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Floyd Mayweather Thread
« on: December 07, 2011, 06:50:50 am »
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Lets get this back on again. Probably got deleted in the backup error thingy.

So back to Floyd Mayweather who is too scared to fight anyone who has a chance of beating his ass.

Now how many people want to face mayweather on Cinco de mayo a latino special day i think i read somewhere.

rober guererro thinks he is best because he has guererro in his name and latino people want to see a latino person against floyd is just bull he has not done anything good he should do the fight with maidana and that should tell us if he is up to it or not.

7 Possible Opponents for mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao
Division:  Welterweight
Record: 54-3-2, 38 KO
Age: 33 (on May 5)
Revenue Potential: Mind-blowing
Risk Level: Moderate/High

Why Fight Him? This bout would have tremendous appeal worldwide and still has the possibility of being the highest revenue-grossing fight ever. From an historical standpoint, Pacquiao vs Mayweather would have tremendous significance, not only in the boxing world but professional sports in general. The fight is also crucial to the legacy of fighters.

Manny Pacquiao, regardless of whether his victory was deserved, looked vulnerable against Marquez.  If Pac has trouble against defensive fighters who are good counter-punchers like Marquez, what will happen when he faces a fighter with great defensive prowess and exemplary counter-punching skills?  Based on Pacquiao's performance earlier this month, Mayweather should lobby for this bout more than ever now.

Why Pass on Him? Is Olympic-style testing for Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) still a prerequisite for Floyd? Based on how Pacquiao looked against Marquez, PEDs testing may no longer be a concern for him. If the fighters haven't been able to agree on drug testing standards for the last two years, there's no reason to believe they would agree on those same standards today. If Mayweather is still adamant about Olympic-style testing, he may have to pass on Pacquiao for now.


Erik Morales
Division: Jr. Welterweight
Record: 52-7, 36 KO
Age: 34
Revenue Potential: Moderate/High
Risk Level: Low

Why Fight Him?
This bout would have strong appeal given the date and the legendary stature of both fighters. Morales, still a top-tier fighter, is campaigning in a higher weight class than he did during his prime years. Nevertheless, he's still the WBC Jr. Welterweight Champion and that accounts for something. But based on Morales' performance against Matthysse last April and his recent win over Cano, Mayweather's height, reach, speed and strength would be too much for Morales at 147 lbs. However, 'El Terrible' is tough and gritty and is likely to make the fight entertaining but not close.

Why Pass on Him?
Defeating Morales wouldn't enhance Mayweather's reputation or marketability. Even if 'Money' is impressive in winning, Erik Morales - at welterweight - isn't the fighter he was at super featherweight and jr lightweight. Some would argue Morales isn't the fighter he used to be period.


Sergio Martinez
Division: Middleweight
Record: 47-2-2, 26 KO
Age: 37 (on May 5)
Revenue Potential: Moderate/High
Risk Level: High

Why Fight Him?
Defeating Sergio Martinez, the reigning Ring Magazine Middleweight Champion and arguably a top 3 pound-for-pound fighter, would cement Mayweather's claim as the best boxer in the world and, perhaps, one of the 10 best fighters ever. It's rumored Mayweather and Martinez are negotiating for a bout at a catch-weight of 150lbs. If the catch-weight is agreed upon, how much strength will Martinez lose getting down to that weight and how much weight will he add when he re-hydrates the day of the fight? Those are two very important questions.

Why Pass on Him?
At 5' 10? ( 178cm) with a 75" (191cm) reach, Martinez is naturally bigger than Floyd and punches harder than anyone Mayweather has fought to date. In addition, he's a southpaw and extremely awkward. Floyd has been excellent at finding his opponents' rhythm early in bouts and making the proper adjustments - But Martinez's movements are so sporadic and spontaneous, he has no real rhythm thereby making it difficult for his opponents to effectively time his movements and punches. Timing is a key element in boxing and Sergio Martinez is almost impossible to time.

Fighting Martinez would be risky and, due to Martinez's lack of mainstream popularity, he wouldn't bring a ton of added revenue with him to supplement the risk. From a strictly business standpoint, if Mayweather can earn as much money (or more) fighting Morales, 'El Terrible' is the better option because the risk would be lower and (monetary) reward would be the same or greater.


Amir Khan
Division: Jr. Welterweight
Record: 26-1, 18 KO
Age: 25 (on May 5)
Revenue Potential: High
Risk Level: High

Why Fight Him?
Provided Khan defeats Lamont Peterson December 10th, a megafight between Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Amir Khan would give 'Money' an opportunity to do something he's never done - fight outside the United States. Although the fight would still be big in the U.S., it would be massive in the U.K. as Mayweather has a large following there. The revenue potential would be very high if its held in the United Kingdom due to both men's popularity there. Khan is a young, elite fighter and defeating him would most certainly enhance Mayweather's legacy.

Why Pass on Him?
Despite what some say, fighting Khan would be risky. Stylistically, Khan could give Mayweather problems because Khan would enjoy advantages in height, reach and perhaps punching power. Khan's speed is comparable to Mayweather's, he has polished skills and is trained by world class trainer Freddie Roach. Due to Khan's longer reach and hand-speed, Mayweather would, conceivably, have to get inside to score. In doing so, the current pound-for-pound king would have to eat leather (as Maidana did), elude or roll with Khan's punches or use his superior footwork to launch his attack from angles where he couldn't easily be hit by the Brit.


Robert Guerrero
Division: Lightweight
Record: 29-1-1, 18 KO
Age: 29 (by May 5)
Revenue Potential: Moderate
Risk Level: Moderate/High

Why Fight Him?
Although he's still, technically, a lightweight, Guerrero has always been big for a lightweight so the move to 147 lbs shouldn't be taxing. Styles make fights so Mayweather vs Guerrero is an intriguing match-up that's guaranteed to excite the masses. Mayweather is bigger, stronger and faster and is more technically proficient and experienced so he would have a clear edge but it could be a dogfight nonetheless. Fighting the aggressive Guerrero would give Mayweather an opportunity to showcase his skills against a young, strong, hungry top-tier fighter who is exciting and threatening. If Guerrero is healthy, it would be a fan-friendly match-up that would make us forget Mayweather vs Mosley.

Like pro wrestling, when a fight has that 'bad guy vs good guy' theme it always generates added interest and Mayweather vs Guerrero has the potential to do just that.

Why Pass on Him?
The speedy southpaw punches like a full-fledged middleweight and is accurate and dangerous. However, Guerrero suffered a torn tendon in his rotator cuff last summer and hasn't fought since April. If he fights Mayweather in May without any tune-ups he might have a little ring rust. Essentially, Guerrero would have little or nothing to lose by fighting Mayweather but 'Money' would have a lot to lose by fighting Guerrero, even in winning. If Guerrero fights Floyd, he would be a lightweight moving up three divisions and would be carrying a bit of ring rust due to inactivity. As a result, anything but an impressive win would arguably tarnish Floyd's reputation.


Saul Alvarez
Division: Jr. Middleweight
Record: 39-0-1, 29 KO
Age: 21
Revenue Potential: Moderate/High
Risk Level: Unknown

Why Fight Him?
Saul "Canelo" Alvarez is a 'rock star' in Mexico and a fight with Mayweather would generate tremendous interest and moderately high revenue. Mayweather is more polished than Alvarez and still possess an athletic edge so it would be to 'Money's' advantage to catch Canelo while he's still a bit green. And in addition to the revenue the fight would generate, Floyd could add boxing's fastest rising star to his list of vanquished foes, secure another title in a higher weight class and certify his claim as boxing's best pound-for-pound.

Lastly, the date of Mayweather's next fight (Cinco de Mayo) would only add to this fight's luster.

Why Pass on Him?
Alvarez is a young lion who's naturally bigger and stronger than Floyd. In addition, he's undefeated, has KO'd his last three opponents and overwhelms fighters who are difficult to look good against. In his most recent outing against Cintron, Canelo displayed awesome power as well as a gritty chin. Alvarez has performed exactly how an elite fighter should against the fighters he's faced and "may" already be an elite fighter himself. At 154 lbs, Alvarez may be every bit as dangerous as Pacquiao, Martinez and Khan, if not more dangerous. Its not known how well Canelo would perform against an elite fighter so fighting him would be a gamble. If Floyd won't earn as much money fighting Canelo as he would fighting Khan or Martinez, it might be smart for Floyd to pass on Alvarez for now.


Timothy Bradley
Division: Jr. Welterweight
Record: 28-0, 12 KO
Age: 28
Revenue Potential: Moderate
Risk Level: Low

Why Fight Him?
Timothy Bradley is an underrated, undefeated, top 15 pound-for-pound fighter with whom Mayweather would match-up well against. Bradley isn't a knockout artist and doesn't possess the skills and speed of Floyd Mayweather so it's difficult to see Tim as a potential threat. In addition to being quicker and more experienced, Floyd would also have advantages in size, strength and almost every other conceivable category.

Why Pass on Him?
Would anyone be excited about this fight? Bradley is a very talented boxer but his fighting style and lack of mainstream name recognition wouldn't sell a lot of pay-per-views.

source:http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/1637-Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-7-Possible-Opponents

also add Cotto to the list as talks have begun due to his interest in fighting mayweather on may even though arum wants him to fight chavez.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 07:12:59 am »
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Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Update: Negotiations Nearly Complete


 :o What is going on?

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http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/boxingmma/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-update-negotiations-nearly-complete
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 06:43:15 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8bV_2kE8PY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8bV_2kE8PY</a>

epic interview.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 07:48:17 pm »
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Mayweather choses his top 5 boxers and yes he put himself in no.1 lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU</a>

It shows how he rates boxers, not by their abilities but by their records.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 11:36:37 pm »
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Mayweather choses his top 5 boxers and yes he put himself in no.1 lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU</a>

Nice vid.



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It shows how he rates boxers, not by their abilities but by their records.

I didn't get that at all, from that video.. :ninja:

His ratings, IMHO, had more to do with dominating at multiple weight classes and beating world champions. Dominating, by default, means you'll have an impressive record.

Abilities are important but, if you lose to someone you shouldn't, or just lose several times in general, doesn't that say something about the consistency (or true level) of your abilities - unless you were robbed? I mean you could be the most impressive boxer on the planet, but if you lose some big fights, it drops you down automatically on a list of "the best ever".

Personally, every time Floyd has stepped into the ring, I expect him to win. I expect this because I haven't seen a fighter out there, who is capable of figuring him out. So to me, I understand why someone would put him at #1 in a p4p "best ever" list. He's like an encryption cipher that no one has ever been able to crack. That consistency and mastery, is on another level.

So, the "sweet science" is more than just power, offense, defense, technique, skill, flashiness, etc.. To *me*, it's consistently being able to defeat your opinion, no matter who they are, no matter how bad they want it. The "sweet science" has always been "the art of hit but not get hit", which is at the core of the "mastery" of boxing. It's obvious I gravitate towards defensive boxers, it's mostly because of that idea about "hit and not get hit".



Also like Floyd said, Ali to me is all about what he stood for. His abilities were undeniable, and he changed heavyweight boxing forever. But his refusal to fight in Vietnam & the way he went about it, while being heavyweight champion of the world, will never be forgotten. That is eternal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/27/opinion/muhammad-ali-vietnam-war.html

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"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?"

"Man, I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong. No Viet Cong ever called me nigger."

"I'm not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over."

That's on another level.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 11:49:10 pm »
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Floyd's twitter is absolute trash lmfao:

https://twitter.com/FloydMayweather?lang=en

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2017, 06:43:26 am »
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Mayweather choses his top 5 boxers and yes he put himself in no.1 lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU</a>

It shows how he rates boxers, not by their abilities but by their records.

I love his confidence. Honestly there's a lot of pressure to say Ali is the best boxer ever etc. but I thought Mayweather handled the situation well and was respectful. In the controversial world of boxing he's undefeated so got to respect that.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2017, 02:51:24 pm »
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Mayweather choses his top 5 boxers and yes he put himself in no.1 lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-HzMSJ-lU</a>

It shows how he rates boxers, not by their abilities but by their records.

I love his confidence. Honestly there's a lot of pressure to say Ali is the best boxer ever etc. but I thought Mayweather handled the situation well and was respectful. In the controversial world of boxing he's undefeated so got to respect that.

Yup! That stands out to me too. I can't recall seeing Floyd "pushed around" or "caving" in an interview. He usually has things firmly mapped out in his head, not easy to sway/pressure him.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2017, 05:12:39 pm »
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So, the "sweet science" is more than just power, offense, defense, technique, skill, flashiness, etc.. To *me*, it's consistently being able to defeat your opinion, no matter who they are, no matter how bad they want it. The "sweet science" has always been "the art of hit but not get hit", which is at the core of the "mastery" of boxing. It's obvious I gravitate towards defensive boxers, it's mostly because of that idea about "hit and not get hit".

how did that happen lol  :P

Ok, I agree he is one of the best defensive boxers of all time and no one could touch him. But in that video and his ratings according to what I heard:

forget that it was my mistake, he is just so confident about top 5 player choices he can give the reasons there and then. It's just when I heard him mention ppv record, live gate record, then also mentioning julio cesar chavez record of 80-0, pernel whittaker never lost until towards the end of his career,  so that made me think he only was considered about records. But he did mention other things too.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2017, 05:36:19 pm »
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i don't know about the greatest, but he's definitely the smartest boxer in the ring.....
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2017, 10:30:59 pm »
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some nice floyd highlights, good quote by the video author:

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This is a special edition to my Boxing Skills Series. The goals of these types of videos is to educate New and old boxing fans how fundamentally sound that fighter is. While trying to debunk the stereotypes of that fighter. For example. Canelo Alvarez, I showed that he has quite an underrated defense and exquisite head movement. Personally I'm not a fan of Floyd but as a boxing fan I know Floyd is not a runner and the purpose of this video is to debunk this stereotype.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4IV80wnShY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4IV80wnShY</a>

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2017, 04:04:40 pm »
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old vid, re maidana vs floyd glove controversy.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI8K829pEaU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI8K829pEaU</a>

gloves do look sketch af.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2017, 06:07:27 pm »
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They do. I saw a vid with robert garcia explaining what happened. So I don't know what to believe.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35FdUoyX61M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35FdUoyX61M</a>

This explains the above and what happened after.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Thread
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2017, 06:53:34 pm »
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if I tune everyone out, and just look at Floyd pressing into the glove, it becomes pretty clear to me. There's no way people could push into that glove a few times and break it in like that.. That's like a glove that's been used for 10 years, ie, no padding.

That's some shady shit.. Def looks bad on Garcia & Maidana.

Floyd has been boxing his whole life .. his reaction is pretty genuine. He was genuinely like, "what the fuck?" heh.