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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2011, 08:44:28 pm »
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Yeah, weird... does he have that huge squat anymore? Guess he does.
I never really had a big squat, at least in internet terms, I have always been below 2xbw. As I have progressed I have really changed my squat form and depth so that now I feel as though I am pretty solid. For myself, the change from 2" above to parallel or below really affected my squat #'s. Also, sitting back into my squat has allowed me to feel the correct muscles firing but it decreased my poundages as well.

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2011, 03:41:12 pm »
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 That is some BIG progress man, saw this old video linked by your newer ones, props man.  And yea, the poundage doesnt mean anything if it doesnt carry over to performance for you, so finding a squat style that carried over more to your jump is always a good idea. Definitely looks like youre using your hips much more in your more recent jumps.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKwAURxgJ_Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKwAURxgJ_Y</a>






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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 06:06:38 pm »
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Definitely looks like youre using your hips much more in your more recent jumps.

Taking shots at Andrew now aren't we? tsk tsk :P ;D

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2011, 07:54:08 pm »
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Definitely looks like youre using your hips much more in your more recent jumps.

Taking shots at Andrew now aren't we? tsk tsk :P ;D

uhh, wtf are you talking about?? :uhhhfacepalm:
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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2011, 07:30:54 am »
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Definitely looks like youre using your hips much more in your more recent jumps.

Taking shots at Andrew now aren't we? tsk tsk :P ;D

uhh, wtf are you talking about?? :uhhhfacepalm:

You know, more hips, less quads... ;D

I still hold my thought that he could jump better with more hip involvement, even with his build.

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2011, 05:24:39 pm »
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is that the difference in using your glutes/hams when u jump versus. relying pretty much all on quads and calves?

that second video the jump looked so fluid and powerful 10x better than the jumps in the first vid.  I jump like he jumps in the first video, that mean if i can get myself to using more of my hips when i jump it will look more like his jump in the second vid or is that a lot of technique/form also

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2011, 01:31:29 am »
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is that the difference in using your glutes/hams when u jump versus. relying pretty much all on quads and calves?

that second video the jump looked so fluid and powerful 10x better than the jumps in the first vid.  I jump like he jumps in the first video, that mean if i can get myself to using more of my hips when i jump it will look more like his jump in the second vid or is that a lot of technique/form also
it is some of both to be sure, I have tried to change my lifting technique so that the hips would be the prime movers rather than mostly quads. Also, I have actively tried to use my hips more in my jumps. As you can see it has helped my vert, but it also has helped to eliminate my shin splints and knee pain. My overly quad dominant early movements created a lot of stress. There could be other factors for the increase in vert and decrease in pains, but imo the change in movement pattern has played a big role.

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2011, 02:24:45 am »
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here is my progress from project vertical <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm0WLDKe9WQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm0WLDKe9WQ</a>

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2011, 05:13:07 am »
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insane progress man, why do you think this stuff is working so well?  is their one thing that you can point to and say , yea this is helping me a ton?

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2011, 01:10:37 pm »
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The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2011, 03:31:55 pm »
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The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.

Translation:

Buy the program I endorse.

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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2011, 11:15:59 pm »
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The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.

Translation:

Buy the program I endorse.
isnt this thread for people that have used a program to post in, stating whether or not they saw gains? because I recomend a product that worked for me, i have some hidden agenda? I dont want to be to specific about what is in the program because I dont think that is fair to Tyler, since he is trying to make a living off of it. But I guess that in its self is the real issue. We all know that there isn't some magical exercise in this program or anyother for that matter, that is going to give you instant inches. In fact if you learn enough and do your research you can make an effective training program for free. But most people either dont have the time or they are just not interested in doing so, for them and for many others purchasing a program is the way to go. Having been someone that has purchased and used many programs along the way, i feel i can help guide these people towards solid programs that will get them real results (with proper work ethic).

Instead of doing so, myself and many others that have been down this path and actually achieved results dont go and spread our ideas on these types of forums because the internet know it alls are on patrol to discredit anyone with an opinion other than their own. Btw, this isnt meant as a shot against most, as I have respect for many of the posters on here. The coaches and trainees that share their info for free are here to help us all, some of the other people should quit worring so much about their post count and just learn from the people that know what they are talking about.

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2011, 05:00:26 am »
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The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.

Translation:

Buy the program I endorse.
isnt this thread for people that have used a program to post in, stating whether or not they saw gains? because I recomend a product that worked for me, i have some hidden agenda? I dont want to be to specific about what is in the program because I dont think that is fair to Tyler, since he is trying to make a living off of it. But I guess that in its self is the real issue. We all know that there isn't some magical exercise in this program or anyother for that matter, that is going to give you instant inches. In fact if you learn enough and do your research you can make an effective training program for free. But most people either dont have the time or they are just not interested in doing so, for them and for many others purchasing a program is the way to go. Having been someone that has purchased and used many programs along the way, i feel i can help guide these people towards solid programs that will get them real results (with proper work ethic).

Instead of doing so, myself and many others that have been down this path and actually achieved results dont go and spread our ideas on these types of forums because the internet know it alls are on patrol to discredit anyone with an opinion other than their own. Btw, this isnt meant as a shot against most, as I have respect for many of the posters on here. The coaches and trainees that share their info for free are here to help us all, some of the other people should quit worring so much about their post count and just learn from the people that know what they are talking about.

What I meant was - instead of answering in a shady manner (basically not answering at all) you could've answer with say an exercise that you thought it helped you.

Say you were doing weighed planks and you felt that helped you. You could've said "Well, using weighed planks I think made a big difference". You didn't have to tell the time per set, how many reps, what weight, you know, the specifics, but it would've been a much better answer than saying "I'm better because I'm better, buy the program if you want to find out how".

You should take a look at how Kelly responds. He never really says stuff that's in his programs per se, but he does answer with a helpful example on how things can be done. That's what I like the most about Kelly.

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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2011, 05:08:49 am »
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The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.

Translation:

Buy the program I endorse.
isnt this thread for people that have used a program to post in, stating whether or not they saw gains? because I recomend a product that worked for me, i have some hidden agenda? I dont want to be to specific about what is in the program because I dont think that is fair to Tyler, since he is trying to make a living off of it. But I guess that in its self is the real issue. We all know that there isn't some magical exercise in this program or anyother for that matter, that is going to give you instant inches. In fact if you learn enough and do your research you can make an effective training program for free. But most people either dont have the time or they are just not interested in doing so, for them and for many others purchasing a program is the way to go. Having been someone that has purchased and used many programs along the way, i feel i can help guide these people towards solid programs that will get them real results (with proper work ethic).

Instead of doing so, myself and many others that have been down this path and actually achieved results dont go and spread our ideas on these types of forums because the internet know it alls are on patrol to discredit anyone with an opinion other than their own. Btw, this isnt meant as a shot against most, as I have respect for many of the posters on here. The coaches and trainees that share their info for free are here to help us all, some of the other people should quit worring so much about their post count and just learn from the people that know what they are talking about.

What I meant was - instead of answering in a shady manner (basically not answering at all) you could've answer with say an exercise that you thought it helped you.

Say you were doing weighed planks and you felt that helped you. You could've said "Well, using weighed planks I think made a big difference". You didn't have to tell the time per set, how many reps, what weight, you know, the specifics, but it would've been a much better answer than saying "I'm better because I'm better, buy the program if you want to find out how".

You should take a look at how Kelly responds. He never really says stuff that's in his programs per se, but he does answer with a helpful example on how things can be done. That's what I like the most about Kelly.


what are you talking about man? lol, he answered TWICE< he said hes 1. using his hips more, in his lifts and his jumps, and 2. hes emphasizing core stability (anti rotation if u need it in crayon) and activation.

  Thats a pretty damn detailed answer without listing out sets, reps, and weight for you.  He couldve easily said "this program is INSANE, u have to see it, its SOOO different" and not said anything about what he noticed was different, but instead he gave a legit answer, of the EXACT things HE FELT helped him.  

and props on the progress cskin, know youve been working very hard for it.
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Re: Project Vertical
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2011, 08:30:12 am »
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The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.

Translation:

Buy the program I endorse.
isnt this thread for people that have used a program to post in, stating whether or not they saw gains? because I recomend a product that worked for me, i have some hidden agenda? I dont want to be to specific about what is in the program because I dont think that is fair to Tyler, since he is trying to make a living off of it. But I guess that in its self is the real issue. We all know that there isn't some magical exercise in this program or anyother for that matter, that is going to give you instant inches. In fact if you learn enough and do your research you can make an effective training program for free. But most people either dont have the time or they are just not interested in doing so, for them and for many others purchasing a program is the way to go. Having been someone that has purchased and used many programs along the way, i feel i can help guide these people towards solid programs that will get them real results (with proper work ethic).

Instead of doing so, myself and many others that have been down this path and actually achieved results dont go and spread our ideas on these types of forums because the internet know it alls are on patrol to discredit anyone with an opinion other than their own. Btw, this isnt meant as a shot against most, as I have respect for many of the posters on here. The coaches and trainees that share their info for free are here to help us all, some of the other people should quit worring so much about their post count and just learn from the people that know what they are talking about.

What I meant was - instead of answering in a shady manner (basically not answering at all) you could've answer with say an exercise that you thought it helped you.

Say you were doing weighed planks and you felt that helped you. You could've said "Well, using weighed planks I think made a big difference". You didn't have to tell the time per set, how many reps, what weight, you know, the specifics, but it would've been a much better answer than saying "I'm better because I'm better, buy the program if you want to find out how".

You should take a look at how Kelly responds. He never really says stuff that's in his programs per se, but he does answer with a helpful example on how things can be done. That's what I like the most about Kelly.


what are you talking about man? lol, he answered TWICE< he said hes 1. using his hips more, in his lifts and his jumps, and 2. hes emphasizing core stability (anti rotation if u need it in crayon) and activation.

  Thats a pretty damn detailed answer without listing out sets, reps, and weight for you.  He couldve easily said "this program is INSANE, u have to see it, its SOOO different" and not said anything about what he noticed was different, but instead he gave a legit answer, of the EXACT things HE FELT helped him.  

and props on the progress cskin, know youve been working very hard for it.

"Emphasis on core stability and activation" could mean many things. It depends on how each of us understand the words "stability" and "activation". These are loose terms.

That's like me saying "I put emphasis on getting stronger legs". That could mean anything.