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hi, if you find yourself or someone else ego-lifting, do a quick post to keep yourself/someone in check, to prevent injury.

ego lifting, ego training, ego XYZ

out of everyone on here, i'm probably the most guilty of it.. 100 total walking lunges with 30 lb db's? i mean come on wtf?

some of us need extra help in defeating this mental monster who seeks to derail us.

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 03:36:08 am »
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my current ego issue:

combining my SLRVJ prep with jogging has massively fatigued my lower back => STOP SLRVJ'n WHILE JOGGING UNTIL IT'S 100%.

work around:
1) continue jogging (without the SLRVJ prep)
2) incorporate SL box jumps instead

other than that, i'm doing pretty good.. i've been avoiding pushing the intensity on squat due to my anti ego lift protocol.. its simply nowhere near the appropriate time for me to go intense on squat. down the road, sure, but right now after coming off a 1 year training vacation, it would be absolutely idiotic for me to ego-squat.

thanks AELS!!!

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 04:16:00 am »
+1
Recovering from this disease myself. I cringe looking at my older videos. I have a squat morning done from the bottom of a squat with over 300lb. Horrible looking deadlifts that are set down like a terrified camel.
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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 04:35:55 am »
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paused reps help get the ego-lifting in check..  :headbang:

(.. just did paused calf raises with 635lbs today.. lol..so much for that plan)
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reach - 7'8" (92") |paused full squat - 495x1| standing VJ - 40"|

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 04:37:07 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1VUi7Gpcdo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1VUi7Gpcdo</a>

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2012, 05:20:43 am »
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^^^Awesome idea.
I think i have killed my lifting ego for good, have done so many deloads to fix dorm, stopped partial squatting , stopped squat-mornings , sent my working load down to 60kg/132lbs in squats 3 times lately in perfecting form iterations. Most recent achievement, dropped RDLs working load from 252 to 176.
Now the bad news: I can't let my quad heal! I stretch it , i foam roll it , i rest it and when it stops bugging a few days i stop SMR and i push again and re-injure it. I have noticed it responds bad to 'volume' squatting, eg 3x5 , not the day that i squat but the next one, but i still don't change my squat schedule. I also go out and jump on concrete. Supposedly they are sub-maximal jumps but actually they are ME to the point i feel that if i push more i will strain it! WTF , i am carrying a slightly injured quad for over 5 months now!!!  :uhhhfacepalm:
MINIMIZE SQUATS TIME UNDER TENSION!!!
TOTALLY PHASE OUT JUMPS!!!
KEEP STRETCHING/FOAM ROLLING EVEN WHEN IT FEELS HEALED!!!
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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2012, 09:01:17 am »
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Do hip oriented exercises like straight leg deadlifts and good mornings for a while, see what happens.

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2012, 12:37:24 pm »
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^^^Awesome idea.
I think i have killed my lifting ego for good, have done so many deloads to fix dorm, stopped partial squatting , stopped squat-mornings , sent my working load down to 60kg/132lbs in squats 3 times lately in perfecting form iterations. Most recent achievement, dropped RDLs working load from 252 to 176.
Now the bad news: I can't let my quad heal! I stretch it , i foam roll it , i rest it and when it stops bugging a few days i stop SMR and i push again and re-injure it. I have noticed it responds bad to 'volume' squatting, eg 3x5 , not the day that i squat but the next one, but i still don't change my squat schedule. I also go out and jump on concrete. Supposedly they are sub-maximal jumps but actually they are ME to the point i feel that if i push more i will strain it! WTF , i am carrying a slightly injured quad for over 5 months now!!!  :uhhhfacepalm:
MINIMIZE SQUATS TIME UNDER TENSION!!!
TOTALLY PHASE OUT JUMPS!!!
KEEP STRETCHING/FOAM ROLLING EVEN WHEN IT FEELS HEALED!!!
:pissed:  :pissed:  :pissed:

damn..

ya the 'keep stretching' thing is important.. got to keep that tissue pliable or it just gets wrecked when it re-tightens.. i've had quite a few quads pulls growing up, had to stretch them like crazy for months.

it's so hard to stay submax on jumps, might not even be worth going to a court.. i know it's very hard for me to hold back.. maybe instead for a while  do some jumps in a pool or something, or box jumps etc.. something where you can completely control the environment.. if all you have is an 18" box, you won't be enticed to go ME.

actual leg extensions on a machine can really help with pulled quads too.. really light, slow and controlled. sometimes it's nice to isolate a damaged muscle, because during squats, other knee extensors could be overcompensating for the damaged one, which would result in the damaged one not being rehabbed properly. so you might think you're strengthening it, but in reality, you're not, because everything is learning to kick in and take over for it.

good post.

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2012, 01:37:41 pm »
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^Thanks for the insight man. I did some leg extensions too , kingfish suggested them. Like stretching , when i felt i was healed i dumped them! Maybe i will bring them back , SL that time , just work on the injured quad. I'm ok with jumps , i will replace them with sprints. Most important is keep stretching and foam rolling daily. I will also swith to MSEM for a while to shorten the time under tension and see what happens.
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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 07:53:00 am »
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note to self:

focus on multiple set light 20 rep squats. stop wimping out and messing with heavier 5's and 10's.

reason: they make my legs/body feel so good + they force me to stay lighter which is part of my current goal.. improve them slowly, but don't go heavy, let the adaptations dictate wheter i move up instead of forcing it.

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 07:57:49 am »
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note to self:

focus on multiple set light 20 rep squats. stop wimping out and messing with heavier 5's and 10's.

reason: they make my legs/body feel so good + they force me to stay lighter which is part of my current goal.. improve them slowly, but don't go heavy, let the adaptations dictate wheter i move up instead of forcing it.

I'm supposed to be doing the same with 10s but there is this reptilian part of my brain which says just keep adding weight, you can always reset it later and perfect form.. lol ego always wins :(
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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 10:22:51 pm »
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just say no to single arm deadlifts.

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2012, 06:48:34 am »
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Should we say "no" to bench pressing?

IMO you can go much safer with pushups/weighed pushups/elevated feet pushups.

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2012, 02:00:24 pm »
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just say no to single arm deadlifts.

lol'd
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Anti Ego Lifting Support Thread (AELS) ::: Save a joint, Save a Life
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2012, 06:29:27 pm »
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Should we say "no" to bench pressing?

IMO you can go much safer with pushups/weighed pushups/elevated feet pushups.

no. single arm deadlifts are dumb.