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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 06:58:16 pm »
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Yea, cause he didn't fight castillo again.

And Mayweather beat Marquez at 144. It's not like it was 147 or 150. You gotta stop kidding yourself.
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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 07:03:17 pm »
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Yea, cause he didn't fight castillo again.

And Mayweather beat Marquez at 144. It's not like it was 147 or 150. You gotta stop kidding yourself.

Ok since you were interested in reminding me of mayweather vs marquez.

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com.


Marquez, LIGHT WEIGHT, NEVER FOUGHT HEAVIER THAN 135, made 142, TWO LESS THEN THE STIPULATED WEIGHT.

Now look at that, mayweather went 2 lbs above the weight 146lbs, because he has money so doesn't mind wasting money, then there is marquez who never fought heavier 135 gets 2 less than the weight 144 lbs.

Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

"We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.

mayweather takes the weight very seriously he won't chose a weight he is doesn't naturally fight in.
no wonder mayweather beat marquez.
just pathetic.
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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 07:39:13 pm »
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Everyone moves up in weight eventually, and Marquez was fine fighting at welterweight against Pacquiao. Nobody in their right mind could think that Marquez is a better fighter than Mayweather. That's just ridiculous. Marquez hasn't had an impressive official win in 3 years.
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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2012, 08:59:16 am »
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Everyone moves up in weight eventually, and Marquez was fine fighting at welterweight against Pacquiao. Nobody in their right mind could think that Marquez is a better fighter than Mayweather. That's just ridiculous. Marquez hasn't had an impressive official win in 3 years.

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And Mayweather beat Marquez at 144. It's not like it was 147
it was 146, case closed  :P

secondly,
mayweather is comfortable fighting at 147-150lbs (that the zone he performs at his best) and 2lbs above is nothing for mayweather

thirdly
Pacquiao weighed in at 143 & Marquez weighed at 142

finally
marquez vs juan diaz who weighed 134 1/2 lbs lightweight, then in short amount of time to increase his weight to 144 which he only made 142, he is comfortable fighting at 135.

marquez vs michael katsidis who weighed 135lbs on november 2010
was given enough time to increase weight to 140lbs which is not that much till july 2011 and fought likar ramos who weighed 140lbs.
then finally since he has been fighting at around 140lbs it wasn't much difficult to increase to make 142 and face pacquiao who weighed 143, not much difference 142 and 143lbs
so marquez was in top shape and thrashed pacquiao no matter what the officials say.
therefore marquez looking stronger and faster. but since mayweather is a better counter puncher then marquez he would have proven marquez a challenge, but not too much that i know marquez will overcome mayweather's speed and come out with a win as he was very well dominating pacquiao.
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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2012, 02:16:10 pm »
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i typo'd on my prev post, i meant

1. martinez <- not marquez..



btw mayweather/cotto is appealing after cotto's last fight.. cotto looked really good, really fast, back to himself.

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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2012, 04:51:55 pm »
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And Mayweather beat Marquez at 144. It's not like it was 147
it was 146, case closed  :P

Marquez was fighting at 144. We're talking about how the weight was too much for him, not that it's right for mayweather.
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Re: Sergio Martinez Plan B after Pacquiao Plan A
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2012, 08:39:12 pm »
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And Mayweather beat Marquez at 144. It's not like it was 147
it was 146, case closed  :P

Marquez was fighting at 144. We're talking about how the weight was too much for him, not that it's right for mayweather.

seems like your jumping around. let me help you.

marquez was facing mayweather at 142, against mayweather who chose to go 2lbs past the catch weight of 144lbs. marquez moved straight up to 142lbs, therefore not in a comfortable state as the last fight was at 135.
therefore the jump was too much for him that he was not strong at that weight.

secondly when you saying that its' right for mayweather that was relating to your comment about mayweather using marquez's excuse, which he cannot as he is comfortable at that weight to face cotto.

therefore mayweather beat marquez at 146, with marquez at 142.
while when he faced pacquiao he was 142, fully ready because his previous match was 140lbs and pacquiao weighed 143lbs and he got his ass kicked.

he would the same to mayweather if mayweather was in pacquiao's shoes.
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