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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:27:57 pm »
Adarq is quite on in terms of ME sprints/recovery. You CANT run ME 100s Iver and over and progress. No one has the speed endurance to handle that workload so you have to work in blocks. I tend to suggest a ladder workout for introductory sprinting. Start with something 5 40s, 2 60s and a all out 100 then back down with 2 60s, 5 40s. The key is to make each effort maximal so light volume. Get your running volume from tempo runs as Andrew suggested. You can try the flying leads but I usually use those as light warmups or to bust a plateau. Just my cheap pennies tho.

Oh and FORGET form for right now. You're using sprints to cross train, increase cardio vascular, and ignite "dormant" muscle patterns not to go set a WR. Without a PROPER form coach, you'll only hinder yourself. Your body, gait, turnover, lean, etc is all unique. You won't WANT to sprint the same as Bolt or Gay or Powell as their different animals. Take cues yes, but forget stride mechanics etc. 3 point stance. Head down. Focus on quick turnover for the first 15-20. Let your body "rise up" afterwards. Then it's all foot and arm drive while staying relaxed.

^^ this * 1000.



"I'm doing a race in several weeks, must learn proper form" <- does not work.

Just get some somewhat frequent + intelligent sessions in and go hard on race day. Don't destroy yourself in training. Don't think. Just run.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:16:42 pm »
whoa this track meet i'm doing tonight will have LIVE RESULTS! what did I get myself in to? lmao!!

http://files.milesplit.us/live_results/301651/index.html

THE SEED LISTS CAME OUT!

I'm solid over 1600m. I'm the slowest guy over 200m, LMFAO!!! Decent over 3200. A guy I know who is really fast was the only person running 5000m, so he moved up to 3200. So now we have another near sub10 guy in there.

The 400m/200m dudes are crazy fast. For 200m, some 20.x guy in there from Haiti, all 21's for the first heat.








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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: May 18, 2018, 11:02:12 am »
You're sprinting now? Good news. I'd imagine it hits your lower body muscles in a very different way compared to what you're used to - a lot more lactic acid to deal with. Is this just for dad stuff or is it a new part of your training too?

It's easy to stay consistent with sprinting too IMHO. It's fun, you just go out there and get some work in & feels great. Easier than jumping. Keeps you fit etc.

If he stayed consistent with it throughout, especially during his "down periods for jumping", would be good for him.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: May 18, 2018, 10:39:26 am »
180516 3x 100 with Spike in 25 min
I almost died after this session.
12:53
14:5x
14:5x

after this... it took me 30 min to recover, i can barely breath.. or stand up... i feel like i need to vomit or take a dump...

If accurate, that 12:53 is extremely good, given your fitness.

Also, don't expect to be able to run multiple all-out 100's. They are intense and you will fall apart. Anyone would fall apart.

If I were you I would be using 3 tools (different workouts):
- submax 100's @ ~75%, for volume: building up to ~10 or so, walk back recovery
- hard accelerations + relaxed float: 5 (~60m accel) to 10 (~30m accel) hard accelerations + relaxed-floating until 100.
- buildups + flying 10-30m: ~5 x @ relaxed accel + building up to ~85% top speed then holding it for the last 10-30m of the 100.

I'm not a track coach, but that's what I would do (probably building up to more volume on some of the stuff). I'd tackle the 100 from 3 different angles (fitness, start, finish). And i'd avoid 90-100% 100m sprints in training like the plague, save that for "race day".



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With 2 weeks left.. i dont know what i am going to do.... Working on the start form seens...second priority now.  if i could not even maintain speed for 100m.

^^ correct.. fitness > start form.



werid... but i bet some of u might says... screw all this thinking process, get back out there, RUN ur ass off and let ur body guide u with ur own feeling.

^^ correct again.

You're doing 4 point starts without blocks, that's awkward for anyone. And then you're looking at sprinters who start out of blocks, who have done block starts probably 1 million times, and getting frustrated with your form etc - meanwhile, not sure if you've ever done a block start?

Anyway.. don't be too hard on yourself, you're not prepared. You keep mentioning the HIIT stuff but, that was a long time ago. You don't retain that stuff after so long (many months). I mean you do nervous-system wise, but not muscle-tendon-fasciae wise.

As far as which foot to put in front, just imagine you never read any of that stuff online, and someone put you up against a few other people of similar abilities, told you whoever wins gets 1 million dollars. Whichever foot goes forward in that scenario, is how you do it.

Your fascination with form is toxic, IMHO.

Just get in some solid sessions, focusing on stuff that'll give you the "most bang for your buck" before this race/event, and then just have fun.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: May 18, 2018, 09:38:06 am »
so, turns out i'm getting a photo signed by the 800m WR holder, Mr. 800m himself, Rudisha. :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

?taken-by=the_kenya_experience

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: May 17, 2018, 11:15:26 pm »
complete rest day. pre-track meet day.



05/17/2018

bw = 145
bw before bed last night = ?
soreness = quads barely, hips slightly, calves slightly
aches/injuries = right big toe barely
cramping = none
morning quad flexibility = loose
morning hamstring flexibility = loose
morning calf flexibility = tight
morning adductor flexibility = loose
feel = ok
hours sleep: 9

wakeup = 08:00 AM (slept in)

sub5 splits in 2018: 1 of 50

data collected throughout the day when I have my watch on:
HR low: ?
HR high: ?

log:
08:15 AM: food: rxbar, water
09:00 AM: food: 6 x eggs, 2 x toasted sourdough with irish butter, banana, water
02:00 PM: food: 2 x chocolates, cheezits, banana, rxbar, water
04:00 PM: food: banana, trail mix bar, water
07:00 PM: food: 5 x pieces of pizza (anthony's), cookies & cream milkshake w/ whipped cream (kilwins), peanut butter cup (kilwins), water
09:00 PM: leg drain: 30 minutes

up way too late, 11:15 PM at the time of this post! :(

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: May 17, 2018, 09:29:36 pm »
16 May 2018

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : chest, lats, glutes, abductors, quads, damn, wrecked!
Injuries/aches : none

-1KM WARMUP (jog+strides) @ 7m53s
-5KM TIME TRIAL : 28m 37s , HUGE  :personal-record: , previous was 31'05'', broke the 30' milestone and went under 29' too!!!  :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning:

-1KM COOLDOWN (walk ) @ 10m34s

All 5KM splits below 6, awesome!
Also, set my starting 5KM point in such a way so that the last 750m of the last km would be all downhill. That was in order to destroy my 1KM PR , which i did, 5'18'' from 5'41'' ,  :personal-record: :ibrunning:

TOTAL : 7km in 47m5s



bro. seems like you are GOING IN on this running stuff.

I see a 5k race in your future with a top3 age group.

solid PR's!

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Misc Running Videos
« on: May 17, 2018, 07:43:45 pm »
GREAT video from Sage.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBmVOt0lKC4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBmVOt0lKC4</a>

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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: The Sprinting News Thread
« on: May 17, 2018, 03:05:43 pm »
200m

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjMW71sdsw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjMW71sdsw</a>

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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: The Sprinting News Thread
« on: May 17, 2018, 02:43:33 pm »
Prescod, Su, Xie

some huge upsets in the men's 100m diamond league!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSFGhoXQN0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSFGhoXQN0</a>

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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 Season
« on: May 17, 2018, 10:51:05 am »
True he's a more of a enabler of offence than an iso guy but for his legacy it's better to have some crazy outlier playoff games in a losing effort. I think the claim against lebron is that he'd rather give up than go off in a losing situation. Maybe?

well, from his standpoint, it might make sense to shut it down in an away game. If he was on fire that game, and his team just can't do sh*t, and BOS is pulling away, maybe "giving up" would be a smart decision, knowing he can't give up at all @ home. Not saying he did any of that, or actually gave up (because he was still playing good in the 4th, his team gave up on defense), but if he did regulate his performance a bit like that because he "knows himself" and knows that he needs to dig deep af in CLE, it could make some sense. I could definitely see LEBRON doing something like that, given past performances of becoming drained/destroyed late in the finals/playoffs, and taking regular season games off etc. His only chance left this year, is to win these next two games in CLE, get his team firing on all cylinders, & rattle BOS enough that he can steal one in Boston.

But ya, I think LEBRON is someone who understands pacing himself. Go off for 70 in an away game @ BOS in game 2, be drained for game 3 in CLE ... Maybe he's just smarter than most ISO guys? lool.

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so, if you are a dedicated athlete, you'd want your resting HR to be the same as someone who trains maybe 1/10th or 1/100th as much as you? not going to happen. Training hard, often, and for considerable time is going to lower your resting HR. It's an adaptation that's unavoidable. It implies efficiency: if the heart needed to beat more, it would -> but it doesn't, thus efficiency (less fat tissue usually, greater capillary density, greater stroke volume). The only way to keep it from happening is to stop training as hard and/or as long. It happens to boxers, futbol players, tennis players, runners, sprinters, cyclists, etc. People who train "too hard" for "too long" may actually shorten their life span, but the averages for dedicated athletes that i've seen, is greater than sedentary folks.

Training affects athletes hearts different ways. Efficiency is good but to a point, it can be bad if you get too efficient lol. I think for endurance type athletes the adaptations that happen are not so good for health, eg enlarged left ventricle. Another thing observed in such athletes is scarring of the heart which in addition to low resting heart rate can cause signalling problems. What happens is the scarred tissue/cells emit errant signals that propagate thru to the rest of the heart between beats and this leads to arrhythmia. The left hypertrophy causes other problems but i cant remember what they were now, it just isn't a desirable adaptation.

Normal for NBA athletes is 60. I can't find the source now but i remember reading it when i was looking into basketball and the heart. Other sports will have different values but i was suprised at 60 for what i thought was a pretty heavy aerobic sport. And anyone who carries more mass, no matter how fit, will have a higher RHR than if they were lighter.


Every "intense" sport which mixes aerobic/anaerobic will result in heart rate lowering. And most sports have a higher aerobic component than we realize, especially in training. NBA athletes might be 60 because they are far taller than average people.

LV hypertrophy happens in every sport, to the extent that it happens with marathoners, obviously not as much.

Right like I said, too efficient is basically <= low 30's, ie 35, 32, 28 etc. That's dangerously low because it could be more of a sign of desensitization than simply efficiency.

Scarring of the heart is different than a low resting HR. Scarring may happen when endurance athletes push hard, for too long. Especially if they take PED's and such. A big component to all of this is drug use, "jacked up" supplement use etc. If you want scarring, take substances that allow you to push much harder for much longer. If you don't want scarring, listen to your body (and you'll be at less risk). Applies the same for PED/supplement use in any sport. The things we have access to now allow us to train harder more frequently, that's a problem. And for endurance athletes, it could effect their most important muscle.

Bottom line. If you drop weight, RHR lowers. If you get more fit, RHR lowers. If you don't train, RHR rises. If you gain weight, eat bad, smoke, RHR rises.

The heart, unless it's desensitized by "overtraining", beats enough as it needs to, to distribute blood throughout the body. The resting HR any of us have, is the optimal one because if it were any less, we'd be passing out, and if it were any more, we'd be jumping out of our skin. Obviously people who have experienced heart conditions/issues fall into another category.

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15 year old WR ?? 800m @ 1:47.5

?taken-by=flotrack

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: May 16, 2018, 11:54:16 pm »
light day.



05/16/2018

bw = 145
bw before bed last night = ?
soreness = quads slightly, hips slightly, calves moderate, hamstrings moderate
aches/injuries = right big toe barely, left forefoot barely (during evening run)
cramping = none
morning quad flexibility = loose
morning hamstring flexibility = loose
morning calf flexibility = tight
morning adductor flexibility = loose
feel = ok
hours sleep: 7.5

wakeup = 06:00 AM

sub5 splits in 2018: 1 of 50

data collected throughout the day when I have my watch on:
HR low: ?
HR high: ?

log:
06:30 AM: food: rxbar, water
07:20 AM: workout: morning recovery run (grass/rocks/dirt, calves tight, feel ok): 50 minutes @ light
09:30 AM: wholefoods: 2 x bacon egg & cheese, double chocolate muffin, water
01:00 PM: food: rxbar, banana, water
04:00 PM: food: trail mix bar, water
06:00 PM: food: some beef stew, rice, water
07:00 PM: leg drain while reading: 30 minutes
07:45 PM: evening light run (roads, grass too soaked): 1.5 hours @ light (<=139 HR) :: Thursday=REST, Friday=TRACK MEET, Saturday=REST, Sunday=MILE RACE + LONG RUN
09:30 PM: food: prunes, avocado toast, 2 x banana, rxbar, oatmeal + tons of honey + pink salt, tons of water


workout: morning recovery run (grass/rocks/dirt, calves tight, feel ok): 50 minutes @ light
- https://www.strava.com/activities/1575603746


workout: evening light run (roads, grass too soaked): 1.5 hours @ light (<=139 HR) :: Thursday=REST, Friday=TRACK MEET, Saturday=REST, Sunday=MILE RACE + LONG RUN
- https://www.strava.com/activities/1577028602

left forefoot bugging a little, probably from the track spikes .. or stepping on a rock this morning.

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lower HR is generally good, until it gets too low (<= low 30's). 40's-50's is probably optimal. just means you are more efficient. too low and it means you might have desensitized it.

That's not true bro. Not in general re health. Endurance athletes having low resting HRs but this does not make them healthier, for example when it comes to the heart, if anything it predisposes them to biochemically signalling problems like arrythmias than the general population. The risk goes up b/c the time between heart beats is longer, then errant signals that arise somewhere else (not from the natural pacemaker) can mess with the normal beating of the heart. But if your HR is more normal, then there is less of an opportunity for that to happen b/c the normal signal will come more often. That's how i understood it. Also low HR can be a sign of underactive thyroid (i think in my case this is part of it).

so, if you are a dedicated athlete, you'd want your resting HR to be the same as someone who trains maybe 1/10th or 1/100th as much as you? not going to happen. Training hard, often, and for considerable time is going to lower your resting HR. It's an adaptation that's unavoidable. It implies efficiency: if the heart needed to beat more, it would -> but it doesn't, thus efficiency (less fat tissue usually, greater capillary density, greater stroke volume). The only way to keep it from happening is to stop training as hard and/or as long. It happens to boxers, futbol players, tennis players, runners, sprinters, cyclists, etc. People who train "too hard" for "too long" may actually shorten their life span, but the averages for dedicated athletes that i've seen, is greater than sedentary folks.

regarding signaling problems & arrhythmias, there isn't some trend of this happening to athletes that i'm aware of. Some dedicated athletes may drop dead "early", or suffer heart problems and such later on in life, but I don't recall it being any more likely than people who don't exercise seriously.

Also, your idea of "low" might be skewed. 50 is "low" compared to the avg of ~60. And the avg of 60 is for a barely active lifestyle. So how would 50 be low in that context?

If you move around all day like humans were meant to, there's no way your avg resting HR is going to be 60+. If it's 60+ and you are highly active, then it is probably more related to weight, or even diet. 40's-50's is optimal. < 40 is where it starts getting to be a problem. <= 30's is where it gets dangerous. But that's if it's like that pretty much every day, at rest. That's when it could indicate that those whatever-they-are-called receptors have been desensitized. If they are desensitized too long, they can become permanently damaged.

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as for caffeine making your HR lower, not sure. it almost always makes mine higher. I really try to avoid it as much as possible now. My best races/workouts have all come without caffeine. Though, my best dunk sessions came with caffeine. I think it helps me more for sprint/explosive efforts, definitely not aerobic. I've had it completely destroy my aerobic abilities several times. So I try to avoid it now, seems like a problem.

If you rarely consume caffeine and then you have once in a while  then i can expect it to increase HR. But if you have it regularly, maybe b/c it makes your heart work more efficiently too (thus lower resting HR?). Im not sure but ive noticed it decreases mine. I think your observations are explained by being more sensitive to caffeine that it reduces performance with too large a dose? smaller dose prob wud help performance while you're not sensitised to it

i was sensitized to caffeine when it destroyed my stomach.

now, my GU packets with caffeine is 20-40mg, which is nothing. Even that can cause my RPE to shift negatively.

IMHO, if you're not getting caffeine from "natural sources", and instead in artificially high concentrations, probably not the best thing if you're worried about your heart. Have to be careful, especially with supplements that are full of junk.

pc!

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