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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 02:38:03 am »
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So has it turned into a cutting game for Scoob now... To get those last couple of inches

nope. wrist on the rim on a max jump without the ball is not going to cut it specially with those tiny hands. its going to look like rip's dunk attempts but a few inches lower.

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Agree with u Kingf, i do have tiny hands not able to palm a ball,
so how many inches additional, do u think i should be aiming at?
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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2013, 05:13:07 pm »
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So has it turned into a cutting game for Scoob now... To get those last couple of inches

nope. wrist on the rim on a max jump without the ball is not going to cut it specially with those tiny hands. its going to look like rip's dunk attempts but a few inches lower.

 :trollface:

Agree with u Kingf, i do have tiny hands not able to palm a ball,
so how many inches additional, do u think i should be aiming at?

your single hand reach at 89" is ~ my double hand reach of 90". here is  a clean dunk
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSq-YOYOmw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSq-YOYOmw</a>

128-89 = 39" Jump without ball = 40"+ with ball

i'm at 445/170lb BW peak at this time, usually in the mid 170s with a routine 425-440lb paused squat.

the vertical jump becomes exponentially harder to improve after you get to the mid 30s"..

sorry buddy, your max 370lb is not going to cut it.  you got a lot more steaks and eggs to eat.



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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2013, 09:27:49 pm »
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your single hand reach at 89" is ~ my double hand reach of 90". here is  a clean dunk
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSq-YOYOmw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSq-YOYOmw</a>

128-89 = 39" Jump without ball = 40"+ with ball

i'm at 445/170lb BW peak at this time, usually in the mid 170s with a routine 425-440lb paused squat.

the vertical jump becomes exponentially harder to improve after you get to the mid 30s"..

sorry buddy, your max 370lb is not going to cut it.  you got a lot more steaks and eggs to eat.


I am hearing you, did a 367lbs squat easily yesterday, and go right to a 399 where I failed.
U mentioned 440lbs PausedSquat, that is quite extreme man.

Able to do 440Paused probably mean u can squat 500lb with out pause? and RAW?
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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2013, 07:10:46 am »
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It doesn't work that way. Usually, being able to do paused squats well doesn't mean you're going to use a much higher weight doing squats without a pause.

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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2013, 06:01:33 pm »
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I am hearing you, did a 367lbs squat easily yesterday, and go right to a 399 where I failed.
U mentioned 440lbs PausedSquat, that is quite extreme man.

Able to do 440Paused probably mean u can squat 500lb with out pause? and RAW?

i use the paused squat to build strength while using the least amount of weight that will still get the job done.

no need to bounce with near max weight on the squat to strengthen the connective tissues. i have jump squats and plyos for that.

build max strength with the least amount of resistance that gets the job done. wraps, belts, suits doesn't fit that. 

It doesn't work that way. Usually, being able to do paused squats well doesn't mean you're going to use a much higher weight doing squats without a pause.

i get at least +20-30lbs if i don't kill the momentum.
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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2013, 06:48:33 pm »
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i get at least +20-30lbs if i don't kill the momentum.

When is the last time you tried it?

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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2013, 12:36:00 am »
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i just went to  to do a weight N body fat check (GRIP checker)
179lb 13.6% body fat for upperbody

not bad not bad!!! but cant compare to KingF at all
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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2013, 12:48:17 am »
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i just went to  to do a weight N body fat check (GRIP checker)
179lb 13.6% body fat for upperbody

not bad not bad!!! but cant compare to KingF at all

Meaningless. Those things are notoriously unreliable, they have an error of ±10%. You couldn't have picked a worse method of testing bodyfat. Go get a dunk test or a DEXA scan. If you can't do those, get waist measurement and 7 site caliper readings.  Actually none of these methods will help you much because they won't be the true value either. They're all approximations. The solution will be the same regardless of the results. Lose 5 pounds. Post another pic. Lean enough to be clearly 10%? If yes, stop. If no, repeat the whole process again: lose another 5 pounds, post a pic.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2013, 02:04:41 am by entropy »
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2013, 05:44:24 am »
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Talk about not accurate. Did the Weight scale test today.

The upper Grip test show 13.8%
and the the Weight scale test show 17.6%

average.... 15.7% + or - 10% is still on the high side..
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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2013, 12:18:52 pm »
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Talk about not accurate. Did the Weight scale test today.

The upper Grip test show 13.8%
and the the Weight scale test show 17.6%

average.... 15.7% + or - 10% is still on the high side..

Still flat-out ignoring advice I see. You can measure your body fat in 100 different ways and the answer will be the same: you have fat to lose!

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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2013, 12:48:52 pm »
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Talk about not accurate. Did the Weight scale test today.

The upper Grip test show 13.8%
and the the Weight scale test show 17.6%

average.... 15.7% + or - 10% is still on the high side..

Still flat-out ignoring advice I see. You can measure your body fat in 100 different ways and the answer will be the same: you have fat to lose!

"is still on the high side"

He admits right there that he has fat to lose.
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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2013, 12:25:39 am »
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Talk about not accurate. Did the Weight scale test today.

The upper Grip test show 13.8%
and the the Weight scale test show 17.6%

average.... 15.7% + or - 10% is still on the high side..

Still flat-out ignoring advice I see. You can measure your body fat in 100 different ways and the answer will be the same: you have fat to lose!

"is still on the high side"

He admits right there that he has fat to lose.

Yes but he is basing that on the average of two methods of measuring bf% which, as already stated, are unreliable and can give completely different results. If the weight scale had come back with 7.6% instead of 17.6% he'd probably be saying something different. Entropy already told him what he should do and he shouldn't worry about trying to find the exact number. Just go start counting those calories scooby!

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Re: Q&A with JackW & Joel S Sharing
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2013, 11:36:44 pm »
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Regarding to drinking milk Powder drink and diarrhea.  It just happened to me yesterday again!

Ate a full breakfast with 2 egg, one small steak, some noddles with a ham at 10-11am
Skipping lunch to play basketball and practice jump.
Prior to gym at 6pm, I pour myself 20 scope of skim milk powder and drank it before gym.

End up having bad diarrhea and lot of gas.

so I Google lactose intolerance and found out that, may be i never have this problem before at younger age, it can be developed at older age...
may be i can eat chess and ice cream no problem but my stomach might not be able to handle sudden load up of lactose.....

now i am thinking.
instead of drinking FULL load cup of concentrated milk piror to gym, may be i should dilute it and drink small portion per hours.


(i need the protein, and in my office, skim milk powder is the closest thing available. There were also Coffie Powder, Milo ovaltine and horlicks... which is probably not as good as skim milk ...)


HorlicksMiloOvaltin
Energy: 90 caloriesEnergy: 60 caloriesEnergy: 40 calories
Protein: 3 gProtein: 2 gProtein: 0 g
Carbs:  18 gCarbs:  9 gCarbs:  10 g
Fat: 1 gFat: 1 gFat: 0 g
« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 03:01:21 am by scoobychau »
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
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