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attempting to max out at least once a week
« on: March 14, 2013, 08:22:49 pm »
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doing working sets is good.  but why are some of you so adamantly against attempting to max out 1RM.  what is the logic behind it?
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 09:44:11 pm »
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You just found out why you're getting stuck and keep getting pinned.

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 09:46:41 pm »
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and why i make so much improvements.  just watch brother, once i start to cut for real my vertical sky rocket.
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 09:49:18 pm »
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should i go entropy on you guys?  or should i continue making pr's?
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 11:49:12 am »
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a max set is a working set. not sure who you're saying is against working up to a 1RM. i'm doing that right now every workout and loving it. kf does it almost every single day. but there's a difference between trying to hit absolute PR's every day, which is a huge drain on CNS, and working up to a max that you can handle.
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 02:09:38 pm »
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In other words - a difference between a daily max and a true, psyche-out max.

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 08:02:35 pm »
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The training max should have very little grind correct?
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 08:09:59 pm »
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Well yeah, pretty much. It should be very difficult but not at the level where you need to psyche out and burn on the CNS a ton in order to complete that rep.

The idea is to stimulate, not to annihilate. When you psyche out you overload the CNS and you're going to need a ton of recovery time to get back to your old self. A daily max is just a hard rep but nothing so hard that you can't recover from pretty quickly.

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 09:50:32 pm »
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sometimes it is a 295 which is like 90-95% of 1RM can always up off.  Sometimes it is 315 - 330, which is full 1RM, which i am not fully confident i can get up.  Those times i need to get pscyhed out and might cause a scene.  i'm surprised i've yet to shit my pants yet from attempting the 300s
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 10:59:48 pm »
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Hey be optimistic - there's still time!

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 07:01:39 pm »
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The training max should have very little grind correct?

grind as in how smooth upward motion is?
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 08:33:50 pm »
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The training max should have very little grind correct?

grind as in how smooth upward motion is?

Yeah none of those 5 second slow grinders... The rep should slow down a little but not enough to allow a grind
Goal

windmill consistently/ touch top of the square consistently



weight= 193
height= 6'3 1/2
highest touch= top of the square, which is 11'4