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NBA combine vert numbers
« on: June 18, 2010, 04:02:32 pm »
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Mostly good but not mind-blowing. I was mostly surprised by how little difference there was between a lot of the "no-step" verts (which I assume are just SVJs) and "maximum" verts (which I assume are running or at least approach jumps). Some people were much better on the latter (Luke Babbitt had like an 8" improvement from standing to running, for example), but most weren't that much better.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Draftchart-100526
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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
wednesday: fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: NBA combine vert numbers
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 08:33:01 pm »
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Re: NBA combine vert numbers
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 08:38:41 pm »
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Mostly good but not mind-blowing. I was mostly surprised by how little difference there was between a lot of the "no-step" verts (which I assume are just SVJs) and "maximum" verts (which I assume are running or at least approach jumps). Some people were much better on the latter (Luke Babbitt had like an 8" improvement from standing to running, for example), but most weren't that much better.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Draftchart-100526

are you an ESPN insider? :)

"shitty numbers" but legit numbers, so that's a plus.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=2010&sort2=DESC&draft=100&pos=0&source=All&sort=12

ya most of these guys need a nice run up to express their strength properly, one step aint gonna cut it, that's still on the explosive-strength realm.

i love combines!

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Re: NBA combine vert numbers
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 04:51:17 pm »
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But I mean their approach numbers were like 3-4 inches off from the standing numbers, for a lot of them. That's what I thought was interesting: they're supposed to all be super reactive and whatnot and a bunch of them just aren't, or weren't during that test.

And yeah, I'm an insider, haha.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
wednesday: fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: NBA combine vert numbers
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 09:10:31 am »
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But I mean their approach numbers were like 3-4 inches off from the standing numbers, for a lot of them. That's what I thought was interesting: they're supposed to all be super reactive and whatnot and a bunch of them just aren't, or weren't during that test.

ya well if you check the difference between max RVJ and SVJ, you'll see huge differences..

in someone who isn't as reactive, you'll see say: 35 SVJ, 38 1-step RVJ, 39 FULL RVJ

these guys are basically: 30 SVJ, 34 1-step RVJ, 39 FULL RVJ

i don't expect a 1-step to have a huge difference against SVJ, even for reactive people.. it will be more of course, but not necessarily huge, because it's the run up that is of importance in being reactive, ie, the more speed generated during the runup results in big differences between SVJ/RVJ, which would classify someone as reactive.. less reactive people can't handle these big run ups, in fact you'll see many of them have very weak runups consisting of speed that they could get in a 1-2 step jump, they basically just coast at a slower speed because larger speeds don't help them much at all.

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u r teh insider.

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Re: NBA combine vert numbers
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 09:28:25 am »
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But I mean their approach numbers were like 3-4 inches off from the standing numbers, for a lot of them. That's what I thought was interesting: they're supposed to all be super reactive and whatnot and a bunch of them just aren't, or weren't during that test.

ya well if you check the difference between max RVJ and SVJ, you'll see huge differences..

in someone who isn't as reactive, you'll see say: 35 SVJ, 38 1-step RVJ, 39 FULL RVJ

these guys are basically: 30 SVJ, 34 1-step RVJ, 39 FULL RVJ

i don't expect a 1-step to have a huge difference against SVJ, even for reactive people.. it will be more of course, but not necessarily huge, because it's the run up that is of importance in being reactive, ie, the more speed generated during the runup results in big differences between SVJ/RVJ, which would classify someone as reactive.. less reactive people can't handle these big run ups, in fact you'll see many of them have very weak runups consisting of speed that they could get in a 1-2 step jump, they basically just coast at a slower speed because larger speeds don't help them much at all.

peace !

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And yeah, I'm an insider, haha.

u r teh insider.

adarqui, most of these guys are 27 svj and 32 rvj. not 30 and 39
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