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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2019, 01:28:38 am »
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the talking point being pushed around lately seems to be "ZION is over weight, can't move, out of shape"

i mean... he looked like he was moving great in that game before he bruised his knee. :ninja:

I never know what level of bullshit meter to apply to the sports journalists in the US. Here in Aus there's about a 50/50 ratio so it's pretty easy. The market is that small that there's only a few journos who will go off the reservoir. From what I see though on ESPN and Undisputed, etc it could be 80/20 over there. Most of what I watch these days I write off completely.

ESPN is awful.. I like Jalen/Paul Pierce etc - ie real pros.. but Smith/Kellerman? awful.

basically, if a sports analyst "yells" and goes on some kind of loud preacher-like rant, they are full of shit. That's Smith, Kellerman, and a bunch of folks on ESPN. It's just theater.

As for ZION ... i dno. I don't see how him being 285, 300, or 265 has any affect on him taking a knee-to-knee collision. Being 285+ might take it's toll on him in an 82+ game season, but we don't have an idea yet. He was doing great in college before his shoe imploded. Would be great if he ends up being LEBRON-DURABLE in the NBA - tough to do tho.

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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2019, 09:57:53 am »
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Amen. The only non ex player with a decent analytical basketball mind? Chris Broussard. The rest are just spouting narratives.

FWIW I'm in the "Zion could stand to shed a few lbs"  camp. First he's NOT as lean as they make him to be. He could easily lose 10-12lbs without sacrificing strength and gaining explosiveness. Additionally a 82 game (+playoffs) season is physically taxing. I read once that the average guard/wing loses about 15lbs throughout the season. That's a significant amount of weight lose via cardio considering they have top flight nutritionist/dieticians and training staffs on hand 24/7. So anything to put less stress on his body would help. Hell, given the increase in game pace even LeBron looks like he's dropped a few lbs. The game is less physical and more speed now.

Granted... That also means he can use his strength to his advantage of played correctly.
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« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2019, 02:32:50 am »
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we all know the truth why these guys are getting injured so much. they dont do the proper lifts. many sports articles on how a strong quad and hamstring can protect knees some of these nba players do little more than resistance band or bodyweight squats, not much deadlifting, and wonder why they get injured... while they do a lot of upper lifting like db shoulder, db bench of up to 100 lb db's sometimes.

with good posterior chain strength to take the landing rather than knee ligaments and joints etc....
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Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2019, 04:40:20 am »
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Everyone should have known actually that clippers were up to something when Patrick Beverly of all people resigned with clippers taking 5million dollar pay cut or  along those lines. That was mind boggling and i thought hmmm maybe he just doesn't want to have to move to a new place but stil....

lol now we know why he wants a championship!
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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2019, 04:43:18 am »
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I really like the move putting lebron at point guard. its the position that he will do best at as he is older and its actually the position he's always wanted to play since he was a kid. tall point guards are always good in the nba because they can see over defenders and have length to get hte ball to a player.

it will definitely be interesting to see LAC vs LAL .... will probably be like fight night mike tyson kind of hype.

edit wow boogie is going to LA too and he is supposedly really pist off and working hard this summer....

all these guys were mentioned at one point in their careers as being "franchise players" -- lebron, ad,pg,boogie,kawhi. all in 1 city now and they have good role players too.
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« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2019, 10:59:32 am »
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on that note: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27125793/these-kids-ticking-bombs-threat-youth-basketball

yep, i def thought about it when i saw this article on espn too. i didnt think kids would have these issues but it makes sense with how much more bball exposure gets get nowadays and the aau etc. the whole "lifting stunts your growth" idea needs to be re-evaluated. is there even proof weight lifting stunts a person's growth pre adulthood?
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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2019, 10:59:00 am »
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basketball players (high school through college) lift now more than ever before.

70's, 80's, and 90's era basketball was some of the toughest around, hardly any of those guys lifted. all they did was hoop.

the "stunt your growth" & "it'll make you slow/tight" stuff was popular for their generations, it isn't now. weight rooms & facilities were hard to come by, now they are everywhere. every athletics program (especially in college) has s&c coaches who make their athletes lift.

lifts aren't magic.



we all know the truth why these guys are getting injured so much. they dont do the proper lifts.

no.

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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2019, 11:29:57 pm »
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ja morant.... he has game but how will the nba change him i dunno.... if he just stays the way he is he can be pretty good.... hes much better than that atl guy who can barly touch the rim lol....
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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2019, 09:28:12 am »
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I'm going to double down on a statement a said last year....

Ja will be the best player of this draft.

There I've said it again lol
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« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2019, 02:55:19 am »
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I'm going to double down on a statement a said last year....

Ja will be the best player of this draft.

There I've said it again lol

he's a baller but but hes like a grasshopper, weighs 20 lbs.....

i'm afraid nba going to make him top heavy from lifting and destroy his knees because no lower body fast twitch muscle gains....

right now he is well balanced between upper and lower body strength.

remember corey maggette from duke? naturally he was a beast. but as time went on in nba, he could barely even dunk cause he kept gaining upper body muscle while losing lowerbody muscle
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« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2019, 11:30:32 am »
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That was back in a more physical era were size mattered more. This era is speed and skill based moreso. He has all the skills to excel: great handle, explosive quickness, can shoot, can finish well with either hand, great vision/passing ability and, the kicker, he can ACTUALLY run the PNR coming out of college!!!! The only question is will he defend his position well and with his athleticism, that's more of a learning angles/strategy and having a want to play D.
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« Reply #87 on: July 21, 2019, 07:55:54 pm »
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Kyrie predictor: how will kyrie do next year?

something weird i noticed: kyrie always played well on long road trips or when the team had to camp out away for awhile. there always seemed to be a jump to his step on long away games.

at home however even with the momentum of the crowd he doesn't do comparably well. howcome?
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« Reply #88 on: July 22, 2019, 11:29:43 pm »
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celtics to the nba finals?

kemba might bring them there
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Re: NBA 2019 - 2020 Season
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2019, 05:17:03 am »
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corey maggette had more dunks in his tenth season than his first, despite playing basically the same number of games in each.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses