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kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« on: January 02, 2011, 12:29:17 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KaKs00yLsg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KaKs00yLsg</a>

anyone can embarrass anyone on a clear out one on one with space to operate.  this lil bitch definitely gets owned on defense by anyone with a post game and anyone taller than 5'7.

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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2011, 02:20:05 am »
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*confused*
why in the world would you hate on this kid?
We all know he's 5'7, dope handles and hops, he got serious game and he's still in HIGHSCHOOL.
Hasn't proven anything yet, he just shows some upside despite his height and people actually like that.

THAT'S ALL

He doesn't go on TV embarassing a whole state (live) and beat your fav team night in and out.
He's not on your team either(right?).

I don't give a rats ass if this guy doesn't play defense, I like watching his tapes, I'd rather be watching these tapes then watching no tapes at all from the guy just because he doesn't play D.
Also, posting footage from a pickup game where the dude is just having some fun is really not that convincing of an argument.

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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2011, 03:00:19 am »
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if someone throws the ball at my face on purpose, i don't care how good you are, we're boxing.  it shows no skill at all b/c the defender is never expecting it so it works 100% of the time and gets you no where.  And how many pick up games do you run where a ref is involved.  it isn't just any pickup game, its a serious scrimmage but the players decided to give up and just watch gardner.

lack of humility will not get you far.  Imari sawyer and dwyane wade are examples.  In HS, Imari sawyer was ranked #1 at one point in IL and top 10 in the nation, and dwyane wade was unheard of.  Today no one knows who sawyer is, and wade is a world champion.  Sawyer was often criticized for his lack of work ethic and off court stuff
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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2011, 03:49:32 am »
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if someone throws the ball at my face on purpose, i don't care how good you are, we're boxing.  it shows no skill at all b/c the defender is never expecting it so it works 100% of the time and gets you no where.  And how many pick up games do you run where a ref is involved.  it isn't just any pickup game, its a serious scrimmage but the players decided to give up and just watch gardner.

lack of humility will not get you far.  Imari sawyer and dwyane wade are examples.  In HS, Imari sawyer was ranked #1 at one point in IL and top 10 in the nation, and dwyane wade was unheard of.  Today no one knows who sawyer is, and wade is a world champion.  Sawyer was often criticized for his lack of work ethic and off court stuff

I don't like headpops either.
That said.

Where did it anything you posted thus far have anything to do the dude's work ethic?
posting a single video of a streetball move in a game noone is taking serious (clearly) does not justify your case for a lack of defence or work ethic one tiny bit.
Even if you'd make a mixtape of the dude being horrible on defense (which he probably isn't), I'd still like the guy for his offensive talents and creativity.
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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 12:24:23 am »
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lol @ the title of this thread, finally some real drama in the basketball subforum ;)

i agree that this clip of kiwi makes him look weak/lame, running around with your shirt off after you do some streetball shit for like 2 minutes straight.. looks trashy

BUT, dno what the vibe was of that game or what that defender possibly did to him during the game, who knows, it lacks context..

other than that, i've seen good clips of him on hoopmixtape/etc, kid looks like he puts in work so i'm not ready to shit on him over that clip.. it's going to be tough for him in college so he's going to have to work his ass off.

other than that, i absolutely hate headpops.. no one ever did one too me when i was actually a "basketball player", i definitely wouldn't let something like that slide now days either, that's crossing the line imo.. i'm a silent retaliator though, which is probably the worst kind.. i'd probably make it seem like i was cool with it, laugh it off, give him props, then when i have the ball, sneakily load up full force and launch a missile at his face, then do a quick drop step flying knee and try to get in at least 5 punches before we're broken up.

that's my plan as of right now.


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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 12:35:37 am »
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one time this guy who could dunk on 10ft played me..we played on a short rim 2on 2 .. some dude ally ooped it to me(in a game) and i slamed it on this dude...the whole gym went just like that, everything stopped, game, ppl watching, it was pretty funny...but that don't mean shit

same thing here, it does not mean a thing.. in a real game, they would double you up long ago...

i'm really wondering what the discussion is all about in the first place

funny vid.The end

UPDATE: btw this kid is fresh as hell and after watching some stuff, i see that he had the ball. So where are you coming from when you say he has no defense. They were just playing around.
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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 01:11:51 am »
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if someone throws the ball at my face on purpose, i don't care how good you are, we're boxing.  it shows no skill at all b/c the defender is never expecting it so it works 100% of the time and gets you no where.  And how many pick up games do you run where a ref is involved.  it isn't just any pickup game, its a serious scrimmage but the players decided to give up and just watch gardner.

lack of humility will not get you far.  Imari sawyer and dwyane wade are examples.  In HS, Imari sawyer was ranked #1 at one point in IL and top 10 in the nation, and dwyane wade was unheard of.  Today no one knows who sawyer is, and wade is a world champion.  Sawyer was often criticized for his lack of work ethic and off court stuff

I don't like headpops either.
That said.

Where did it anything you posted thus far have anything to do the dude's work ethic?
posting a single video of a streetball move in a game noone is taking serious (clearly) does not justify your case for a lack of defence or work ethic one tiny bit.
Even if you'd make a mixtape of the dude being horrible on defense (which he probably isn't), I'd still like the guy for his offensive talents and creativity.
Highschool ball, great young gun, potential, sweet, period.

Honestly, I just assumed the dude smokes pot (or be a pothead if he don't) b/c he looks like bob marley/ ricky williams and pot will de motivate you in due time.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 01:27:17 am by hyperdunk1 »
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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 12:54:59 am »
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The dude was playing horrible defense. Come on! Get low, hands up, shuffle those feet, bend at the knees not at your back! SHEESH! He deserved to get hit in the face with the ball. Haha.
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Re: kiwi gardner is a fag and plays no defense
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 10:05:57 am »
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The dude was playing horrible defense. Come on! Get low, hands up, shuffle those feet, bend at the knees not at your back! SHEESH! He deserved to get hit in the face with the ball. Haha.

yeah that was some crappy d, but i wouldn't want to play good d against crappy showboat AND1 offense.  AND1 crap doesn't deserve good defense.  because if you steal the ball or make a stop, then its "oh the sick move didn't work"  and if the move works against you then everyone's like "oh he just got played"
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