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Re: A shoe specifically for dunking
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2017, 02:11:27 pm »
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I totally agree on bball shoes. I realised after wearing lighter, less bulky shoes that bball shoes (even super low cut) are just too heavy/awkward. I run in the Nike XC waffle racers (best running shoes) and I've found the Nike Metcon 3 are a great in-between option, they're essentially running shoes with more structure in the heel for squatting. Great for jumping. lifting and running. Unfortunately it means indirectly supporting crossfit *shudder*...but they really are the best training shoes I've had. Great for basketball too.

nike metcon 3 look like my dream shoe on paper. i would have to try them out but i saw the weight is slightly heavier than my kobes at 11 ounces vs 9. that might be a deal breaker on the ewight front but i do love the idea of one shoe for running, jumping and maybe lifting as well
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Re: A shoe specifically for dunking
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2017, 12:36:41 am »
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I totally agree on bball shoes. I realised after wearing lighter, less bulky shoes that bball shoes (even super low cut) are just too heavy/awkward. I run in the Nike XC waffle racers (best running shoes) and I've found the Nike Metcon 3 are a great in-between option, they're essentially running shoes with more structure in the heel for squatting. Great for jumping. lifting and running. Unfortunately it means indirectly supporting crossfit *shudder*...but they really are the best training shoes I've had. Great for basketball too.

nike metcon 3 look like my dream shoe on paper. i would have to try them out but i saw the weight is slightly heavier than my kobes at 11 ounces vs 9. that might be a deal breaker on the ewight front but i do love the idea of one shoe for running, jumping and maybe lifting as well

Yes they're definitely heavier than my other main shoe (Nike XC Zoom Rival) at ~6oz. YMMV but I like them a lot. A bit pricey at $150-$180, but...most bball shoes are around that here.

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Re: A shoe specifically for dunking
« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2017, 03:18:47 am »
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I totally agree on bball shoes. I realised after wearing lighter, less bulky shoes that bball shoes (even super low cut) are just too heavy/awkward. I run in the Nike XC waffle racers (best running shoes) and I've found the Nike Metcon 3 are a great in-between option, they're essentially running shoes with more structure in the heel for squatting. Great for jumping. lifting and running. Unfortunately it means indirectly supporting crossfit *shudder*...but they really are the best training shoes I've had. Great for basketball too.

nike metcon 3 look like my dream shoe on paper. i would have to try them out but i saw the weight is slightly heavier than my kobes at 11 ounces vs 9. that might be a deal breaker on the ewight front but i do love the idea of one shoe for running, jumping and maybe lifting as well

Yes they're definitely heavier than my other main shoe (Nike XC Zoom Rival) at ~6oz. YMMV but I like them a lot. A bit pricey at $150-$180, but...most bball shoes are around that here.

convinced. ive ordered a pair! I realise a lightweight shoe might be better for getting jumping PRs but for training i dont even mind a slightly heavier one as long as it still lets you get some quality jumps in (anything better than my adidas crazy lights which dont feel right to jump in). Will be interesting to see if they can replace my regular squatting shoes tho, they're getting old now. If they can do that and i can jump rope in them i'll be happy.
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Re: A shoe specifically for dunking
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2017, 12:46:59 pm »
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So if acole recommends something, it's always worth trying it out. The Nike Metcon 3 has already become my all time favourite training shoe. I got them today and used them for training tonight. Feels so good jump in, did some decent depth jumps then loads of RVJs and worked up to a PR level jump (vids on instagram). Did jump rope, felt smooth and easy, could do it all day. In general, it just feels perfect for a shoe for jumping. I'd say it's better than Kobes for basketball too, with Kobes you have to be careful how you land b/c the wrong angle and you can catch the squishy part or something and throw your landing off. Not so with the Metcon 3, all the different angles and i landed safely and securely because there is a uniformity to the shoe's landing regardless of where and how you land. Only hitch is i wouldn't play a full game with them, at least oftne, b/c the harder sole means not as much cushioning. Kobe are prob better for games. Maybe for a final or something i'd just ball in these though.

I think they'd be good for sprinting but i didnt wanna take them on road b/c i think bits of gravel wud get stuck in the grooves - would be fine on grass though. I'll update this when i try them for sprinting.

I didnt squat in them but i did some jump squats with the barbell. Felt fine. I dont think they are going to displace my regular squat shoes tho, the hard sole on those and the metastartisisisi starp just win. But at a pinch, or for a light recovery day, sure cud squat in these.

They look sick too.
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Re: A shoe specifically for dunking
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2017, 08:34:04 pm »
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So if acole recommends something, it's always worth trying it out. The Nike Metcon 3 has already become my all time favourite training shoe. I got them today and used them for training tonight. Feels so good jump in, did some decent depth jumps then loads of RVJs and worked up to a PR level jump (vids on instagram). Did jump rope, felt smooth and easy, could do it all day. In general, it just feels perfect for a shoe for jumping. I'd say it's better than Kobes for basketball too, with Kobes you have to be careful how you land b/c the wrong angle and you can catch the squishy part or something and throw your landing off. Not so with the Metcon 3, all the different angles and i landed safely and securely because there is a uniformity to the shoe's landing regardless of where and how you land. Only hitch is i wouldn't play a full game with them, at least oftne, b/c the harder sole means not as much cushioning. Kobe are prob better for games. Maybe for a final or something i'd just ball in these though.

I think they'd be good for sprinting but i didnt wanna take them on road b/c i think bits of gravel wud get stuck in the grooves - would be fine on grass though. I'll update this when i try them for sprinting.

I didnt squat in them but i did some jump squats with the barbell. Felt fine. I dont think they are going to displace my regular squat shoes tho, the hard sole on those and the metastartisisisi starp just win. But at a pinch, or for a light recovery day, sure cud squat in these.

They look sick too.

Good to hear mate! Yes if I had to rank the big three in order with this shoe, it'd be: jumping>>squatting>sprinting. They're not a full-fledged lifting shoe by any means but they're solid enough for me. Also, proper cross country flats are still better for sprinting, but they are totally fine for that as well.

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Re: A shoe specifically for dunking
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2017, 03:38:30 am »
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So if acole recommends something, it's always worth trying it out. The Nike Metcon 3 has already become my all time favourite training shoe. I got them today and used them for training tonight. Feels so good jump in, did some decent depth jumps then loads of RVJs and worked up to a PR level jump (vids on instagram). Did jump rope, felt smooth and easy, could do it all day. In general, it just feels perfect for a shoe for jumping. I'd say it's better than Kobes for basketball too, with Kobes you have to be careful how you land b/c the wrong angle and you can catch the squishy part or something and throw your landing off. Not so with the Metcon 3, all the different angles and i landed safely and securely because there is a uniformity to the shoe's landing regardless of where and how you land. Only hitch is i wouldn't play a full game with them, at least oftne, b/c the harder sole means not as much cushioning. Kobe are prob better for games. Maybe for a final or something i'd just ball in these though.

I think they'd be good for sprinting but i didnt wanna take them on road b/c i think bits of gravel wud get stuck in the grooves - would be fine on grass though. I'll update this when i try them for sprinting.

I didnt squat in them but i did some jump squats with the barbell. Felt fine. I dont think they are going to displace my regular squat shoes tho, the hard sole on those and the metastartisisisi starp just win. But at a pinch, or for a light recovery day, sure cud squat in these.

They look sick too.

Good to hear mate! Yes if I had to rank the big three in order with this shoe, it'd be: jumping>>squatting>sprinting. They're not a full-fledged lifting shoe by any means but they're solid enough for me. Also, proper cross country flats are still better for sprinting, but they are totally fine for that as well.

one thing i might point out is a lot of people (some people??) squat better with a smaller heel than an a typical oly size one. I think Coges might be one of those like me. In that case it's possible that even without the solid heel of an oly shoe, the metcon 3 is a better shoe for those people to squat in. My regular squatting shoes actually have the heel modified to be smaller so i get the best of both worlds. I also squat with oly shoes as as an assistance exercise but if i had to choose oly shoes vs metcon 3 only, im not sure which i'd pick, that would be a harder choice.
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