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Who are the strongest NBA players?
« on: May 25, 2017, 06:37:28 pm »
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Obviously we don't know this, but if you were to guess.  Here is my guess off the top of my head:

Squat: 1. Isaiah Thomas (he is short, so he needs explosiveness) 2. Blake Griffin 3. draymond 4. James H 5. Dwight Howard

Bench: 1. Kevin Love 2. Dwight Howard 3. David West 4. Nate Robinson (he is in dleague tho) 5. Bledsoe

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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2017, 07:01:14 pm »
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Lebron, Westbrook, & Deandre Jordan have to be on there.. monsters.
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2017, 07:23:26 pm »
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I just thought of Paul Milsap, Gordon Hayward, tristan thompson, kemba walker......  jabari parker is def going to be in it once he rehabs.... andre drummond is a beast in terms of strength...

the thing with deandre is that he is so long, tough for him to lift a lot imo, ofc he is strong tho..... harrison barnes seems pretty strong,

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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2017, 01:08:13 am »
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i think shaq once said that yao was the only player he had a hard time moving in the low post. legs like tree trunks.
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2017, 04:54:41 am »
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Here's a handy link : http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/all/all/all/all/1/bench_press/desc

It has data from 2000 and on i think, it is already sorted by bench performance.

Funny thing, i haven't even heard of any of those guys on top lol

From a quick look, i am impressed by Shelden Williams from the top 10. He is 6'7'' and his wingspan is... 7'4''. That's a huge disadvantage for bench, same body has to travel the bar a lot more. Yet he got 25 reps, beast!
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 11:46:47 am »
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Quote from: vag on May 26, 2017, 04:54:41 am
Here's a handy link : http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/all/all/all/all/1/bench_press/desc

It has data from 2000 and on i think, it is already sorted by bench performance.

Funny thing, i haven't even heard of any of those guys on top lol

From a quick look, i am impressed by Shelden Williams from the top 10. He is 6'7'' and his wingspan is... 7'4''. That's a huge disadvantage for bench, same body has to travel the bar a lot more. Yet he got 25 reps, beast!

Too bad that thing doesn't have squat, a more impressive lift for bball players, probably because afraid of injuries.....

Yeah it's unfortunate that not everyone with the same set of skills can make the NBA.  For example 200 players are equally skilled for 5 positions.... 195 of them has to be waived.... comes down to fortune/luck with this scenario which happens more often than not.

The most impressive lift for an NBA player is the squat, because it correlates to speed and vertical.....

Someone that is faster and more explosive has the edge during crunch time, because his fatigued state is still faster/higher than say someone less exposive's fatigued state.

I think sports science will continue to evolve and the "trainers" that study this science yet doesn't have much personal experience, will figure out what we figure out from actually doing it.
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 02:37:56 pm »
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It's interesting how out of the 4 big sports in America, BBall players are probably the least explosive/ strong.  You'd think BBALL comes after football, but i doubt it.

Take a look at baseball players, they are certainly faster than NBA players.  Football is a no brainer.  And hockey is not really comparable.

Soccer players are obviously faster than BBall players. 
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2017, 02:40:39 am »
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Quote from: fast does lie on May 26, 2017, 11:46:47 am
Someone that is faster and more explosive has the edge during crunch time, because his fatigued state is still faster/higher than say someone less exposive's fatigued state.

See this is the problem with thinking that basketball players will be super strong. Someone that is less fatigued overall will be in a better position to make smarter decisions and less turnovers than someone stronger who is more fatigued.

Having said that I saw something recently where Steph Curry trap bar deadlifted 400. Not strong for an elite athlete but it certainly surprised me.
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2017, 03:34:42 pm »
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Quote from: Coges on May 27, 2017, 02:40:39 am
Quote from: fast does lie on May 26, 2017, 11:46:47 am
Someone that is faster and more explosive has the edge during crunch time, because his fatigued state is still faster/higher than say someone less exposive's fatigued state.

See this is the problem with thinking that basketball players will be super strong. Someone that is less fatigued overall will be in a better position to make smarter decisions and less turnovers than someone stronger who is more fatigued.

yup. conditioning & skills pay the bills in most team sports.



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Having said that I saw something recently where Steph Curry trap bar deadlifted 400. Not strong for an elite athlete but it certainly surprised me.

very strong for an NBA player his height/weight, definitely. Relative to his BW, it's probably elite level among NBA players. NBA athletes also need some kind of height/bw relative measurement too.. You could be 240 lb with a 900 foot wingspan, making things like T-BAR DL and BENCH much more difficult.



All I know about Curry, is he can hit 3-pointers from ~15 ft behind the NBA 3-pt line with accuracy, in the 4th quarter.  :ibsquatting:  :ninja:
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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2017, 07:25:00 pm »
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Quote from: Coges on May 27, 2017, 02:40:39 am
Quote from: fast does lie on May 26, 2017, 11:46:47 am
Someone that is faster and more explosive has the edge during crunch time, because his fatigued state is still faster/higher than say someone less exposive's fatigued state.

See this is the problem with thinking that basketball players will be super strong. Someone that is less fatigued overall will be in a better position to make smarter decisions and less turnovers than someone stronger who is more fatigued.

Having said that I saw something recently where Steph Curry trap bar deadlifted 400. Not strong for an elite athlete but it certainly surprised me.

Wow where did you get that info?  That is impressive for a skinny nba player.... The funny thing is most big men's routine lil men should do in the NBA.  They have big man doing some of the trap bar dl, 1/4 squats, and such.... because they think that helps their standing vj when grabbing rebounds/putbacks....

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Re: Who are the strongest NBA players?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2017, 09:51:50 pm »
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Quote from: fast does lie on May 27, 2017, 07:25:00 pm
Quote from: Coges on May 27, 2017, 02:40:39 am
Quote from: fast does lie on May 26, 2017, 11:46:47 am
Someone that is faster and more explosive has the edge during crunch time, because his fatigued state is still faster/higher than say someone less exposive's fatigued state.

See this is the problem with thinking that basketball players will be super strong. Someone that is less fatigued overall will be in a better position to make smarter decisions and less turnovers than someone stronger who is more fatigued.

Having said that I saw something recently where Steph Curry trap bar deadlifted 400. Not strong for an elite athlete but it certainly surprised me.

Wow where did you get that info?  That is impressive for a skinny nba player.... The funny thing is most big men's routine lil men should do in the NBA.  They have big man doing some of the trap bar dl, 1/4 squats, and such.... because they think that helps their standing vj when grabbing rebounds/putbacks....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-can-deadlift-400-pounds/

I listened to this interview with Ryan Flaherty where he talks about his "force number" being based on the Trap bar DL and how improving that lift is a predictor of sprint times and vert. He has some interesting thoughts on training too and outlines pretty much the entire routine that he uses for people.

http://tim.blog/2017/05/07/ryan-flaherty/

Obviously taken with a grain of salt

https://bretcontreras.com/you-got-gurud-max-relative-trap-bar-deadlift-strength-perfectly-predicts-speed-power-and-endurance-performance/

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