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BMully

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 03:20:23 pm »
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the guy in the article said sprinters are born not made, but i believe there still is a way to be a beast sprinter and have the completely wrong structure, though i think i have a pretty good sprinter's structure I need to up my strength before i turn heads

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 04:51:16 pm »
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the guy in the article said sprinters are born not made, but i believe there still is a way to be a beast sprinter and have the completely wrong structure, though i think i have a pretty good sprinter's structure I need to up my strength before i turn heads

elite sprinters are born not made, such as usain bolt/tyson gay, but that's not to say someone could get from low 12's to high 10's (or mid 11 to low 10), that's for sure, it can definitely happen.

people whine about not getting faster, or reaching a certain "limit", but most of these people don't do everything possible within their will to improve.. there is no such thing as a limit, truly, as you progress towards your peak, every tenth & hundredth of a second becomes PR territory..

we see people make some gains on sprinting, get to a level, and then get content.. but if more progress is to be made, other avenues are capable of being explored.. if you go from moderate to good to very good in your sprint/strength/fitness abilities, there is always that last level of advanced training which people never even enter.. elite athletes don't need to enter it, as just doing moderate level training is usually enough to keep them better than their peers.. but to advanced to the greatest levels, other systems of training can be experimented with, such as:
- high volume shock routines
- downhill sprinting on 3-6 degree slopes
- stim methods & supercompensation techniques
- wind aided sprints
- all types of various shock drops in different positions
- all types of ballistic / explosive lifts
- playing with concentrated loading of sprints, lifts, or plyos, then tapering off and trying to obtain more PR's

the possibilities for improvement are endless, yet untapped.. athletes get content training in the norm, which for most of their training career is where they should be, but to truly push the limits after reaching what seems to be the utmost peak in athleticism, some crazy motherfucking shit can be implemented.

peace man

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 07:11:45 pm »
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ok, but i have a low amount of strength but i am still fast, if i could up my strength massively..i would become very very fast would'nt I? I ran 13's freshman year and increased my squat very slightly and ran 12.3, so yea it happens pretty fast for me

but i know everyone is different, i have to say, i admit that i think almost every great sprinter is a genetic freak, but there are some that work super super hard..not usain though, friken lucky SOB

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 01:51:08 am »
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ok, but i have a low amount of strength but i am still fast, if i could up my strength massively..i would become very very fast would'nt I? I ran 13's freshman year and increased my squat very slightly and ran 12.3, so yea it happens pretty fast for me

for sure man.. most people will get faster if they:
- improve squat & lunge
- keep sprinting & improve fitness

those both go hand in hand.. if you neglect either one though, then squat may improve with speed staying the same or getting worse, etc.. say if you get squat addicted and don't get your sprint/tempo sessions in like you normally do, then fitness/reactive strength drops and you get slower.

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but i know everyone is different, i have to say, i admit that i think almost every great sprinter is a genetic freak, but there are some that work super super hard..not usain though, friken lucky SOB

yea you basically have to look at their numbers while they were at high school age, that tells you everything.. most every sprinter you look up will have great times in h.s., i can't even think of any right now off the top of my head that didn't :/ but you have alot of room to improve, 11.8 at your strength level/age is not bad at all.. that training yo uare doing is having a big impact.

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 09:57:55 pm »
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Yay for my long heel and short toes!
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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 10:45:07 am »
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but i know everyone is different, i have to say, i admit that i think almost every great sprinter is a genetic freak, but there are some that work super super hard..not usain though, friken lucky SOB

yea you basically have to look at their numbers while they were at high school age, that tells you everything.. most every sprinter you look up will have great times in h.s., i can't even think of any right now off the top of my head that didn't :/ but you have alot of room to improve, 11.8 at your strength level/age is not bad at all.. that training yo uare doing is having a big impact.

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that's why i agree that most high school coaches don't know what they are doing

like we have alot of genetic freaks on the track team...well only the top guys are super genetic freaks really

one guy looks like he is a bodybuilder, and does'nt even lift that much, i mean huge, though he is super short
he runs 100m better than me
another is a guy who is just crazy, his brother plays for the NO saints and he is running 11.1

anyway i keep getting faster



but i am curious about this short heel thing, what does that mean? like how do i tell if my heel is long or short? i know i have long toes (tmi prolly) and i have a realatively long achilies tendon and small-medium sized calf
I have small joints and long limbs 2


so i think i have sprinter structure but i could just be the run of the mill guy though..idk what exactly is this sprinter structure...

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 11:38:57 pm »
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I don't know about the whole toe/heel ratio or whatever. But, to BMULLY, hard work always pays off. You may not be an elite, but in high school you can get pretty far. Freshman year I was nothing special, not the slowest but I definitely wouldn't be considered fast. Now, I'm at the top with a few others. I don't expect to be world class, but I do expect to be someone other athletes look out for.

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 01:27:21 pm »
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I don't know about the whole toe/heel ratio or whatever. But, to BMULLY, hard work always pays off. You may not be an elite, but in high school you can get pretty far. Freshman year I was nothing special, not the slowest but I definitely wouldn't be considered fast. Now, I'm at the top with a few others. I don't expect to be world class, but I do expect to be someone other athletes look out for.

yea i went from slowest to top 5 in a year..hopefully i'll be Number #1 this year and it just might happen 2 cuz we are lossing a few guys

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 08:26:58 pm »
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I went up as well in a single year. Unfortunately last year our school got bumped to 4A, making us the smallest one in the state, competition was pretty rough for me.

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 12:31:30 am »
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I went up as well in a single year. Unfortunately last year our school got bumped to 4A, making us the smallest one in the state, competition was pretty rough for me.

actually we are 4A but we are private so we raced against the big schools and the small schools

anyway for state there is no class system in track in my state

anyway i wanna make it to playoff(maybe not state) at least once in my high school career

i ran 3rd in varsity this year but some of the guys where hurt or got kicked of the team
and we have a new coach and he is a total jerk who doesn't know shit about what he is doing

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 01:41:41 am »
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That's unfortunate. I was first in the 110m hurdles in my school, second in the 300m hurdles, and second in long jump (not because I'm good at that one but because very few people do it)

I made it to region but did really poorly in my events. I got put in the 4x400 at last minute and surprised the team, I helped us get to state but I didn't do too well there. That's part of why I want to focus some more on the 400m this year.

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 05:09:48 pm »
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That's unfortunate. I was first in the 110m hurdles in my school, second in the 300m hurdles, and second in long jump (not because I'm good at that one but because very few people do it)

I made it to region but did really poorly in my events. I got put in the 4x400 at last minute and surprised the team, I helped us get to state but I didn't do too well there. That's part of why I want to focus some more on the 400m this year.

my times as of sophomore year season

100m-12.3FAT
200m-24.8FAT
400m-55.8FAT

^^those are slow but i am faster now...i have been telling every1 that i estimate a 11.8 100m now maybe better
so i need to go to an open track meet and put my $ where my mouth is and do that 11.8 or better

but this is what coach told me i need to do or he will put me on 800m where supposedly i will improve faster and have a better time making it 2 state one day...WHICH IS COMPLETE SHIT!!800m is still hard to improve in and I am not good at distance at all...i don't even like 400m

times i need to stay on sprinter team(these would probably be fastest on our team next year as well)

100m-11.5 or under
200m-23flat or under(which doesn't make sense 2 me cuz this would be very hard)
400m-under 55 (he never got the memo that i did 55seconds i guess)

anyway he never actually knew my pr's...thought i was running 12.5 in 100m 25 in 200m and 58 in 400m

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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 05:19:34 pm »
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i don't even like 400m

Oh, no wai!?

I don't think anyone enjoys that.
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Re: Fast runners have shorter heels and longer toes
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2010, 05:34:20 pm »
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i don't even like 400m

Oh, no wai!?

I don't think anyone enjoys that.

tell me about it..plus my main and best event is 200m which is conveniently  after the 400m so i don't get as best as i could cuz i am tired

i ran 4 events every meet...400m was bad but try doing it again in the 4x400m..then you now the meaning of pain

if i had it my way i'd just do 100m, 4x100m, and 200m then maybe a 4x400m at the end