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high bar squat vs low bar squat
« on: November 17, 2012, 01:36:13 pm »
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Which is more optimal for vertical jump training?  Discuss.
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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2012, 08:39:13 pm »
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Which is more optimal for vertical jump training?  Discuss.

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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2012, 04:29:37 am »
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legitamate question, but keep the negs coming.
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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 05:52:17 pm »
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high bar IMO. the point of low bar is to lift as much weight as possible, not so much to have as much athletic carryover. olympic lifters use them instead of low bar as they feel it is a better of increasing strength as they are in fact much harder. its a tool to increase VJ/speed, not a predictor, so why would you cheat yourself just to feed your ego? idk thats just my ten cents
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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 06:06:26 pm »
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so why would you cheat yourself just to feed your ego?

To cheat your ego. It's GREAT!

No but for a guy like me with knee issues... it helps. Also if you also do front squats maybe it's a good idea to do low bar squats with PROPER form (leg driven).

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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2012, 12:18:35 pm »
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high bar IMO. the point of low bar is to lift as much weight as possible, not so much to have as much athletic carryover. olympic lifters use them instead of low bar as they feel it is a better of increasing strength as they are in fact much harder. its a tool to increase VJ/speed, not a predictor, so why would you cheat yourself just to feed your ego? idk thats just my ten cents

your ten cents? giving yourself an awful lot of credit there, aren't you? ordinarily it's two. the answer to hyperdunk's question is "it depends." anything beyond that is completely meaningless without further context.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 05:22:43 pm »
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your ten cents? giving yourself an awful lot of credit there, aren't you? ordinarily it's two. the answer to hyperdunk's question is "it depends." anything beyond that is completely meaningless without further context.

my bad, didn't think the slight change monetary value made such a big difference and made me look like a complete tool......

i agree it depends, but in a perfect situation (disregarding body structure, injuries, muscular imbalances, etc) high bar is more ideal than low bar in terms of athletic development. but obviously everyone is different: some people can get results with one, none with the other. some can do one, can't do the other. no athlete perfectly alike.

but thats just my 1/2 cent....
« Last Edit: December 11, 2012, 05:24:25 pm by mdevin93 »
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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2012, 08:39:18 pm »
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anybody mind if I throw in my quarter cent?
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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2012, 09:42:54 pm »
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this debate is boring and has been had over and over again with no resolution whatsoever. no one's cents are worth anything.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: high bar squat vs low bar squat
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2012, 12:43:16 am »
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lol'd at 10 cents and half cent tho


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