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Exactly. I once did some filming with Nightfly in the past, with him jumping head level to the rim, from a low angle. Then I went up on a fence and filmed from exactly the level of the rim. He was 4-6 inches below the rim with his head. Such a big, big difference.

Quote from: Raptor on April 22, 2016, 02:48:26 am

I was wondering, I'm thinking of going to a boxing club. Except that usually it's filled with under 80 IQ people, gypsies, and extremely idiotic "coaches". Plus probably I would quickly get in a fight with someone and, well, let's just say that getting in a fight at a boxing club is the last thing you want to do.

What do you think? What's your experience with this?

lots of good people at boxing gyms.. sure most of them might not be into the stuff you're into but, you'll find lots of dedicated people in there.. most of which probably wouldn't judge you/size you up at all; they'd probably be pretty helpful.

i seriously doubt anyone would get into a fight with you.. think about it, you're in a boxing gym. In boxing gyms, if people really have a beef, they get in the ring and slug it out, usually under supervision. Fighting outside of the square circle is often a big no-no and can get you banned from most gyms.

People actually go into boxing gyms looking for fights.. there's videos on youtube. Usually, the boxing coach will find some young tough amateur KID to beat this grown man's ass in the actual ring.

Yeah I absolutely LOVE that. Always makes me think of Charlie Zelenoff (although that guy is a victim of mental illness, so I can't really make fun of him, but still, you get the idea).

The more I think about boxing the more I want to do it.

Do you "have" to fight in the ring or you can just train? What's the progression? How does the typical learning curve look like? (what do you learn first, and how do you grow as a boxer, even a non-competitive one)?

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No, we have to find way to rehabilitate these people. Otherwise they are completely useless and a burden to society for as long as they live, beyond the fact that their lives are wasted and lost for one idiot thing that they did (yes, I know, the girl that was killed had her life wasted away, but as a society, we have to be better than those abusing the society). It's that simple.

Definitely, the question is - was that rim 10 feet? Because if so, even with the angles and so on, definitely head over rim there. 10'6"? I don't know.

The point I was trying to make is that he's definitely at ~48" or so. But 53? Hard to say, it's exponentially harder to cover these 5 inches from 48 to 53 than it is from 20 to 25...

Well, I said that in the above paragraph of your quote - probably less absolute force is occuring through the body which makes the CNS accept it much easier, without the fear of things breaking up, and allowing a faster coupling phase etc, and the tendons pretty much maintain their material qualities regardless of weight, so the structural factors that have nothing to do with muscular strength, like Avishek used to say "muscles don't have anything to do with this bullshit" - these structural factors start playing a more important role at a lower bodyweight. Otherwise the CNS is going to make you use less speed in the plant to protect them, speed that has to be compensated for with voluntary power.

Since both athletes have the same voluntary power, then the heavier athlete will jump lower, due to the loss of speed in the plant/loss of accumulated momentum which would otherwise add to the voluntary power that is identical.

It looks like you use a single arm swing coming up your right leg and a "somewhat double arm swing" coming off your left leg... I guess your body is just too much "forward" when you take off, that's the only thing I can see. Like you don't load the posterior chain too much because you stay too forward instead of letting yourself a bit on the back and "hip-popping". Oh well... I think my one leg jump of right now looks much uglier.