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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by LBSS on June 19, 2025, 06:17:28 pm »
yeah honestly the more i thought about it, the more ridiculous it seemed.

at any rate, it's fun to think about the different angles and the nerdy stuff but let's be real: i am at a pretty modest level of fitness and my concerns should be (1) consistency and (2) getting overall volume up. 80%+ of volume at easy effort, two hard workouts per week, and at least one but ideally two dedicated strength workouts per week. worrying about power is just a silly aside.

how do you mean, counting breaths? i use steps-per-breath as a rough proxy for effort, which is something that daniels talks about.

- dreadmill "hills" x 50:00, 8.38 km

- strength circuit
-- 2 x [3-way calf raise x 10; tib raise x 15]
-- 2 x [band walk x 20/side; SLRDL +20 x 8/leg]
-- 2 x [ISO heel floating BSS x 30s; med ball hamstring curl x 12]
-- 2 x [SL sideways hops x 25; deep squat hold x 45s
-- pull ups myo reps x 8+3+3+2
-- dips myo reps +10 x 8+3+3
-- pallof press +12.5 x 10,10/side

good workout.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by Joe on June 19, 2025, 03:56:12 pm »
migraine started friday night and is just now starting to dissipate close to midday on sunday. not an auspicious first week for my 50-miler build.

update: or second week, obviously. woke up this morning without a headache for the first time since last friday. will go for a cautious run later, probably inside because it's hot today and that just seems like asking for trouble.

btw @joe, i watched a short from will o'connor where he talks about how easy it is for a run with hills on it to slip out of zone 2 when you're climbing, even if HR doesn't change. apparently, if you're aerobically fit enough, you can buffer the extra costs of running uphill for a little while (i guess longer and/or steeper the fitter you are) without it affecting HR. an argument in your favor against relying on HR as the primary metric. seems like you can kinda fudge a power-based workout with just the watch but to do it right you have to get a stryd pod. oh boy, more gear... :uhhhfacepalm: i'll probably stick with HR as the main thing and use pace for intervals.

gotta be honest that read like bs and i went to watch and i still think that's bs. first of all, stryd/power meters for running stink. secondly, if you're buffering that stuff, then like so what it's probably not really creating extra fatigue? and third, like who cares if it's a "zone 2" run (love this interview for debunking the zone 2 hype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6DhfMJH84E -- gist, in terms of adaptation, doesn't really matter that much what zone you're in, just aim for whatever combination let's you accumulate the most training).

way i think easy runs is that hr is great for setting an upper bound, b/c if you're below some arbitrary fairly low number (i use 70%, which probably puts me in zone 1 rather than 2 anyway), you're defo going easy enough. pace fine too but hr does a better job of keeping me honest (you can see how slow i go, when the same calculators i use for interval paces are saying i should be doing like 5:50 or whatever for easy runs), and i have to take my easy runs very easy so i can do 3 sessions a week.

and yeah, for intervals, i like pace as the like framework, and then hr as the progression metric, kind of like sticking with the same weight/reps and having more reps in reserve over time.

I read this article the other day: https://modeltheruncom.wpcomstaging.com/2025/05/17/respiration-rate-1/

that left me feeling very intrigued by respiration rate as a metric. have been counting breaths during some sessions to try and build an internal sense of where various thresholds sit in relation to each other. might try out the step test this weekend on a treadmill if i feel like hiding from the sun for the saturday session.

Also, wishing you the best with the migraines!
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 19, 2025, 03:41:09 pm »
19-06-25

Run --
w/u
3 x (10' on / 1' off) [4:33, 4:35, 4:34]
c/d

Total - 10.23k, 53:45

Notes

HR 161/164/164. Higher than last week but cats woke me up at like 5am so, unusually, I had a coffee before this run. Also it's just gross hot lately, even if mornings are cooler.

Respiration Rate in last minute of each rep was like 36-38.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Raptor's log
« Last post by Raptor on June 19, 2025, 08:57:34 am »
Gym work 29:

Bench press:

20x6
20x6
40x3
60x3x9
60x5
(pretty good, but difficult)

Deadlift:

20x5
60x5
90x5
110x3
130x1
140x1 (ties old age :personal-record:)
90x5
90x4 (grip failing)


Glute cable kickbacks:

4 pins x 15 (each leg)
5 pins x 15, 12 (each leg)

Bodyweight: 90.7 kg (-0.4 kg)
Exhaustion level: 9.5/10

Comments:

Bench was pretty difficult but did all the reps so I'm not going to complain. Deadlift was good, 140 was back pulled, mixed grip, felt pretty much as a max rep. But considering this is the third consecutive day of training after heavy squats, track work and trap bar deadlifts yesterday, again I'm not going to complain.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by LBSS on June 19, 2025, 08:25:59 am »
migraine started friday night and is just now starting to dissipate close to midday on sunday. not an auspicious first week for my 50-miler build.

update: or second week, obviously. woke up this morning without a headache for the first time since last friday. will go for a cautious run later, probably inside because it's hot today and that just seems like asking for trouble.

btw @joe, i watched a short from will o'connor where he talks about how easy it is for a run with hills on it to slip out of zone 2 when you're climbing, even if HR doesn't change. apparently, if you're aerobically fit enough, you can buffer the extra costs of running uphill for a little while (i guess longer and/or steeper the fitter you are) without it affecting HR. an argument in your favor against relying on HR as the primary metric. seems like you can kinda fudge a power-based workout with just the watch but to do it right you have to get a stryd pod. oh boy, more gear... :uhhhfacepalm: i'll probably stick with HR as the main thing and use pace for intervals.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by LBSS on June 18, 2025, 05:49:49 pm »
later in the day yesterday the headache faded and then returned as a worse migraine than the one i'd had over the weekend. ended up vomiting and then going to the ER, where they gave me a super-NSAID plus anti-emetic plus diphenhydramine and a liter of saline and sent me home. next time i need to go to the ER for something non-life-threatening, i'll go back to that one (georgetown). today i've felt basically hungover, there was obviously no way i could do anything resembling training. definitely time to see a neurologist.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 18, 2025, 03:48:43 pm »
18-06-25

Run -- 7.88k, 52:43

Notes

Surprisingly sore from last night's quick lift. Triceps especially like 8/10.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Raptor's log
« Last post by Raptor on June 18, 2025, 12:50:04 pm »
Track work 7:

Dynamic warm up
------------
30m sprints ++ broad jumps/double leg bounds ++ medium box depth jumps
Did 3 sets of this "superset": 1 sprint, 3 broad jumps or 1 4-double leg bounds and 3 depth jumps

Also did some jumps with the PowerJumper (1 band) and some trap bar deadlifts with 100 kg (surprisingly found a trap bar)

Best broad jump: 2.35m
Best 4-consecutive 2-leg bounds: 10.05m (+95cm)

Bodyweight: 89.9 kg (-0.3kg)

Here's a video of the double leg bounds:

https://youtube.com/shorts/JGV4cHeuo-M?si=ml8sMH9O67qCf-KT
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 17, 2025, 01:42:35 pm »
17-06-25

AM

Run --
w/u
5 x (6' on / 1' off) [4:31, 4:26, 4:26, 4:26, 4:29]
c/d

Total -- 9.02k, 47:53

PM

1a DB Pullover 32.5 x lots, fewer
1b Chin BW x lots, fewer

2a DB Fly 17.5 x lots, fewer
2b Dip BW x lots, fewer
DB Inc 17.5 x lots

Notes

Took me like 15 mins longer than normal to get out the door this morning. Just so tired. I genuinely yawned during the 3rd rep. Yawning with 160 HR lmao.

Max HR 167, avg for reps 155 (so 159 for last two). So I guess good on that front, just not enough mental drive to give more. Short one as well b/c of that. Still, got the work in.

ETA: https://www.strava.com/pros/105366367?num_entries=20#interval?interval=202509&interval_type=week&chart_type=miles&year_offset=0

winner of 2024 chi/2025 boston does a lot of his easy runs at 6:00 k pace, lmao
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Raptor's log
« Last post by Raptor on June 17, 2025, 10:09:15 am »
Gym work 28:

Bench press:

20x6
20x6
40x6
65x6
70x1
65x4
65x4 (will stay at 65)
40x16


Low bar squat:

20x6
60x6
100x3
120x2 (very difficult)
100x4 (difficult)
100x4 (difficult)


Did a handful of leg presses, leg extensions, ab wheel rollouts and landmines

Bodyweight: 89.9 kg (0.0 kg)
Exhaustion level: 10/10

Comments:

Bench was pretty good, squats were difficult. Did some more quad work as my quads don't want to grow. Workout was tiring. 120x2 was max at this point in the squat (2nd rep was not well controlled on the descent)
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