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Mid range sucks in pickup ball?
« on: December 12, 2017, 09:06:43 pm »
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Anyone else play pickup ball and find that mid range shots are really underpowered/undervalued? at my gym it's played mainly half court, and always 1's and 2's. the 3 point line is highschool regulation too, so at the top it overlaps with the semicircle that overlaps with the key. so the range isn't far at all, the average joe can probably consistently make shots from there. it'd be a different story though if my gym had the 3 point line at NCAA/NBA range though. but yea, when i play i see little incentive in taking mid range shots, cause if i go back a bit further i can get another point behind the 3 point line. would playing full court give more value to mid range shots though? also I know about scoring it by 2's and 3's, but nobody at the gym would be willing to do that lol.

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Re: Mid range sucks in pickup ball?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2017, 09:47:00 pm »
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mid-range shots suck at all levels of basketball, compared to post shots/layups and threes.
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Re: Mid range sucks in pickup ball?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 10:06:06 pm »
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haha yea.. seems like that is the case now esp. since the rise of the warriors. but kobe and MJ dominated with the mid range, right?

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Re: Mid range sucks in pickup ball?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2017, 10:08:17 pm »
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haha yea.. seems like that is the case now esp. since the rise of the warriors. but kobe and MJ dominated with the mid range, right?

sure, although kobe is overrated so not sure he's the best case to point to. but the midrange is just inefficient. it's math: gains you no more points than a shot closer to the rim, at a significantly lower likelihood of going in. threes are worth 50% more so the lower percentage of success is easily justified.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
wednesday: fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
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Re: Mid range sucks in pickup ball?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 10:19:33 pm »
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haha yea.. seems like that is the case now esp. since the rise of the warriors. but kobe and MJ dominated with the mid range, right?

sure, although kobe is overrated so not sure he's the best case to point to. but the midrange is just inefficient. it's math: gains you no more points than a shot closer to the rim, at a significantly lower likelihood of going in. threes are worth 50% more so the lower percentage of success is easily justified.

i see. yea, seems like the houston rockets have completely caught on to that lol. i wonder what could be done in the NBA to give more value to the midrange game.

but for us average joes, even if we are just average joes, it seems like the mid range is even more useless. with our 3 point lines being 4 feet shorter, worth 100% more, and playing in a half court setting, it seems like it's best just to chuck away beyond the arc lol
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