feels.  I took it pre-workout.  I got so amped up I PR'ed my vertical by like ~2", PR'd my squat by 10 lbs, did a whole jump session + plyo + lifting routine that ended up being 3 hours long and left the gym feeling perfectly fine and ready to kill it some more.  I rested 72 hours and repeated the workout but didn't work as well the 2nd time, but managed the same PR jump. 

After that workout, my CNS was so trashed, I couldn't have a productive workout in like 10 days. I swear I came back 72 hours after that 2nd workout and I couldn't squat even ~65% of my 1RM.  It took me a week to get back to baseline, where the long time off did more harm than good.  I threw away my bronkaid after that.