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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2016, 01:18:18 am »
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^^ thanks


also... mike conley, 5 year - 153 million WTF? that's incredible.. and shocking.

http://clutchpoints.com/mike-conley-agrees-5-year-153m-deal-memphis-grizzlies/

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2016, 06:54:16 am »
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I have a lot of people in my Facebook list "complaining" about how "ridiculous" these salaries are. I'm like "no, there's nothing special about 153 million that isn't special about 100 mil or 10 mil". The market decides how much is too much or how much is too little. Obviously, if the team decided to offer him 153 mil $, then that's their decision. Then in their view, that is not too much. Nothing to comment on. That's the financial context of the NBA right now.

On the other hand, Wade was offered only 10 mil :D by the Heat.

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2016, 01:34:40 pm »
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I have a lot of people in my Facebook list "complaining" about how "ridiculous" these salaries are. I'm like "no, there's nothing special about 153 million that isn't special about 100 mil or 10 mil". The market decides how much is too much or how much is too little. Obviously, if the team decided to offer him 153 mil $, then that's their decision. Then in their view, that is not too much. Nothing to comment on. That's the financial context of the NBA right now.

of course there's something to comment on.. I imagine they could have given 153 million to Durant, not Conley; that would have been a far better investment.... Maybe i'm just not clued to how all of this works, but giving so much money to one guy who hasn't even been an allstar caliber player seems like a bad move. Why not use more of that money to bring in an elite player? (unless for some reason they couldn't)

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On the other hand, Wade was offered only 10 mil :D by the Heat.

unless there's some promise of ~100 million next year, he should peace out. :/

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2016, 02:24:16 pm »
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I have a lot of people in my Facebook list "complaining" about how "ridiculous" these salaries are. I'm like "no, there's nothing special about 153 million that isn't special about 100 mil or 10 mil". The market decides how much is too much or how much is too little. Obviously, if the team decided to offer him 153 mil $, then that's their decision. Then in their view, that is not too much. Nothing to comment on. That's the financial context of the NBA right now.

of course there's something to comment on.. I imagine they could have given 153 million to Durant, not Conley; that would have been a far better investment.... Maybe i'm just not clued to how all of this works, but giving so much money to one guy who hasn't even been an allstar caliber player seems like a bad move. Why not use more of that money to bring in an elite player? (unless for some reason they couldn't)

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On the other hand, Wade was offered only 10 mil :D by the Heat.

unless there's some promise of ~100 million next year, he should peace out. :/

The thing is this is all a strange speculative game based on the cap.  Unlikely Durant will sign a 5 year 150 million dollar deal with anyone... More like a 2-3 year deal.   Teams don't know how high the salary cap is gonna go but the idea is you sign Mike Conley to this deal and in years 4 and 5 he is only making 30 million which is a tiny percentage of the salary cap and he is way underpaid allowing you to build a great team...  That said I think they might be betting a bit high...

It's counterintuitive but with a fast rising cap the good but not great players are gonna sign the biggest total deals... Your not gonna convince a great player to sign a six year deal where they might end up being one of the lower paid players in a few years...  But for the guys who are not transcendent you can throw six years at them and a tremendous sum of money and they will think "(a) I'm coming off a good year, I might get hurt or exposed as worse than I am soon and not be this highly valued and (b) who cares if I'm soon on of the lower paid stars, 150 million dollars is a lot, I'm gonna lock it down...

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2016, 02:18:40 am »
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Delly has signed a 4 year $38 million contract with the Bucks :o
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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2016, 11:56:20 am »
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Delly has signed a 4 year $38 million contract with the Bucks :o

Wow this year is quite a shakeup.  If durant leaves the landscape of the NBA could be very different...  Well not if he goes to warriors but if he would go to Knicks or wizards that would be so cool...

I think Lebron winning a title really changes the calculus of the players...  Especially had the Cavs lost like 4-1 to the Warriors the perception would have been very different...

I think then the perception for players like Durant would have been: "the east is so weak.  Right now LeBron just makes it every year and loses to a better western team.  Why not go east and all I have to do is beat the Cavs to get to the finals and then who knows."

But now that they won I feel like it's not nearly as strong but somewhat like how the Bulls were in the late 90s.  Like everyone knows the East is weaker but nobody wants to go their because your not getting past the Bulls and into the finals... 

Funny how perception can change on something so small -  the Warriors could have had DG and possibly closed it out in 5... They didn't.  Cavs look like a juggernaut and confidence of guys like love and Irving it going to carry into next season...

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2016, 05:23:18 pm »
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ya definitely.. Lebron/Cavs got the east on lock right now. It used to be easier to get out of the East, but right now, you're going to have to get past the Cavs juggernaut; they are going to be even better next year.

If Durant leaves the West, then the West will probably be easier to get out of than the East.. that's an interesting change in the power structure. Right now it's GSW/OKC/LAC/POR, those teams are STACKED. In the east, it's pretty much just CLE.. but who knows, maybe it'll be CLE/NY, and maybe even MIA. Alot depends on Durant imho.. if he stays, legit threat to GSW next year.. if he leaves for the east, most likely a legit threat to CLE.

exciting ;d

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2016, 05:26:06 pm »
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also.. i'm a huge Wade/MIA fan but honestly, i'd also be happy to see him in CHICAGO.. going "back home" and landing some major money.

I guess i'm different though.. I like players moving around, it's fun. :ninja:

I still want Durant in MIA tho.. c'mon riles.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-kevin-durant-s070316-story.html

i love tyler johnson, but let him go, if that means more money for Wade or Durant.

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2016, 08:52:19 pm »
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HEAT SIGN WHITESIDE!!!!

<-- me happy.

4 years, 98 mil.. damn

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-hassan-whiteside-s070116-story.html


they are also still trying to get Durant.. the only problem I have is, man what about Wade? dude needs to get paid...

Miami should be ashamed of themselves to treat Wade that way. Lowballing him on $10m a year. Delly is getting nearly $10m a year. Wade needs to go to the Knicks and team up with DRose. 
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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2016, 09:34:06 pm »
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all i know is the wizards didn't get jack shit and i'm sad about it.
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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2016, 10:59:24 pm »
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all i know is the wizards didn't get jack shit and i'm sad about it.

wizards? who? :ninja:

i know how you feel though.. reminds me of the 2000+ dolphins.



HEAT SIGN WHITESIDE!!!!

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4 years, 98 mil.. damn

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-hassan-whiteside-s070116-story.html


they are also still trying to get Durant.. the only problem I have is, man what about Wade? dude needs to get paid...

Miami should be ashamed of themselves to treat Wade that way. Lowballing him on $10m a year. Delly is getting nearly $10m a year. Wade needs to go to the Knicks and team up with DRose.

ya definitely.. that's why if he leaves and gets some big $$, i'd probably be happier than if he stays. MIA really screwed themselves here - unless they just don't care at this point.. that would be disappointing though, considering what he's done for Miami.

i'd love to see him in CHI.

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2016, 02:52:24 am »
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Miami always brag about how they treat "their own" right, like for example in the case of Udonis Haslem.

Unless they know something we don't (like, maybe they got medical reports that Wade will break down in 1 year or so), then this doesn't make sense. Obviously, there has to be some underlying reason that we're not yet aware of.

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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2016, 11:58:12 am »
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Kevin Durant to Warriors


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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2016, 12:52:50 pm »
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that team is either going to score 140 points a game or self-destruct.
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Re: NBA Trade Talk
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2016, 01:39:14 pm »
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so.. will GSW go 82-0 next year?

:(

i'm excited to see what happens, and disappointed because I want to see Durant on a different team just so we can see another legit threat in the NBA. With him going to GSW, it's almost too easy now..

I already want to see a 3-peat of GSW/CLE in the finals.. However, I 100% want CLE to win again.

GSW is now at the point where they are just so stacked, that I find myself rooting against them.. ie, every opponent they face is such a huge underdog, and I love underdogs. I imagine this will be the overall sentiment now that Durant has joined GSW.