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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #120 on: May 27, 2016, 01:45:34 pm »
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i have right knee discomfort and occasionally pain as an LR planter. left hip, right knee.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #121 on: May 27, 2016, 09:18:44 pm »
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Oh I see. I'm guessing its probably the reverse in the RL plant, so that makes sense why it bothers my left knee. Guess I'm gonna keep working hard on being more hip dominant, and stay with my LR plant.

Edit: Also, is your right knee pain above or below the knee cap?
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #122 on: May 28, 2016, 09:55:59 am »
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above.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: run 14+ km
monday: lift
tuesday: run 10-12 km
wednesday: run 10-12 km
thursday: run 10-12 km
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #123 on: May 29, 2016, 08:25:43 pm »
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I see. Yea, thats the same for my left leg. Jumping off one foot while being quad dominant wrecked havoc on that tendon. Anyway, been doing a lot of dunking/jumping lately. Left hip getting sore, so thats a good sign. I'd take hip soreness over knee soreness any day now.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #124 on: June 03, 2016, 12:23:38 am »
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Damn, was dunking today and started feeling some pain in my left knee, but this time below the patella. I'm just glad it's below the knee this time though, so its the patellar tendon that I'm feeling it in. Anyone have any tips? I just know now not to push through the pain, as that was what caused my chronic quadriceps tendonitis.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #125 on: June 05, 2016, 10:11:54 pm »
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Hmm, still getting a bit of pain in my left knee during jumping, my quadriceps tendon now too. I'm lucky though that its minor and the pain goes away when I'm done jumping. I guess the two foot jump just is more quad dominant, and there's not much i can do i guess. Especially the LR plant too, I mainly go for right handers and it seems like the most quad dominant jump.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2016, 10:43:29 pm »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjWELd25Vc

Some footage, all 9'6 dunks. Am getting mid 30's in vert for these jumps. I really like coming in from the baseline, and I think Raptor or adarq mentioned something about it too. It sucks that I don't have enough space though, but I definitely feel like I get higher for some reason coming in from the baseline angle.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2016, 01:21:25 am »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjWELd25Vc

Some footage, all 9'6 dunks. Am getting mid 30's in vert for these jumps. I really like coming in from the baseline, and I think Raptor or adarq mentioned something about it too. It sucks that I don't have enough space though, but I definitely feel like I get higher for some reason coming in from the baseline angle.

like i said on youtube: nice jumps.. especially that first one. it's a very springy/bouncy jump, looks very smooth. I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to get up even higher if you had more space/stronger runup. I wouldn't do that though until you feel your knee "issues" are under control. staying submax for now is definitely safer.

TKE's can work wonders for knee issues.. a strong VMO can be the difference between knee pain and health. so that's what I was eluding too last week in my journal, about 'you may be quad dominant, but they may still be weak'. Here's a very simple TKE, it's actually quite effective:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRZsGDiXiU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRZsGDiXiU</a>

if you experiment with those, you want to focus everything on the VMO (teardrop quad).

there's other variations of TKE's, but that one is the most simple variation to experiment with and see if it helps.


ya i loved coming in from the baseline with DLRVJ.. i'm not as comfortable from that angle, with SLRVJ yet.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2016, 04:32:14 am »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjWELd25Vc

Some footage, all 9'6 dunks. Am getting mid 30's in vert for these jumps. I really like coming in from the baseline, and I think Raptor or adarq mentioned something about it too. It sucks that I don't have enough space though, but I definitely feel like I get higher for some reason coming in from the baseline angle.

like i said on youtube: nice jumps.. especially that first one. it's a very springy/bouncy jump, looks very smooth. I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to get up even higher if you had more space/stronger runup. I wouldn't do that though until you feel your knee "issues" are under control. staying submax for now is definitely safer.

TKE's can work wonders for knee issues.. a strong VMO can be the difference between knee pain and health. so that's what I was eluding too last week in my journal, about 'you may be quad dominant, but they may still be weak'. Here's a very simple TKE, it's actually quite effective:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRZsGDiXiU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRZsGDiXiU</a>

if you experiment with those, you want to focus everything on the VMO (teardrop quad).

there's other variations of TKE's, but that one is the most simple variation to experiment with and see if it helps.


ya i loved coming in from the baseline with DLRVJ.. i'm not as comfortable from that angle, with SLRVJ yet.

Thanks dude. I thought my LR jump was still a bit awkward cause I've only been using it for the past year. Have definitely spent more time going RL, but I guess with time the LR will feel completely natural again. These jumps are actually pretty maximal though lol. I think I've mentioned it before, but I just suck at jumping with a longer runup. My quadricep tendonitis/tendonosis on my left knee is more minor now, so I guess it isn't that much of a problem now. Yea, I've heard of TKE's, I'll give them a shot again soon. Other than that, I think I gotta keep deadlifting and leg curling.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #129 on: June 15, 2016, 05:53:15 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0XWDVnttU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0XWDVnttU</a>

What do you guys think of Scotty's jump? i'm trying to emulate his jump, it's just so springy/bouncy. he injured his left knee, too, ACL instead of having tendinosis though.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #130 on: June 15, 2016, 11:29:23 am »
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PB of 10 chin ups this morning.

edit: also a drop step dunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKt7fZ9PNrg

I still have the thing where I'm really good off 1 or 2 steps. Don't jump that much higher off a full approach.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #131 on: June 16, 2016, 11:55:56 pm »
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I wish i could go back in time though, it was the december of 2014 when I was starting to put down very weak dunks off the dribble off my RL plant. very quad dominant back then, i only did olympic style squats with the shoes, going all the way down. the extra thing i was missing back then was hip strength, so i shouldve just started deadlifting like crazy. i think what happened instead was i got sick, lost a lot of mass/strength, and couldn't get that high up anymore, so was kinda discouraged. it was around this time too i found out exactly how easy it was to dunk by palming the ball and going off one foot, so then i decided to change into a one foot jumper lol, which messed up my knee.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #132 on: June 19, 2016, 07:46:55 pm »
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I put more knee drive into my deadlift yesterday, and i had no knee pain. I actually felt most of it in my VMO, so that may be a good sign.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #133 on: June 20, 2016, 06:51:50 am »
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did a bunch of one foot jumps today and am currently regretting it lol. I got a few dunks on camera and 1 thing I notice that I can see clearly is the deep knee bend and forward shin angle I'm getting my penultimate(right) leg. feels like i'm still pretty quad dominant, so am gonna keep streching/foam rolling my quads, and stay away from one foot jumping.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #134 on: June 20, 2016, 05:36:03 pm »
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I put more knee drive into my deadlift yesterday, and i had no knee pain. I actually felt most of it in my VMO, so that may be a good sign.

nice!!! VMO protects dat kneecap.



did a bunch of one foot jumps today and am currently regretting it lol. I got a few dunks on camera and 1 thing I notice that I can see clearly is the deep knee bend and forward shin angle I'm getting my penultimate(right) leg. feels like i'm still pretty quad dominant, so am gonna keep streching/foam rolling my quads, and stay away from one foot jumping.

or.. overanalysis?

I wrote this today in response to some blog article:

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if given the options between 1) being taught how to run & jump "perfectly", vs 2) being able to run & jump completely "mindless", i'd pick #2. The more I "think", the worse I perform. One major, perhaps unintended consequence, of armchair theorists who harp on technique; they plant too many conscious triggers in our brains. The last thing we want to do is start consciously thinking about these things, while actually performing maximally; it should be automatic.. but that can take years of drilling, which may actually be too late for older (~18+) athletes who get addicted to trying to improve their performance. Consciously thinking about technique while attempting to perform maximally can be like hitting a bunch of little CNS speed bumps, IMHO.  If someone could teach me how to execute motor programs with zero thought & maximal intensity... ;f

It's somewhat related to your comment.. the idea that, you see something on video etc, and you analyze it in such a way that it proves to you X Y Z, which might not actually be the case at all.

but ya staying healthy is #1.. just don't get caught up so much in minutia.. you don't know what that shin/knee angle you see, actually means.. hardly anyone does. ;f

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