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acole & LBSS i chose this specific video between the many existing, exactly because it shows it is NOT fast forward. The first takes are missing frames indeed that's obvious.
But go to 0:24 and re-watch/time it. Shit is real...

okay, in fairness i hadn't bothered to watch past the first take because the editing is so obvious that i didn't get why people were impressed. but still, the 0:24 one doesn't look extraordinary. it's just a really fast dude running fast against slow players.

2642
meant to run this morning but awoke with gnarly neck/headache. stayed in bed. headache dissipating now. most irritating.

2643
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: October 25, 2017, 11:54:54 pm »
weight control? you still seem pretty lean to me.

2644
lol yeah, looks like fast forward because is fast forward.  :ibrunning:

2645
- yoga x ~60 mins
gf took us through some basics and then into a more challenging pose that she's working on. try to do this right now. you cannot.



i'm not even sure i could get as high as this guy:



anyway feel great, challenged legs, core, shoulders, and breath in a way i haven't been doing enough.

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cheers acole. i don't know if i'd count 2:00 500s as "speed" but i would definitely consider adding shorter sprints in somewhere down the line. for the time being i'm happy to build the base of aerobic and running strength at paces that don't take too much out of me or feel like i'm taking an injury risk.

2646
further reflections on the plan:

to hit 30km/week, i would need something like

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DAY 1 (total 4km)
- warm up 500m
- tempo 6 x 500m
- cool down 500m

DAY 2 (total 8km)
- easy run 8km

DAY 3 (total 0km)
- yoga/gymnastics/HIIT

DAY 4 (total 8km)
- easy run 8km

DAY 5 (total 0km)
- rest

DAY 6 (total 10km)
- very easy run x 10km

DAY 7
- yoga/gymnastics/HIIT or rest

okay! that looks doable by the end of the year.

to hit 50km/week, would need something like:

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DAY 1 (total 7km)
- warm up 1km + drills
- tempo 5 x 1km
- cool down 1km

DAY 2 (total 10km)
- easy run 10km

DAY 3 (total 7km)
- warm up 1km + drills
- tempo 10 x 500m
- cool down 1km

DAY 4 (total 10km)
- easy run 10km

DAY 5
- rest

DAY 6 (total 16km)
- very easy run 16km

DAY 7
- yoga/gymnastics/HIIT or rest

gonna take me a good long while to build up to 50km/week.

2647
800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Various Running Articles
« on: October 25, 2017, 01:30:09 am »
recovery runs are crazy slow ~5 min/km... 20km total that day, 2 x 10 km.


 :-[ :'(

2648
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Triathlon sprint prep
« on: October 25, 2017, 01:22:57 am »
3 mile run at 5.4 mph, easy just boring

low energy Eric today it not lack of sleep but lack of food.  I don't eat a lot on midnights so ill have to change that.

or maybe use it as an opportunity to shed a few pounds? calories are cumulative over the course of the week, if you have a few less on some days and then maintenance on other days you'll start losing weight.

2649
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: October 25, 2017, 12:57:23 am »
sick height on the layout.

2650
thanks guys appreciate the help!

you are probably right, that i should more do more "real jumping". it's just that i read in the vjb that too much plyo/jump work is detrimental and with my extra basketball training, which means a lot of running and submaximal jumping->defensive drills, games, shooting drills etc, i thought i should not overdo it.

So if i got you guys right, my template is solid(? ;) ), but i should do more "real jumping" like the toddday method instead of the ankle jumps/tuck jumps and add an extra jumping session. I think about adding it in on friday because even though i dont have a game every weekend, it's most of them.

Questions for the toddays method: how do i know when to stop? it says when you dont get higher from the extra step, but it also says if you dont get higher from the extra step try again. Im a little confused. Also how much rest should i get between jumps?

I probably have alot of videos of me jumping, i will try to upload one tomorrow. Maybe it helps.

Again really appreciate you taking the time to help me. Hopefully i can get over the hump with your help!

videos are definitely useful.

good questions.

the template is solid except, as you said, needs more time for actual jumping at the rim and less supplemental jumping. you can use the basketball training time for max jumps, as well. that can actually be a great time, after you get really good and warm from drills, layups, etc., to do some jumps.

on the T0ddday method, check out the link that adarq shared. there's a different description (clearer than the one i wrote in here, actually). basically you want to practice at the number of steps right beyond the number that gives you the highest jump, until the additional step is adding height. so if you get 33" off a two-step approach but 32" off a three-step approach, it's time to practice the three-step approach until each step is adding power and you're hitting 34"+. then and only then can you add a fourth step. i never went beyond a four-step approach, except when goofing around. fifth step didn't help. YMMV.

with respect to when to stop, IME it's best to jump until you start to lose height consistently. so if you're jumping at around 33" for the day, as soon as you start hitting 31" it's time to call it quits. adarq may disagree, given his experience with much higher volume jumping and having a resurgence late in workouts. but it's also worth noting that even when he was in full jumping mode, with no "cardio" work, he was extremely fit. like, hundreds of DB lunges in a row fit. train hard but listen and be gentle to your body, nothing derails training like an injury.

2651
- run 6.0km in 29:42
pacing was still not great, went out in 4:41 for the first km and the slowed about 6-7s/km (except for km 4 and 5 which were both 5:01). really died on the last lap, until the last 100.

- stretch

no running tomorrow, easy does it.

2652
alright, i'm enjoying running and want to do more. time for a goal. there are no races in islamabad, so i'm gonna have to do time trials on my own. c'est la vie.

TENTATIVE PLAN SUBJECT TO CHANGE AFTER I COME DOWN FROM THE EXTREME TRAINING ITCH I AM CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING:

GOAL 1: sub-23:00 5k by 21 december
GOAL 2: sub-21:00 5k by 21 february
GOAL 3: sub-20:00 5k by 21 april
GOAL 4: run in the khunjerab pass 10k next summer (http://www.irunforsmile.com/khunjeravpassmarathon/)

currently i'm running 10-15km/week and can comfortably run under 25:00 on the track. first order of business is to continue building an aerobic base.

plan to meet GOAL 1 will be as follows:

- build up weekly distance to 25km/week, 4-5 days running/week
- one day/week of 500m tempo practice at 4:30/km pace (e.g. 500m x 6 in 2:15 with 90s rest)
- yoga/HIIT/gymnastics 1-2 days/week (continue rehabbing shoulder)
- test right before vacation

if my brother gets his visa a few days of that will be replaced by some high-ish altitude hiking. will probably not train much while home for the holidays, apart from long walks.

then, plan to meet GOAL 2 will be as follows:

- build up weekly distance to 40km/week, 5 days running/week
- one day/week of 1km tempo at 4:10/km pace
- one day/week of 500m tempo at 4:00/km pace
- two easy days
- one long easy day
- yoga/HIIT/gymnastics 1-2 days/week
- test

plan to meet GOAL 3 will be as follows:

- build weekly distance to 50km/week
- one day/week of 1km tempo at 3:58/km pace
- one day/week of 500m tempo at 3:48/km pace
- yoga/HIIT/gymnastics 1-2 days/week
- test

plan to meet GOAL 4 will be as follows:

- suffer. the khunjerab pass is at 4,700 meters/15,400 feet. i was there in august and even just walking around made me a little lightheaded. the marathon, which i won't attempt, gains 2300m. not sure how much gain on the 10k. in any case the point will be to finish.

2653
welcome. my first and overwhelmingly most important suggestion:

MORE JUMPING. you've got three-step jumps one day a week, and "basketball training" might include max effort jumps for all i know (what does it include?). but you're reasonably strong and lean, and according to some guy you're inefficient. the best way to improve that is through practice.

one of the things that ultimately got me over the hump was the T0ddday method:
1. stand under the rim, jump as high as you can
2. move back and do a one-step approach jump as high as you can
3a. if (2) is the same or lower than (3), repeat (2) until that's no longer the case.
3b. if (2) is higher than (3), move back a little more and do a two-step approach jump.
4a. if two step jumps are the same or lower than one, repeat until they're higher.
4b. if two steps are higher than one, move back and do three steps.
5-?. repeat, adding approach steps until you don't get any more height from added steps. i settled right at a four-step approach for DLRVJ.

the point is to make sure every step you taking is adding power to the jump. no wasted movement.

do that in lieu of some of the supplemental jumps, like ankle hops and tuck jumps. those are fine but not in the same league in terms of importance/effectiveness.

2654
800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: old runners
« on: October 24, 2017, 02:28:52 am »
asked a weird question on this Kenya running IG:

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hey, weird question.. but I think you guys would know. Where are all of the "old Kenyan runners" (let's say 60+ years old). For example, I see tons of photos of older runners in the US, mostly recreational obviously.. but how about Kenyans? I mostly see photos of young guys putting in work, which I understand.. but do people 60+ years old still run often & enter races for fun etc? Or do they have problems running as thy get older, due to all of the mileage they put in when younger? Just wondering if you can provide any insights as to how Kenyan runners, which have the most beautiful form & mindset for running IMHO, function as they get old. Thanks alot!

weird but, just wondering about it.. hope they can provide some info.

edit:

wow they came back with some great info.. look at this reply:

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kenya_experience_iten @andrewdarqui Hey Andrew, great question. In summary the answer is that running is are career choice so when it is done with as a viable career option it is done with all together. Very few former runners continue to run just for fun when their competitive days are finished. In rural Kenya there are very very few who run just for enjoyment or health. It is running ares serious training or not at all. In the cities, the emerging middle classes do run as recreation/fun and you see more of what you have typically described from elsewhere. I expect this will grow as Kenya continues to grow economically but it will be a long time until this idea spreads to the rural areas

damn!

Living in a country that's similar to Kenya economically and with a similar national professional sports obsession (cricket in this case), that definitely scans. Many boys play cricket, and there are amateur and pickup cricket games all over the place for young men. But you don't see old people playing. Exercising for its own sake is basically only for the rich and foreign-educated or raised. The gym my gf used to take yoga clients at charges something like $500/month (!). There are people here who can pay that without blinking but not that many. I met a muscle-bound dude last weekend who owns a coffee shop near my house and also a luxury car importer: he's generationally loaded, and good for him. Even middle class people never, ever look like that.

But as the middle class starts to emerge, exercise is spreading as a hobby. The track I run at is in a very rich area but not all the people there are wealthy: plenty show up in old cars or on cheap motorcycles. I saw some young guys doing boxing training together and there are a couple of MMA-type and other gyms in less-than-rich neighborhoods. That will only grow as time goes on. It's only a matter of time before someone opens a Crossfit box here, IMO, and before yoga spreads from the foreign/rich to the middle class.

But that will happen independently of the national sports obsession, much like the response you got from Kenya on IG. Cricket is linked to national identity and aspiration. Casual exercise is linked to leisure time, to sedentariness and the accompanying weight gain and anxiety, and to disposable income.

2655
- run 4km in 19:59

- walk 0.5km in 4:32

- stretch

was riding the struggle bus this morning, i suspect partly due to the holdover from being dehydrated and having a messed up diet yesterday. knees ached every so slightly after the run, only for about a minute or two but it's the first time that happened since i started running again (the right knee injury thing is different). chalking that up to dehydration as well.

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