Author Topic: Chris' training journal  (Read 87823 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

adarqui

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 30416
  • who run it.
  • Respect: +7440
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1425 on: January 13, 2019, 02:21:01 pm »
+2
After a month of no squatting or deadlifting....my knee feels AMAZING. I was debating adding a single squat/dead low volume day to workouts but then I jumped 44" RVJ in warmups last night on a sub par runup. That's without any strenuous/dedicated explosive work. I was shocked. BW was at 190.2lbs without shoes as well. So now... IDK what to do lol

no idea either, but that's absolutely awesome. lol.

as for squatting/deadlifting etc, if it ends up exacerbating knee tweaks, stay away from it as much as possible, or go alot lighter (higher rep) & see if that helps.

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1426 on: February 14, 2019, 07:00:20 pm »
+2
Still here. Still lifting. The last two weeks I've cut back on volume for upper lifts and switched to a routine of one heavier leg day (still working my way up slowly) and one explosive more volume oriented day for legs. Doing the second for upper body in an attempt to keep the body "shocked".

So, say Thursday I'll lift "heavy" legs. Tonight it's deadlifts, then accessories. So Sunday I'll hit some explosive stuff and add volume on lunges/etc. Next Thursday I'll squat. So far I feel very refreshed. Curious to see where the "gains" (re-gains? Lol) will stagnate. BW seems to be around 188 consistently. I've started adding some cardio work on upper body days and that's showing some body composition "fixes" where I havent ate clean as I should be lately.

Overall I feel pretty good. I'm in the gym only 4 days a week so more hoops. Timing is off on dunks but the spring is slowly returning. Last night I was easily able to hit one handers and light two handers in layup lines with my shoes untied! I was quite pleased.

Oh and I've added a more strenuous/challenging box and depth jump regimen to warmups, so thatay account for something as well since pushing myself again on them.
Insert motivational quote here...

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1427 on: February 14, 2019, 07:02:13 pm »
+1
Oh also took a few short vids last week of said box jumps and such. I'll upload after work/lifts tonight!

Keep at it guys!
Insert motivational quote here...

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1428 on: February 15, 2019, 01:48:26 am »
+2
Oh and lost in the 5v5 tournament last night. Sucks. But that team has won the last 4 years so... Meh.

Got picked up for a 3v3 league that started Tuesday (I got the call last night). Showed up today post work with half the first half gone (got off late) no warmups, no stretch, eek. Went OFF. 27 in the remaining 10:03 of the half. 40 in the second. Fuck me I played like old me. Actually had a jumper going. Badass. No to go deadlift ...
Insert motivational quote here...

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1429 on: February 16, 2019, 08:21:25 pm »
+4
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohBngibAec" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohBngibAec</a>

A few box/depth jumps from warmups last week (few separate days).


Played at UT last night. Shins we're sore from playing Wed, Thurs, then lifting Thurs night but I played well. Had a handful of decent in game jumps including one where I went after a missed 3 (I back ironed it) and was looking at the rim. I landed quite in shock as was most everyone else there lol! Even the two guys I play with regularly said I was up there. Definitely my highest jump in a while.

Was supposed to lift shoulders/core this AM but woke up with sore hams/lower back/shins. Decided extra rest was necessary and slept another 3 hours before work. I feel much better now. Will hit shoulders tonight after work.
Insert motivational quote here...

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1430 on: February 18, 2019, 04:09:49 pm »
+3
Last night, leg day, BW at 191. Shit.

Made it through warmups and my 3x15 lunge/SL RDL stuff then had some stuff come up so no accessory work or core. Probably will help with recovery. Will hammer core and some cardio tonight after back work.

Did snag a vid of some more warmup work. GCT is a little long but getting better.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T09qcm2Z1o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T09qcm2Z1o</a>
Insert motivational quote here...

adarqui

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 30416
  • who run it.
  • Respect: +7440
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1431 on: February 18, 2019, 06:04:25 pm »
+2
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohBngibAec" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohBngibAec</a>

A few box/depth jumps from warmups last week (few separate days).

floating.

Quote
Played at UT last night. Shins we're sore from playing Wed, Thurs, then lifting Thurs night but I played well. Had a handful of decent in game jumps including one where I went after a missed 3 (I back ironed it) and was looking at the rim. I landed quite in shock as was most everyone else there lol! Even the two guys I play with regularly said I was up there. Definitely my highest jump in a while.

daaaaaaamn.

Quote
Was supposed to lift shoulders/core this AM but woke up with sore hams/lower back/shins. Decided extra rest was necessary and slept another 3 hours before work. I feel much better now. Will hit shoulders tonight after work.

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1432 on: February 28, 2019, 03:11:20 am »
+3
Thanks Andrew! I'm trying. Still haven't put it together with some real SPEED into the plant yet tho. Especially off the dribble. Frustrating but I'm trying to be patient. I think the extra weight is more impactful than I first thought.

Trying to find a halfway decent compromise for upper body days to keep some strength but drop a few lbs in mass/size. Struggle is real because I like the way I look in the mirror...but not on the scale lol!

Got picked up to play in a more competitive Knoxville league that just started (vs the more local one im in) so that will be my Tuesday's (still gonna play the local on off Tuesdays and Thursday s). We won our first game 116-56. Pretty sure that's one of the less talented squads in the league tho. The teams playing after us had some overseas guys including a 6'8 cat that just got in from Spain. Pretty excited for that oh and the floor is INSANE. So much bounce. I was tossing in light two handers in warmups with no where near max effort. Quite shocking compared to the local rec I usually shoot around at that has a DEAD floor.

And thats my updates lol! Taking all leg workouts as they come on a energy/feel level and adjusting accordingly.
Insert motivational quote here...

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1433 on: February 28, 2019, 01:14:15 pm »
+5
SVJ check from last night. Top of the plates is 39". Phone is on the bench so angle is low. Probably 34-35 actual.

Insert motivational quote here...

seifullaah73

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3175
  • Respect: +1285
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1434 on: March 17, 2019, 12:11:13 pm »
0
Great job on the SVJ. Your box jumps look crazy floating.

When you do single leg box jumps, do you have a leg which you are comfortable jumping off and feels natural as compared to another leg which feels unnatural and just less comfortable or are you comfortable jumping off either foot.

For me my left leg, I am not as confident and feels less natural compared to my right foot, which I am comfortable and confident and with sprinting I have my left leg in front.
----------------------------------------------------------------
So, verily, with every difficulty, there is relief.
Holy Quran 94:5
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1435 on: March 17, 2019, 05:36:51 pm »
+2
Thanks guys! Upper body is still being a struggle. Weight is up to 195lbs consistently but I seem to actually be a tad leaner looking at a mirror (vascularity in lower abdominals starting to show again). As for jumping it seems to be affecting my plant speed in PRACTICE much more than in games. Managed a few dunks Friday AM after lifting legs Thursday night. Slow walk up stuff now real ME jumps. Tested a few other plants in the weight room the other day after leg day and managed a 39.5" SLJ off my L leg. Only got 34 off my R tho as my shin kept getting some pains/twinges. Which feels low but, that's normally my weaker leg for SL stuff.

Which goes to what seifullaah asked. Yes, absolutely I am better off my L leg over my R in SL stuff. I'm probably a tad bit if an outlier tho as I'm naturally a lefty but play basketball (predominantly) right handed. This brings up a few key points about rewiring your body as well. As a natural lefty I should jump better off my R leg but years of playing right handed (finishing around the rim mostly R handed) has pushed my L leg to a seemingly more natural state for jumping. Further proof of this is the fact that I still plant better LR on my DLRVJ which is usually consistent for a lefty dunker. Basically it's "proof" that practicing all plants will eliminate various weaknesses and inconsistencies.

Also, lately I've been hammering my "off" plants much more than my dominant plant in warmups to try and balance them out for better athletic performance. This *may* have a small impact on my dominant plant being a tad lower than normal (I got 42.5" clean off 2 steps yesterday post workout. A few weeks ago that was 44" albeit at 6lbs BW less). Just a lot of food for thought.

Tonight is Lunges/Straight leg deads followed by hang cleans and plyo work.
Insert motivational quote here...

Coges

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2517
  • Respect: +1689
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1436 on: March 17, 2019, 06:49:27 pm »
0
Thanks guys! Upper body is still being a struggle. Weight is up to 195lbs consistently but I seem to actually be a tad leaner looking at a mirror (vascularity in lower abdominals starting to show again). As for jumping it seems to be affecting my plant speed in PRACTICE much more than in games. Managed a few dunks Friday AM after lifting legs Thursday night. Slow walk up stuff now real ME jumps. Tested a few other plants in the weight room the other day after leg day and managed a 39.5" SLJ off my L leg. Only got 34 off my R tho as my shin kept getting some pains/twinges. Which feels low but, that's normally my weaker leg for SL stuff.

Which goes to what seifullaah asked. Yes, absolutely I am better off my L leg over my R in SL stuff. I'm probably a tad bit if an outlier tho as I'm naturally a lefty but play basketball (predominantly) right handed. This brings up a few key points about rewiring your body as well. As a natural lefty I should jump better off my R leg but years of playing right handed (finishing around the rim mostly R handed) has pushed my L leg to a seemingly more natural state for jumping. Further proof of this is the fact that I still plant better LR on my DLRVJ which is usually consistent for a lefty dunker. Basically it's "proof" that practicing all plants will eliminate various weaknesses and inconsistencies.

Also, lately I've been hammering my "off" plants much more than my dominant plant in warmups to try and balance them out for better athletic performance. This *may* have a small impact on my dominant plant being a tad lower than normal (I got 42.5" clean off 2 steps yesterday post workout. A few weeks ago that was 44" albeit at 6lbs BW less). Just a lot of food for thought.

Tonight is Lunges/Straight leg deads followed by hang cleans and plyo work.

Nice!
"Train as hard as possible, as often as possible, while staying as fresh as possible"
- Zatsiorsky

LBSS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11431
  • plugging away...
  • Respect: +6067
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1437 on: March 17, 2019, 11:13:49 pm »
+3
FWIW i had a similar experience with preferred leg changing through jumping practice. i'm a LR planter but left-footed for kicking anything and for as long as i can remember i was more comfortable SL jumping off my right leg than my left. those things shouldn't go together, especially since i'm right-handed so layups should be more natural off my left foot. at some point in the last year or so of the dunk quest that finally became the case, left foot SL jumps were at least as natural and high as right foot jumps. that's without practicing them especially, just lots and lots of planting and layups from both sides for warm up.

point is, chris is absolutely right that practice can groove new patterns and open up new possibilities.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

handstand + backflip + flag

seifullaah73

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3175
  • Respect: +1285
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1438 on: March 18, 2019, 08:56:57 am »
0
FWIW i had a similar experience with preferred leg changing through jumping practice. i'm a LR planter but left-footed for kicking anything and for as long as i can remember i was more comfortable SL jumping off my right leg than my left. those things shouldn't go together, especially since i'm right-handed so layups should be more natural off my left foot. at some point in the last year or so of the dunk quest that finally became the case, left foot SL jumps were at least as natural and high as right foot jumps. that's without practicing them especially, just lots and lots of planting and layups from both sides for warm up.

point is, chris is absolutely right that practice can groove new patterns and open up new possibilities.

def agree. I am also right handed but can't kick or use the left leg for any thing. But with sprinting I was told that the left leg is the front leg if I am right handed and I have just been doing sprint starts with left leg in front and feel more comfortable but cannot jump off left leg as I always have been kicking with my right a lot and with boxing I have my right foot forward and my right hand forward even though the power hand should be behind the left jab hand. but yep as been stated practicing a lot will make it more comfortable.
----------------------------------------------------------------
So, verily, with every difficulty, there is relief.
Holy Quran 94:5
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High

ChrisM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
  • Respect: +1245
    • View Profile
Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1439 on: March 19, 2019, 01:15:55 am »
+2
FWIW i had a similar experience with preferred leg changing through jumping practice. i'm a LR planter but left-footed for kicking anything and for as long as i can remember i was more comfortable SL jumping off my right leg than my left. those things shouldn't go together, especially since i'm right-handed so layups should be more natural off my left foot. at some point in the last year or so of the dunk quest that finally became the case, left foot SL jumps were at least as natural and high as right foot jumps. that's without practicing them especially, just lots and lots of planting and layups from both sides for warm up.

point is, chris is absolutely right that practice can groove new patterns and open up new possibilities.

def agree. I am also right handed but can't kick or use the left leg for any thing. But with sprinting I was told that the left leg is the front leg if I am right handed and I have just been doing sprint starts with left leg in front and feel more comfortable but cannot jump off left leg as I always have been kicking with my right a lot and with boxing I have my right foot forward and my right hand forward even though the power hand should be behind the left jab hand. but yep as been stated practicing a lot will make it more comfortable.

That actually makes sense. Think about it, rightys usually jump off their left leg. That leg is also the "plant" leg for a right footed kick. Basically your "dominant" leg should (read: usually) be the opposite of your dominant hand. So in sprints it makes sense to push off that leg first. It's more "explosive/strong". It sounds like not jumping off your left for SLRVJ is simply a progressively natural occurrence for you since in other ways you use it as a right handed person normally would. If I'm reading this correctly.
Insert motivational quote here...