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In my newly posted video, stop it at :57. The blurry blue container with the pillow on top contains my workout equipment. Everything inside it can be purchased at Walmart.

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came across a Youtube comment  :derp:



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Jordan Kilganon
7 years ago
Thank Youuu, lol I don't really workout to gain vert, but I have tried squatting. I can only do about 1.2 times my weight, and my vert is at abot 46 running. I dunk every single day, my body has gotten used to it so I am increasing vertical this way after giving myself two days rest. With that in mind, think I should still try regularely working out for my legs?
I looked up his standing reach and it is 8' 1" being 6' 1" tall. I'm 6' even and his reach is 3.5 inches higher than mine! He must have long arms.

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Weight loss down to 244.6 lbs since starting this thread weighing 249.8 lbs.

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Just found this article on vertical leap and here is the age related vertical leap levels.
The link is here:   http://www.homeexerciseequipmenthq.com/average-vertical-jump/


Vertical Leap by Age

When it comes to the human body, one thing that everyone goes through is aging. With age, things change, including how our muscles perform. During our younger years, they are still developing all the way until we get to our 20’s and until just past 30 years old.

After that, the development stops and starts to go the other way.

The changes in our bodies muscles also show in average leaping ability as we age. During the younger years we develop and then start slowing down.

The chart below shows the average vertical leap by age for men.
        Age   Average Vertical       
      18 to 20 years old   19.5 inches      
      20 to 29 years old   20 inches      
      30 to 39 years old   17 inches      
      40 to 49 years old   14 inches      
      50 to 59 years old   11 inches

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there are no secrets in the world of jumping.
If you look around, a lot of the Pro Dunkers lift weights - how much force you put into the ground is helped by having larger and stronger legs and hips, if your not born with them naturally

If you think about throwing an object as heavy as your body into the air, how would you improve that ability?
Easy, get a lot stronger so the body is relatively easy to fling around.
For the same reasons shotputters build a big bench press, yet the human body is far heavier than a shotput!

If you have to buy a product, I would recommend Vertical Jump Bible by Kelly Baggett.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQy0ont5Pk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQy0ont5Pk</a>
Thank you for your comment, and being civil with it. I appreciate you didn't mock me or anything like that.

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Is this real?, or a scam? If it was real, wouldn't everybody be doing it?

https://www.vertshock.com/

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Anybody on this site purchase "The Mythbuster" (Jordan Kilgannon) tutorial on jumping higher? Just curious.

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I've done my exercise for 15 minutes for 2 days now and I am feeling really good. Both my physical and mental well being have improved. Tomorrow, if it's not raining, I'm going to walk to my nearby playground court and measure the rim height and the distance between my standing reach and the rim. I'll take my recently purchased basketball and shoot some hoops. Last time I played a game of ball with friends was sometime around 1993.

I will reveal a reason why I am overweight. I developed a serious health problem in 1987, and the med to treat it causes weight gain. When I started taking the med, I was a muscular 185 lbs. I used to lift weights. By 2005, my weight was 285 lbs. The heaviest I've ever weighed. The med has to be taken for the rest of my life, so I am fighting the side affect of weight gain as I try to lose and get into better shape. I would love to get down to 200 lbs if possible. I've been below 250 lbs for the last 3 days now. So progress is being made.

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Could someone please explain how to add a respect point to another persons comment? I can't find out how to do that. Thank you.

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fascinating. seems unlikely that you have unlocked a secret to jump training that went undiscovered or undeveloped by generations of professionals, and i'd say that it's impossible to get really good at jumping without, well, jumping, but who knows? i hope you're right. if you figure out how to dunk at 60 years of age, with your current state being "unable to jump 12 inches without hurting knees," then hell yeah i'd consider that valuable.

in any case, good work on losing all that weight so far and good luck on continuing to get in shape.

side note: it's funny that you'd point to karl malone, who had a 28" standing vertical (i.e. ~4" worse than mine when i was training for it; i am not a super athlete) and wasn't exactly known as an above-the-rim player. whatever training he did worked for him like gangbusters.


I'll try and see if it works. I worked out for 15 minutes today and it felt good. Much easier on the knees. In fact, so easy, I may try it every day instead of Monday, then Wendesday, then Friday. My theory about the method I am employing is based on logic that persons with exercise science degree's already know how to it, but do not recognize it. I have a friend who has that degree from OSU and am thinking about asking her if she agreed to keep my explanation confidential, I would tell her what I do and ask her thoughts about it. It is so stupidly simple, I could explain it in a few sentences, and the logic of it would be perfectly clear. This is why I will not reveal any info that may give it away, it is so simple to understand. Just to repeat. I am only doing one exercise, and it only takes 15 minutes to do. No upper body exercise at all, and no jumping at all.

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My current hand spread. Right hand, 9.25 inches. Left hand 9.0 inches. I'll try my hand spreader everyday for a few months and see what happens. Unable to post photo as file size limit is exceeded.

why do u need hand stretcher. 9 inches is huge hands. i have 7 in length hands that are similar to woman size hands and i can ball just fine with D1 competition.

and i dont see how that can POSSIBLY work and make your hands bigger.
Article about importance of hand spread in the NFL.   https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2014/02/nfl_combine_how_do_you_measure.html

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My current hand spread. Right hand, 9.25 inches. Left hand 9.0 inches. I'll try my hand spreader everyday for a few months and see what happens. Unable to post photo as file size limit is exceeded.

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Hi LBSS

I'm wanting to get back into shape to play some basketball. Also, I had a former neighbor who was older than me, but she was so obese she could hardly walk and had to use one of those walkers to hold on to, to help her walk and not fall down. Her age was probably late 60's. I need to lose weight so as not to end up like her.

But there is more. I scoured the internet for articles on increasing vertical leap. I'm not disputing that those methods don't work, but many of those exercises that involve jumping like weighted squat jumps, box jumps etc.. These exercises are hard on the knees. I have developed a theory about how one simple exercise that does not  involve your feet leaving the floor, (like jumping hard 200 times a day). I searched the internet to see if anyone else has published an exercise like I just started doing, but I could not find anything like it. I will not reveal what the simple exercise is, because the exercise only takes about 15 minutes to do, and you do it 3 times a week. If my theory works and I can increase my vertical to be able to dunk on a 10 foot rim at 60 years of age, within one year of starting this exercise, would you consider that something extremely valuable?

I recently found an article from 1987 describing Karl Malone's strength training program. https://www.si.com/vault/1987/11/09/116554/lets-get-physical-finesse-is-taking-a-backseat-as-teams-vie-with-each-other-to-get-the-big-bangers-who-can-tough-it-out-under-the-basket    The article stated he lifted weights for 4 hours a day. I am not dissing him as a respected Hall of Fame player. But was his success on the basketball court due to weight lifting 4 hours a day? I don't think so. He could have lifted weights one hour a day and still be a Hall of Fame player. Did his lifting program get him a 45 inch vertical leap? No.

I am looking to disprove the notion that extreme exercise efforts is required to develop a high vertical leap. I'm going to video record everything I do and date stamp when it was recorded. Most of the video's will remain private. I will make public, video's of my weight loss at first. And later when I lose enough weight to jump higher, (as I am right now too heavy to do jumping) I will post those video's public.

If it doesn't work and I'm wrong, then I guess I'll fade away and disappear in time.

Sorry for the long post. Thank you for asking that question.

Let me add that my weight loss efforts are paying off. I've lost some 28 lbs since mid August.

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Hi all,
I'm Russell. I found this forum a week ago or so from searching articles/videos on how to increase vertical leap. I am posting a public video to show I'm not lying about things and future video's will document my progress. Due to my weight, I tried a vertical leap in my apartment, and upon landing, it hurt. I'm guessing my vertical leap is about 12 inches now. When I played playground basketball in the 1980's and early 90's my vertical was somewhere around 31 to 33 inches. I was just about 1/2 inch shy of being able to dunk on a 10 foot rim. I could dunk on a 9' 11" rim though.

Here's the link to my video's of my start to improve my health, and my invention of a hand spread stretcher.

https://youtu.be/oHjt3MDpSn0

https://youtu.be/8JtQiu4PHqE

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Me and my invention
« on: December 08, 2019, 01:56:19 am »
I just joined this forum a few days ago and am making this intro posting. I'm 6 feet tall even. I forgot to mention that in the video. I use to play playground basketball back in the 1980's and early 90's until health problems forced me to stop playing. I just bought a cheap basketball today and may get some exercise just shooting hoops and running after the ball at a nearby playground.

I invented something that may interest a lot of you. I couldn't find anything like it on the internet, so I made one myself. It's a "hand spread stretcher". Bought the Velcro strips at Walmart.

https://youtu.be/8JtQiu4PHqE

Russ

cool Russ, thanks for sharing!

i personally wouldn't use something like that for a few reasons:
1. just don't think it would be more effective than "manual" hand stretching - and i don't know if manual hand stretching would help much
2. i feel like palming exercises with an actual ball (or slightly smaller etc), would be more effective
3. i also feel like general hand strength exercises would be more effective (pinch grip training for example), to just improve overall finger strength/dexterity

that said, i'm sure people would try it though.

also, your hand looks enormous in that video, lmao. could just be the camera angle/distortion though. :ninja:

peace man & welcome!
Thanks adarqui. I will measure my right hand spread sometime today and post a pic with a tape measure to show it's size and then try my stretcher for a few months and then measure again to see what happens. You are correct about just practice palming a basketball. I played ball right handed, and due to that, my right hand spread is wider than my left hand even though I haven't played ball since about 1993.

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