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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2009, 10:34:38 am »
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hey what your height vertical ?

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2009, 12:28:25 pm »
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sup bowen.

what do u mean by height vertical?

last week was an enforced off week for me, due to having to report to camp and stuff.

but last week's game was good. i got half my palm above the rim on one attempt. 1 solitary effort only tho :( the rest after that werent worth mentioning.

funny thing is, i now feel better jumping off 2 feet, instead of 1...

hey adarq, whats the idea behind midfoot or forefoot strikes before jumping?
i mean, i always transition from heel strike, to jump off...
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2009, 04:14:04 pm »
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sup bowen.

what do u mean by height vertical?

last week was an enforced off week for me, due to having to report to camp and stuff.

but last week's game was good. i got half my palm above the rim on one attempt. 1 solitary effort only tho :( the rest after that werent worth mentioning.

funny thing is, i now feel better jumping off 2 feet, instead of 1...

hey adarq, whats the idea behind midfoot or forefoot strikes before jumping?
i mean, i always transition from heel strike, to jump off...

nice work on that one jump.. sometimes thats how it goes though, most times when i'd PR, as soon as I pr'd i would fall off pretty bad.

well, the stronger your calfs/ankles become, the more you will naturally shift from heel->toe to midfoot->toe.. its harder to go midfoot->toe though if you dont plant somewhat sideways..

i wouldnt try and change your foot strike, just keep on strengthening your ankles/calfs and it will happen naturally..

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2009, 05:18:00 pm »
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nice work on that one jump.. sometimes thats how it goes though, most times when i'd PR, as soon as I pr'd i would fall off pretty bad.

well, the stronger your calfs/ankles become, the more you will naturally shift from heel->toe to midfoot->toe.. its harder to go midfoot->toe though if you dont plant somewhat sideways..

i wouldnt try and change your foot strike, just keep on strengthening your ankles/calfs and it will happen naturally..

peace man

i was reading the tnation vert thread, dude there was talkin abt how midfoot-toe is better.
why is this the case anyway?


cos i remember u talking abt how this was better too, when u posted pics of that golden child dunks...
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2009, 02:22:47 am »
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i was reading the tnation vert thread, dude there was talkin abt how midfoot-toe is better.
why is this the case anyway?


cos i remember u talking abt how this was better too, when u posted pics of that golden child dunks...

ya its better IMO.. but, its not something you should 'try' to do.. i think it should happen naturally.. meaning, your training should strengthen your calfs/ankles so much that your body will 'give you that midfoot jump' instead of wanting to 'heel strike'..

mid-foot is better because it loads the calfs/achilles more... the 'spring' gets loaded better.. heel strikes results in alot of wasted energy.. but imo, you cant just try and go midfoot and have it work instantly, because, if you're not going mid-foot naturally, you're just forcing an issue that your body isnt ready to deal with..

if that makes sense..

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2009, 09:56:06 pm »
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for what it's worth, t-nation sucks because, while there might be a few grains of wisdom here and there, you have to sift through a gigantic amount of sneaky marketing, lies and outright bullshit to get to it. categorical advice like "landing on your mid-foot is better" is crap without context. land on the part of your foot that makes you go the highest. if that changes over time, cool. i doubt it's your heel because people tend to decelerate by landing on their heels, but having never seen you jump, i have no idea.
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2009, 12:52:16 pm »
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for what it's worth, t-nation sucks because, while there might be a few grains of wisdom here and there, you have to sift through a gigantic amount of sneaky marketing, lies and outright bullshit to get to it. categorical advice like "landing on your mid-foot is better" is crap without context. land on the part of your foot that makes you go the highest. if that changes over time, cool. i doubt it's your heel because people tend to decelerate by landing on their heels, but having never seen you jump, i have no idea.

ya definitely, i really can't read any of their articles.. so much hype in them.

now it's all about "the perfect rep" and gaining 20 lb muscle in 4 weeks or whatever the claim is.. "anaconda, better than roids" <- wtf?

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2009, 02:34:10 pm »
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yea, i seriously dunno whats inside that anaconda and surge fuel stuff, but they sayin like its magic...

its not strength per se, but i've always naturally heel strike for jumping for as long as i remember...
dun reckon i'd change however much stronger i might get...  :-\
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2009, 02:48:20 pm »
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yea, i seriously dunno whats inside that anaconda and surge fuel stuff, but they sayin like its magic...

its not strength per se, but i've always naturally heel strike for jumping for as long as i remember...
dun reckon i'd change however much stronger i might get...  :-\

About Anaconda: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplement-marketing-on-steroids-by-alan-aragon.html

About Surge: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/an-objective-comparison-of-chocolate-milk-and-surge-recovery.html
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2009, 05:49:29 pm »
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yea, i seriously dunno whats inside that anaconda and surge fuel stuff, but they sayin like its magic...

its not strength per se, but i've always naturally heel strike for jumping for as long as i remember...
dun reckon i'd change however much stronger i might get...  :-\

i changed, i was always a heel striker.. then all of my best jumps cam from planting in sideways without much heel contact - especially not a direct heel strike.. my ankle strength improved and my plant changed.

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2009, 07:59:14 pm »
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1st workout in the new year.
Happy New Year everyone!

500m fast jog

5 x 50m dashes, 75-85% intensity

3 x 5 bounding

3 x 5 single leg depth jumps, off mid shin height

3 x 8 single leg rebounding box jumps, mid shin height

2 x 5 single leg depth jumps, height just below knee cap

2 x 5 depth jumps, height a few inches above knee cap

4 x 10 pullups

2 x 5 depth drops, done by jumping off a knee height bench

btw adarq, can u do something to the reply box?
when i quote someone and reply, the view keeps jumping back to the first line of the reply after every keystroke, making the screen jump up and down, doing ankle hops repeatedly :p

funnily, as im typing this, its gone beyond the standard length, so there's a scroll bar at the side, but there's no jumping up and down. initially i thought it might be due to overlong replies...

gonna read up on that link u provided to the vertical summit thread... i skimmed thru ytd, and couldnt make much sense thus far.
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2010, 04:29:15 am »
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btw adarq, can u do something to the reply box?
when i quote someone and reply, the view keeps jumping back to the first line of the reply after every keystroke, making the screen jump up and down, doing ankle hops repeatedly :p

whoa, weird? no idea whats going on with that..

anyone else getting it?

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2010, 07:30:15 am »
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btw adarq, can u do something to the reply box?
when i quote someone and reply, the view keeps jumping back to the first line of the reply after every keystroke, making the screen jump up and down, doing ankle hops repeatedly :p

whoa, weird? no idea whats going on with that..

anyone else getting it?

Me too, exactly as described but only with internet explorer , everything is ok with firefox ( what a surprise!!! ).
woot

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2010, 10:59:57 am »
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btw adarq, can u do something to the reply box?
when i quote someone and reply, the view keeps jumping back to the first line of the reply after every keystroke, making the screen jump up and down, doing ankle hops repeatedly :p

whoa, weird? no idea whats going on with that..

anyone else getting it?

Me too, exactly as described but only with internet explorer , everything is ok with firefox ( what a surprise!!! ).

dammit... i hate internet explorer so much.. there's others bugs in this site/forum that exist in IE, but do not exist in firefox/safari/chrome.. :<

ill try and fig it out but i havnt been able to figure out a few others.. heh :/

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2010, 07:12:07 pm »
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Me too, exactly as described but only with internet explorer , everything is ok with firefox ( what a surprise!!! ).
Microsoft is death.
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