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I AM BACK!
« on: September 04, 2010, 09:42:38 am »
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2010, 10:36:34 am »
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sick man! that took awhile to get healthy     props to sticking it out.  :headbang:
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2010, 11:04:36 am »
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thx man.
the really painful part was staying away from the game.

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2010, 03:30:11 pm »
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So this is some kind of inspirational for me I guess :D

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2010, 04:22:57 pm »
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUDEEEEEEEEE

ENZO IS FLYIN.




i knew you'd be back, just didn't know when.. but i didn't expect that kind of comeback LOL.. ridiculous.

those dunks were better than any i've seen you do.. well maybe a few from way back were just as good, but these had some serious aggression/passion behind them, so ya these are the best i've seen you do :P

i love it man! big respect to you for getting everything back on track.

i woke up not wanting to dunk today, but i feel like trying to destroy a rim now hahah.




my yotube comment:

"this video is amazing.. i bow to you.. you are jumping higher than before, look even stronger/more in shape.

raptor mentioned bounds, but remember, keep it simple and don't do any dumb advanced stuff.. whatever you've been doing has been working great..

im seriously impressed.

thanks for the shoutout too..

peace man, really looking forward to your next video."







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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2010, 04:25:30 pm »
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So this is some kind of inspirational for me I guess :D

really, it actually is... stay away from things that bug your knee, get in insane shape, progress very slowly with your training, and voila.

you are obsessed with a few things that could be really aggravating your knee, i've said many times, you have to let that addiction go.. i've seen some great jumps by you even in the face of this knee issue.

i know you can get healthy, just have to have fun with training, not do anything that aggravates, and focus on getting in shape/health as #1 priority.

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 06:49:34 pm »
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How would you define "in shape&healthy"?

Training just doesn't make sense to me right now... I'm so limited... I still can do a few things but they are probably limited at hip-isolated movements, I'm thinking straight leg deadlifts and 1-leg variants of those...

Slow running might actually make the knee thing worse... I probably need to get to the doctor again but I don't want to fucking tell me I need an MRI... I just need some basic rehab stuff for a possible ITB friction and do these... if it's the meniscus whatever... they can't hurt as much as maximal jumping can they?

When you think about it, even a dynamic warmup is damaging, knees to chest march and stuff like that... that's pretty intense for the right knee.

As for Enzo... I get very hardly impressed/happy about someone... I did for him. I really am a passive guy and pretty much a hater in essence... not with Enzo for some unknown reason I guess. I genuinely am happy for you man, hopefully you stay healthy. Usually when I say stuff like this is just "politically corectedness" when I don't really mean it so ... you know... it's genuine for you.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2010, 07:52:20 pm »
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How would you define "in shape&healthy"?

improving conditioning & moderate rep bodyweight exercises/lifts goes a long way towards improving health.. short sprints, 200's, 400's, light running, jump rope, lateral movements, submax jumps from all plants, bodyweight stuff, avoiding risky exercises etc.. improving overall fitness.

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Training just doesn't make sense to me right now... I'm so limited... I still can do a few things but they are probably limited at hip-isolated movements, I'm thinking straight leg deadlifts and 1-leg variants of those...

so you can't jump/sprint anymore without pain? i figured the pain in the knee was still mostly isolated to squatting, considering your recent bound videos and depth broad jump videos.

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Slow running might actually make the knee thing worse... I probably need to get to the doctor again but I don't want to fucking tell me I need an MRI... I just need some basic rehab stuff for a possible ITB friction and do these... if it's the meniscus whatever... they can't hurt as much as maximal jumping can they?

if maximal jumping feels fine then it's definitely something else.. if you do slow runs, do them on grass etc, nice and soft, lots of blood flow, lots of very light impacts.

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When you think about it, even a dynamic warmup is damaging, knees to chest march and stuff like that... that's pretty intense for the right knee.

if a dynamic warmup is really hurting the knee then man get that mri and get it figured out, thats if you have the right type of medical care.. if you don't, you'll have to do lots of light stuff to help rebuild/compensate to protect the knee.


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As for Enzo... I get very hardly impressed/happy about someone... I did for him. I really am a passive guy and pretty much a hater in essence... not with Enzo for some unknown reason I guess. I genuinely am happy for you man, hopefully you stay healthy. Usually when I say stuff like this is just "politically corectedness" when I don't really mean it so ... you know... it's genuine for you.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2010, 12:38:45 am »
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Nice vid ESav!!!! Congrats on coming back strong and sticking it out. Respect.
Stats as of October 15, 2010
age: 20
weight: ~153 lbs
height: 5'7", 5'8" with shoes
reach: 7'5.5" in shoes
svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 05:16:50 am »
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improving conditioning & moderate rep bodyweight exercises/lifts goes a long way towards improving health.. short sprints, 200's, 400's, light running, jump rope, lateral movements, submax jumps from all plants, bodyweight stuff, avoiding risky exercises etc.. improving overall fitness.

To be frank, I'm kind of "afraid" of doing any "long distance" (>50m) sprints... I feel like my heart will blow up and die. I really think about that in my head. I've never had any resistance ever in my life... especially as I get drained of energy almost immediately because of nervous stuff (I get so "stressed" when I run that my energy just drains like rocket fuel).

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so you can't jump/sprint anymore without pain? i figured the pain in the knee was still mostly isolated to squatting, considering your recent bound videos and depth broad jump videos.

I can sprint at high speeds without too much pain and I can jump maximally... it's just... weird. For the bounds, I only did them on the left leg, no right leg involvement. And yeah, I can do the depth jumps but there is pain.

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if maximal jumping feels fine then it's definitely something else.. if you do slow runs, do them on grass etc, nice and soft, lots of blood flow, lots of very light impacts.

That's just boring... slow runs? WTF? ;D I can't just go to the track and see other people (Nightfly etc) train while I "slow run"... drives me nuts. I mean, I feel like my life is meaningless and shit like that. I know, crazy, but I still think that. Lost time...

Now I know, you're going to say "yes but it's for your healing"... haven't ever been injured in my life... that's a hard concept to comprehend.

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if a dynamic warmup is really hurting the knee then man get that mri and get it figured out, thats if you have the right type of medical care.. if you don't, you'll have to do lots of light stuff to help rebuild/compensate to protect the knee.

A dynamic warmup isn't "really" hurting the knee but it does hurt it. When I do the knees to chest jumps unilaterally as part of the warmup, it still is an unilateral jump and land... so that bothers my knee.

But enough about me, hopefully I can rebound like Enzo here  :-*

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2010, 06:20:32 am »
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUDEEEEEEEEE

ENZO IS FLYIN.




i knew you'd be back, just didn't know when.. but i didn't expect that kind of comeback LOL.. ridiculous.

those dunks were better than any i've seen you do.. well maybe a few from way back were just as good, but these had some serious aggression/passion behind them, so ya these are the best i've seen you do :P

i love it man! big respect to you for getting everything back on track.

i woke up not wanting to dunk today, but i feel like trying to destroy a rim now hahah.




my yotube comment:

"this video is amazing.. i bow to you.. you are jumping higher than before, look even stronger/more in shape.

raptor mentioned bounds, but remember, keep it simple and don't do any dumb advanced stuff.. whatever you've been doing has been working great..

im seriously impressed.

thanks for the shoutout too..

peace man, really looking forward to your next video."







peace!@$$@!%!@

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I don't know where to begin from guys!

thanks for the kind words andrew. I've been on a rollercoaster, emotionally speaking, for quite a long time now, overthinking about what I had to do with my knee, staying madly focused on every little message from my body, going mad each and everytime some weird shit happened...when they told me I could play, something in my head switched on.

Bottom line is: I wanted it so bad. It was all about mind over matter for me. And if my mind was strong enough, I owe that to you and all the other guys working hard and motivating me.

Yesterday was my birthday. I couldn't buy myself a better present than that video ahah!.

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 06:41:05 am »
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As for Enzo... I get very hardly impressed/happy about someone... I did for him. I really am a passive guy and pretty much a hater in essence... not with Enzo for some unknown reason I guess. I genuinely am happy for you man, hopefully you stay healthy. Usually when I say stuff like this is just "politically corectedness" when I don't really mean it so ... you know... it's genuine for you.

thx emil.
I always felt this sort of (no homo LOL!) connection too. both of us single leg leapers, both of us on the same page (you were better when I started, and your best is better than my best though) althletically.
what I've always appreciated the most about you (wit humor and english mastery come as close second ahah!;)) was your insight-analysis ability, and your overthinking attitude in general. though it can be some kind of an obstacle in the way to achieve your goals sometimes, it is a clear sign of how much you care about it.
that's what makes you special, above all the other things, in my eyes. your passion.

the best advice I can give you, from the bottom of my hart, is: fix the knee. I know this means stop training and undergoing some expensive exams. but when it's about your health, money are always well spent. And simply don't worry about losing your hard gained results. when I stopped lifting, I thought I wouldn't be able to dunk again. It took the hell of an hard work with weights to put down a legit dunk for me, so I simply thought I would have lost it all. But I was eventually able to bounce back.

stop training, fix the knee, rest, don't rush things up, return pain free, BAM!
some seriously hard times might be ahead. But you can make it. I know you will.

you have it in you man.

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2010, 06:55:42 am »
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Nice vid ESav!!!! Congrats on coming back strong and sticking it out. Respect.

thx man, I appreciated that.

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2010, 07:04:05 am »
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Hey thanks Enzo. My thinking process is to pretty much rest now in the Autumn since there will be raining etc outside... so basically I need to rest as part as my training process if you will (and if I will :P). I'm training with pretty much no rest at all (consistently) for like 1 year+, maybe it's time to give the body some due respect and let it recover. I could still do core work and maybe some kind of one-leg RDL... pure hip extension, low volumes, just for the sake of it. And upperbody work, bodyweight work (pushups, pullups etc).

Then if I get healthy, and if my injury is overuse-related (it would appear so) - then I might get healthy again. I'm also thinking of switching to low bar squats and I plan on getting into that using box squats first to learn to sit back more...

I have an amalgam of things in my head... I even plan to write an article about the "perfect plan" (yes, pretentious words here) with a thorough analysis of whatever a "perfect" plan should contain from all the standpoints of training (that includes a lot of stuff).

Anyway, regarding the bounds: I think you can still do one-leg consecutive bounds on the left leg... there's nothing that can stop you since the right knee is the injured one... just make sure you're fit enough to do them so you don't injure that too. I'm doing them (I won't from now on) and I'm always thinking "be careful, be focused" when I'm doing them so that I don't get injured.

These were the last ones that I did:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzpg-ylt9I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzpg-ylt9I</a>

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2010, 07:36:58 am »
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Hey thanks Enzo. My thinking process is to pretty much rest now in the Autumn since there will be raining etc outside... so basically I need to rest as part as my training process if you will (and if I will :P). I'm training with pretty much no rest at all (consistently) for like 1 year+, maybe it's time to give the body some due respect and let it recover. I could still do core work and maybe some kind of one-leg RDL... pure hip extension, low volumes, just for the sake of it. And upperbody work, bodyweight work (pushups, pullups etc).

Then if I get healthy, and if my injury is overuse-related (it would appear so) - then I might get healthy again. I'm also thinking of switching to low bar squats and I plan on getting into that using box squats first to learn to sit back more...

I have an amalgam of things in my head... I even plan to write an article about the "perfect plan" (yes, pretentious words here) with a thorough analysis of whatever a "perfect" plan should contain from all the standpoints of training (that includes a lot of stuff).

Anyway, regarding the bounds: I think you can still do one-leg consecutive bounds on the left leg... there's nothing that can stop you since the right knee is the injured one... just make sure you're fit enough to do them so you don't injure that too. I'm doing them (I won't from now on) and I'm always thinking "be careful, be focused" when I'm doing them so that I don't get injured.

These were the last ones that I did:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzpg-ylt9I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzpg-ylt9I</a>

I know how it feels like.
I will keep your advice in mind, as always. As for now, the bold part is my mindset also. I just prefer to avoid anything even remotely dangerous except playing. Playing is so much of a demanding activity I don't want to do much else for the moment
Glad to see you will rest. That's a much needed rest indeed man. I'm looking forward to your big time comeback man.
I can see that coming from here: Raptor dunk mix. Karaoke soundtrack. Short shorts. High jumps. Awesome!;)