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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #180 on: August 29, 2016, 07:25:19 pm »
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yep lol, i'll put them back up if you want though. you wanna further study my jump form? lol

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #181 on: August 29, 2016, 07:30:25 pm »
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do you. i'm curious though.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #182 on: August 29, 2016, 07:32:40 pm »
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back up.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #183 on: August 29, 2016, 08:42:12 pm »
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word, they look really good. nice job.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #184 on: August 30, 2016, 12:26:02 am »
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went to a random outdoor court today to put up some dunks on a rim that i think was 9'8. was wearing my runners, and it was kinda slippery, ended up having a bit of left knee soreness from that session.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #185 on: August 30, 2016, 09:35:40 pm »
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was thinking about starting squatting again, but after that bit of knee pain yesterday, i think i'm gonna hold off for a while longer. what do you guys think about high bar ATG squats vs trap bar deadlifts btw? i know adarq does the quarter pin squats, and the trap bar deadlift seems similar to it.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #186 on: August 31, 2016, 10:06:43 pm »
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was thinking about starting squatting again, but after that bit of knee pain yesterday, i think i'm gonna hold off for a while longer. what do you guys think about high bar ATG squats vs trap bar deadlifts btw? i know adarq does the quarter pin squats, and the trap bar deadlift seems similar to it.

correction: adarq does the half squats and/or half pin squats :D

I actually did "lockouts" more than quarter squats.. I rarely used quarter squats. I did however just unrack really heavy weight to help me feel mentally stronger with 400+ on my back etc.. That helped me when I was working on hitting 405 lb. on the half squat. I definitely feel like it helped, but it was alot of "mental benefit" .. and I had the safety pins set really high in case I needed to drop it. I also wouldn't recommend that though, that's more of an advanced technique and it's not really needed until you're pretty much peaked in your abilities (it might still not be needed though).

I had a trap bar when I was working s&c... loved it. it's a great tool. If I had one, i'd definitely prefer it more than deadlifting.

also as far as your knee, what are you jumping in "runners" (running shoes) for? Waaay back when I was just getting into vert, I was jumping in running shoes.. absolutely hated it.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #187 on: August 31, 2016, 11:23:12 pm »
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was thinking about starting squatting again, but after that bit of knee pain yesterday, i think i'm gonna hold off for a while longer. what do you guys think about high bar ATG squats vs trap bar deadlifts btw? i know adarq does the quarter pin squats, and the trap bar deadlift seems similar to it.

correction: adarq does the half squats and/or half pin squats :D

I actually did "lockouts" more than quarter squats.. I rarely used quarter squats. I did however just unrack really heavy weight to help me feel mentally stronger with 400+ on my back etc.. That helped me when I was working on hitting 405 lb. on the half squat. I definitely feel like it helped, but it was alot of "mental benefit" .. and I had the safety pins set really high in case I needed to drop it. I also wouldn't recommend that though, that's more of an advanced technique and it's not really needed until you're pretty much peaked in your abilities (it might still not be needed though).

I had a trap bar when I was working s&c... loved it. it's a great tool. If I had one, i'd definitely prefer it more than deadlifting.

also as far as your knee, what are you jumping in "runners" (running shoes) for? Waaay back when I was just getting into vert, I was jumping in running shoes.. absolutely hated it.

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ah i see. probably gonna stay away from those lol. yea, i can kinda tell that you'd prefer the trap bar over straight for deadlifting. can see that you're more on the quad dominant side through your two foot jumps and pin squats, so would be guessing you'd prefer the extra knee involvement that you get from the trap bar.

and no idea, but they were working fine, they're actually the shoes i'm wearing in my vid where i dunked on 10 in my backyard. i think it was more so the court, but i'm gonna try it out again in ball shoes.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #188 on: September 02, 2016, 02:46:40 pm »
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Trap bar deadlifts 275 lbs x 10, 315 lbs x 6, x 6.

Pretty easy with 3 plates. Definitely felt my quads way more. Very short ROM, I brought my chuck taylors to lift today, and that made it better. Usually I lift in my running shoes and they have a thicker sole along with a bit of elevation in the heel.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #189 on: September 05, 2016, 01:53:09 pm »
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anyone ever think about getting into personal training for this type of stuff? i've considered it, but it seems like once you teach the basics (squats,deadlifts,sprinting,jumping, etc) theres not much to it, just a long grind. seems like if i wanted to train a client for an extended period of time, i'd have to hold back and draw the process out to try and make the training look more complicated than it actually is lol.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #190 on: September 05, 2016, 03:35:19 pm »
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anyone ever think about getting into personal training for this type of stuff? i've considered it, but it seems like once you teach the basics (squats,deadlifts,sprinting,jumping, etc) theres not much to it, just a long grind. seems like if i wanted to train a client for an extended period of time, i'd have to hold back and draw the process out to try and make the training look more complicated than it actually is lol.

adarq used to do it full-time, t0ddday does it on the side.

i've thought about it and put my toe in the water this year with my parents as "clients." it's a lot more complicated than teach the basics and then monitor the grind. teaching someone how to do something is hard, and everyone is starting from a different place, with different goals.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #191 on: September 05, 2016, 05:31:58 pm »
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Ah I see. I was thinking more specifically with doing it for athletes. Even more specifically for people that want to dunk lol. If I can earn decent money training people then that'd be great, but if not itd still be an enjoyable thing to train someone to dunk.

Trap bar deadlifts 315 lbs x5,5,5
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #192 on: September 05, 2016, 08:33:17 pm »
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anyone ever think about getting into personal training for this type of stuff? i've considered it, but it seems like once you teach the basics (squats,deadlifts,sprinting,jumping, etc) theres not much to it, just a long grind. seems like if i wanted to train a client for an extended period of time, i'd have to hold back and draw the process out to try and make the training look more complicated than it actually is lol.

ya well there's a few types of clients.. the first type who will pay you just to teach them the basics etc.. and the second type (athletes) who will pay you to plan out all of their training, make adjustments based on their life/work/competitions/fatigue/adaptations etc.

making it look more complicated than it actually is, might get a few people interested initially.. but, in the end people want results. So keeping things simple/clean/free-of-fluff&filler is the best way to go, IMHO.

not sure how you should go about starting out.. some people get degrees, degrees + certs, certs alone, or none of that -> each can be successful or not.

I mostly enjoyed working in s&c .. It feels absolutely amazing when you have clients/athletes show up day in day out & you have direct control of their training (and possibly nutrition), and then you see them morph over time, peak for competition/a season, achieve their goals etc.. We experience it here on the forum at times, but it would be extra-enjoyable if we were all training together, celebrating PR's, amp'n up for workouts/sessions etc. It can also be very stressful.. ESPECIALLY when athletes are getting "worse" due to some concentrated loads/volume/intensity, and they start to question your programming. When they start bouncing back from it and supercompensate, then they understand -> and won't bug you much ever again about it.. but initially it can be frustrating. But ya it's just stressful regardless, IMHO. I mean people put alot of trust in you - and you're dealing with the human body + their lifestyle + their mentality .. it's not like a computer where I can just program something, run it 10000 billion times and it does the same thing.. So in my experience there's definitely some added stress to trying to "program athletes". Also, it usually means so much to your clients.. lots of these goals have been life long dreams - and in many cases, dreams that people they've interacted with have said will never happen etc.. So ya it can be extremely fulfilling, daunting, stressful, etc.

I didn't enjoy training people who didn't want to train though.. It's one thing that bothered me alot. I experienced it in 2 internships and when I worked as an s&c coach for Memorial Sportscenter. We trained kids, high school athletes, college, pro etc.. At every level, there were people who just "showed up to show up". Or in the case of kindergarten through high school, kids who showed up because their parents paid. I dno, personally it was just annoying and I didn't like it. That's one thing that caused me to drift away from the field a bit. On several occasions I actually tried to see if I could ban certain kids from sessions, or move them into their own knucklehead session with all of the other knuckleheads who didn't care.. Having to train 90% "go get it types" and 10% "knuckleheads" in one session is beyond frustrating... It also does a disservice to the go-get-it types. And FWIW, it's not only non-pros.. I've dealt with pros who didn't want to train either - mostly during my first internship.

Then I caught the programming bug again and went in that direction.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #193 on: September 11, 2016, 06:19:23 pm »
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i see. yea, that seems like a nice experience for you. extremely stressful yes, but helping people achieve their goals and seeing the results has to be really rewarding. i actually don't think i'm gonna get into this whole thing as a job now though lol. i honestly don't know how i'd deal with that type of pressure and having people put their trust in you. also, this is just stuff i enjoy, so i don't wanna make my work the same thing as my job.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #194 on: September 13, 2016, 11:32:01 pm »
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trap bar deadlift 315 lbs: 6,5,5.