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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The GUILT/SCARE you into going/staying vegan thread
« on: February 10, 2018, 07:21:52 pm »I think you're right about there being no good reason to support the meat industry. It's just what people do because it doesn't require going against the grain and taking on the personal burden of such a big issue.
It's definitely something I will consider more seriously when I'm older, living on my own and have sorted out other things in my life.
I like the idea of hunting. Giving an animal (what can be called) a natural life cycle death and hunting ethically where animals are in overpopulation, possibly damaging to the environment makes sense to me. Many animals hunt and I'm sure some previous generations of humans were really reliant on that too.
I could never hunt, but that's a great point.
Once in my life, I shot an animal (bird) with a pellet gun (when I was like 12?) .. Maybe I just wanted to see how it felt. I cried myself and still look back on it with shame. I never did anything like that ever again. Not an ounce of joy/fun from that moment. If I had to kill animals for food, I wouldn't. I can deal with unfertalized hen/chicken eggs and such, no problem. But killing an animal, impossible for me, except in self defense. But that's a completely different scenario.
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What do you all think about the argument that the individual cannot make any real change with such a big issue? This is the argument I would make normally against going vegan, but lately I feel a need to be responsible for things I care about even if it doesn't make a huge difference.
I also don't want to be overwhelmed with the amount of things I do that support activities I don't agree with. Shopping at walmart, eating mcdonalds, not picking up trash etc. This girl I know literally takes it upon herself to pick up trash in the city on the way home from work. I can't dedicate my whole life to avoiding contributing to big problems..
that girl is a boss.
my Mom used to do stuff like that. She also taught me early not to litter and such, just simple things. Then, when you're with coworkers or friends and they litter, it's like a "bombshell", or at least that's how it feels to me. I mean I try to be nice about it, like no dude i'll throw that out etc.. but it's interesting what kind of feelings it creates, almost like a little "stab". That's probably how people feel when they grow up with parents who teach them how to eat "more ethically" (or vegan) etc. ie, it's hard to acquire that kind of "visceral reaction" to something late in life, i've found. When it's engrained in you since a young age, it's a completely different experience.
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And where would I draw the line? I don't think killing rats is morally wrong. I'm not sure how I feel about killing a rabbit.
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