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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: April 21, 2016, 09:47:57 am »
Not a fan of baseball, as I don't understand anything out of it, but that looked pretty cool. I bet my mom would say "nice" and make a smilie face.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: April 21, 2016, 09:46:15 am »
It looks like you use a single arm swing coming up your right leg and a "somewhat double arm swing" coming off your left leg... I guess your body is just too much "forward" when you take off, that's the only thing I can see. Like you don't load the posterior chain too much because you stay too forward instead of letting yourself a bit on the back and "hip-popping". Oh well... I think my one leg jump of right now looks much uglier.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2016, 09:41:50 am »He stared up into the dewy sky now littered with stars, wiped his brow and psyched himself up for his next attempt. Like magic, his quads dishibited, his glutes engaged for the first time, propelling him across the ground in 3 long bounds, he had finally set a PR behind him. How did it happen and more importantly what could he do to repeat it? He had done the same thing over and over, a thousand times before. It was a random mutation which unlocked in him a movement efficiency never before seen. Never to be seen again, he grimaced, the lens of his camera had retracted, propped on 3 shaky legs sat unevenly in the unruly grass. NO would ever believe him and the recording had cut out just as he began the rep, recalling @adarqui who had told him to be aggressive and not take so long to begin. And he repeats the insanity, expecting this time things would be different, but not today.
I just told my psychiatrist this, and he prescribed me a whole bunch of medication. Like I needed any extra ones!
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: April 21, 2016, 08:24:10 am »
How much do you bend in the plant off one leg? In your standing vert you go so deep, yet you're bouncy off a running VJ off two legs. Hard to imagine how a one leg jump would look like.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: April 21, 2016, 08:15:40 am »
Have you tried, recently?
I can hear the answer without you saying anything: "No, and I don't plan to".
I can hear the answer without you saying anything: "No, and I don't plan to".
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: April 21, 2016, 07:57:16 am »
I wonder if you can dunk using that dodgeball off one leg right now.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2016, 07:13:21 am »
I've given up on my diet, too. Tried it for 1 day and didn't see any effects.
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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Spot reduction may actually be possible?
« on: April 21, 2016, 03:44:48 am »
See why this thread is so important?!
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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Spot reduction may actually be possible?
« on: April 21, 2016, 03:19:13 am »Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams
Nobody is objecting to that distribution.
Actually Dreyth was saying abdominal fat is troublesome for women but their body will burn that off preferentially so there's no point even trying to spot reduce because fat will come off there easily/immediately. Blood flow is good there compared to hips/thighs etc. But women shudnt even store fat there in the first place.. it takes a lot of bad eating, lack of activity and drinking alcohol to accumulate fat there :/
Anecdotally .. i found if i start playing bball regularly after a layoff, my body does use stomach bodyfat preferentially even if i'm not consciously dieting. just my experience, not sure why that happens.
What I meant is, I like big butts.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 21, 2016, 03:07:57 am »
Hm... yeah I guess the goblet squats can help make the glutes fire better in the high bar squat... something to think about.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 21, 2016, 03:00:08 am »
We can go even further into our over-analyzing craziness:
Say we take a 300 lbs guy that squats 600 lbs and he also is jumping.
Say somehow we're making him to be 200 lbs and squatting 400 lbs over night. Let's also assume he loses the same percentage of muscle from all places, so his mechanics/bodyweight distribution are not modified.
How would his structural factors play in at that moment? Now we're ignoring completely the muscular and power aspects, and we're thinking about his tendons etc, his reactivity? How much better would he move and jump and respond to ground contacts, having tendons that are accustomed to a very heavy bodyweight and being conditioned in that way?
I bet he would become extremely reactive and his ground contact times would be lower, despite having the same power to bodyweight ratio.
Say we take a 300 lbs guy that squats 600 lbs and he also is jumping.
Say somehow we're making him to be 200 lbs and squatting 400 lbs over night. Let's also assume he loses the same percentage of muscle from all places, so his mechanics/bodyweight distribution are not modified.
How would his structural factors play in at that moment? Now we're ignoring completely the muscular and power aspects, and we're thinking about his tendons etc, his reactivity? How much better would he move and jump and respond to ground contacts, having tendons that are accustomed to a very heavy bodyweight and being conditioned in that way?
I bet he would become extremely reactive and his ground contact times would be lower, despite having the same power to bodyweight ratio.
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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Spot reduction may actually be possible?
« on: April 21, 2016, 02:48:49 am »Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams
Nobody is objecting to that distribution.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 20, 2016, 04:41:06 pm »
Absolutely. For the standing vertical jump, things are easier, meaning, the 300 lbs guy might have an easier time being at the same level as the 150 lbs guy. More about voluntary power than anything else. Maybe the speed of the movement/reversal of the jump would differ due to the added momentum of the extra weight, but even then, mathematically, they should pretty much be the same. I don't see why they would be different. Maybe all the extra things we've talked about above would still apply (there's still some G-forces occuring during the reversal) but the percentage that these factors are important are far less in the case of the standing vertical jump.
Also, and this might be interesting, maybe there's a certain threshold of "mass" certain muscles have.
Maybe if you take one guy at 150 lbs that squats 300 lbs, and get him to be 300 lbs and squat 600 lbs, his muscular distribution changes and his mechanics change. Maybe when he was 150 lbs and squatted 300, his quads weighed 30 lbs and his glutes weighed 50 lbs. Now, at 300 lbs, his quads weigh 80 lbs and his glutes weigh 100 lbs. Or it might be that his quads weigh 50 lbs and his glutes weigh 150 lbs. Who knows, right? They grew differently, and promote different mechanics. They have different strength ratios now, because the shape, the amount of muscle fibers, motor neurons etc in each muscle is different and has a different potential for growth.
So it's not that easy. But assuming everything is equal, which is not, in real life, then I don't see any mathematical undertaking that would make the 150/300 guy not jump exactly as high as the 300/600 guy.
Also, and this might be interesting, maybe there's a certain threshold of "mass" certain muscles have.
Maybe if you take one guy at 150 lbs that squats 300 lbs, and get him to be 300 lbs and squat 600 lbs, his muscular distribution changes and his mechanics change. Maybe when he was 150 lbs and squatted 300, his quads weighed 30 lbs and his glutes weighed 50 lbs. Now, at 300 lbs, his quads weigh 80 lbs and his glutes weigh 100 lbs. Or it might be that his quads weigh 50 lbs and his glutes weigh 150 lbs. Who knows, right? They grew differently, and promote different mechanics. They have different strength ratios now, because the shape, the amount of muscle fibers, motor neurons etc in each muscle is different and has a different potential for growth.
So it's not that easy. But assuming everything is equal, which is not, in real life, then I don't see any mathematical undertaking that would make the 150/300 guy not jump exactly as high as the 300/600 guy.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:14:46 pm »
I think we need to go to the extremes here to make a point. Ask it another way:
Athlete A is 300 lbs in BW, squats 600
Athlete B is 150 lbs in BW, squats 300
Both have the same ratio, structure, CNS etc. Who jumps higher? I would say the 150 lbs one, because it takes less effort to change direction at that weight and there are other things like, again, the absolute force that you can transmit through connective tissues that is important too. These things are being monitored by the CNS all the time for safety reasons (mechanoreceptors, proprioceptors etc).
So imagine the 150 lbs guy going for a high speed jump with a let's say 8G plant.
That's 8Gx150 lbs = a 1200 lbs force in the amortization phase that is transmitted through the skeleton.
Athlete B tries the same thing, at the same speed, and gets himself the same 8G plant. His skeleton, connective tissues, tendons etc need to deal with 8Gx300 lbs = a 2400 lbs force in the amortization phase.
So Athlete's B connective tissues need to sustain a tremendous amount of pressure and tension without the CNS raising red flags for safety reasons that they might break, regardless of the fact that they both squat the same 2x and muscularily produce the same amount of force/eccentric force etc.
It's like taking a tractor and trying to make it a race car. Sure, you might design an engine capable of revving and pulling the tractor at a racecar pace, but the joints of the car themselves, the materials themselves, the wheels, the articulations, the suspensions etc would just fail at those extreme tensions and forces being applied at that weight.
And if the tractor has a very good computer that senses all that, the computer will shut down the power to prevent the tractor from breaking down.
In my opinion, that's what's going on with the bodyweight in a human when jumping, that's how it acts.
And it's even trickier than that - we are looking at squatting here. But usually we increase our squat and bodyweight (say we keep the same ratio) but the calves don't get that much stronger. And then the calves, which don't grow as fast/strong, remain behind with the squat going up. That changes the mechanics/overloading of the jump, making the quads do the breaking more, which makes you more quad-bound, which makes you increase the knee bend more, deactivates the hamstrings more, the angles are different and on and on and on.
So it's more complicated than simple numbers here.
Athlete A is 300 lbs in BW, squats 600
Athlete B is 150 lbs in BW, squats 300
Both have the same ratio, structure, CNS etc. Who jumps higher? I would say the 150 lbs one, because it takes less effort to change direction at that weight and there are other things like, again, the absolute force that you can transmit through connective tissues that is important too. These things are being monitored by the CNS all the time for safety reasons (mechanoreceptors, proprioceptors etc).
So imagine the 150 lbs guy going for a high speed jump with a let's say 8G plant.
That's 8Gx150 lbs = a 1200 lbs force in the amortization phase that is transmitted through the skeleton.
Athlete B tries the same thing, at the same speed, and gets himself the same 8G plant. His skeleton, connective tissues, tendons etc need to deal with 8Gx300 lbs = a 2400 lbs force in the amortization phase.
So Athlete's B connective tissues need to sustain a tremendous amount of pressure and tension without the CNS raising red flags for safety reasons that they might break, regardless of the fact that they both squat the same 2x and muscularily produce the same amount of force/eccentric force etc.
It's like taking a tractor and trying to make it a race car. Sure, you might design an engine capable of revving and pulling the tractor at a racecar pace, but the joints of the car themselves, the materials themselves, the wheels, the articulations, the suspensions etc would just fail at those extreme tensions and forces being applied at that weight.
And if the tractor has a very good computer that senses all that, the computer will shut down the power to prevent the tractor from breaking down.
In my opinion, that's what's going on with the bodyweight in a human when jumping, that's how it acts.
And it's even trickier than that - we are looking at squatting here. But usually we increase our squat and bodyweight (say we keep the same ratio) but the calves don't get that much stronger. And then the calves, which don't grow as fast/strong, remain behind with the squat going up. That changes the mechanics/overloading of the jump, making the quads do the breaking more, which makes you more quad-bound, which makes you increase the knee bend more, deactivates the hamstrings more, the angles are different and on and on and on.
So it's more complicated than simple numbers here.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 20, 2016, 12:23:03 pm »
I have personally found out that how much the arms are straight (or the elbow bent) matters quite a bit in jumps, of any kind. I usually like to arm swing with arms almost straight, off two legs, and that overwhelms my plant and I can't recover from that. The momentum of the arms being kept straight puts so much force into my legs that they collapse.
If I keep my elbows bent, or twist my arms to the side (like simulating an airplane) with arms straight, it's easier to recover and jump, as I plant. But I guess that's just because I'm too weak to deal with the added power straight arm swings put into my legs.
Also, a jump with the arms a little bent is quicker - to pendulate the arms around your body as they are straight takes quite some time and increases the ground contact time, from what I have personally seen in me and other people I trained with.
If I keep my elbows bent, or twist my arms to the side (like simulating an airplane) with arms straight, it's easier to recover and jump, as I plant. But I guess that's just because I'm too weak to deal with the added power straight arm swings put into my legs.
Also, a jump with the arms a little bent is quicker - to pendulate the arms around your body as they are straight takes quite some time and increases the ground contact time, from what I have personally seen in me and other people I trained with.