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Program Review / Re: Project Vertical
« on: May 10, 2011, 07:11:08 pm »isnt this thread for people that have used a program to post in, stating whether or not they saw gains? because I recomend a product that worked for me, i have some hidden agenda? I dont want to be to specific about what is in the program because I dont think that is fair to Tyler, since he is trying to make a living off of it. But I guess that in its self is the real issue. We all know that there isn't some magical exercise in this program or anyother for that matter, that is going to give you instant inches. In fact if you learn enough and do your research you can make an effective training program for free. But most people either dont have the time or they are just not interested in doing so, for them and for many others purchasing a program is the way to go. Having been someone that has purchased and used many programs along the way, i feel i can help guide these people towards solid programs that will get them real results (with proper work ethic).The emphasis on core stability and activation is very different from my past workouts.
Translation:
Buy the program I endorse.
Instead of doing so, myself and many others that have been down this path and actually achieved results dont go and spread our ideas on these types of forums because the internet know it alls are on patrol to discredit anyone with an opinion other than their own. Btw, this isnt meant as a shot against most, as I have respect for many of the posters on here. The coaches and trainees that share their info for free are here to help us all, some of the other people should quit worring so much about their post count and just learn from the people that know what they are talking about.
What I meant was - instead of answering in a shady manner (basically not answering at all) you could've answer with say an exercise that you thought it helped you.
Say you were doing weighed planks and you felt that helped you. You could've said "Well, using weighed planks I think made a big difference". You didn't have to tell the time per set, how many reps, what weight, you know, the specifics, but it would've been a much better answer than saying "I'm better because I'm better, buy the program if you want to find out how".
You should take a look at how Kelly responds. He never really says stuff that's in his programs per se, but he does answer with a helpful example on how things can be done. That's what I like the most about Kelly.
what are you talking about man? lol, he answered TWICE< he said hes 1. using his hips more, in his lifts and his jumps, and 2. hes emphasizing core stability (anti rotation if u need it in crayon) and activation.
Thats a pretty damn detailed answer without listing out sets, reps, and weight for you. He couldve easily said "this program is INSANE, u have to see it, its SOOO different" and not said anything about what he noticed was different, but instead he gave a legit answer, of the EXACT things HE FELT helped him.
and props on the progress cskin, know youve been working very hard for it.
"Emphasis on core stability and activation" could mean many things. It depends on how each of us understand the words "stability" and "activation". These are loose terms.
That's like me saying "I put emphasis on getting stronger legs". That could mean anything.
lmao, no it cant. it means.........................EMPHASIS ON CORE STABILITY AND ACTIVATION. Thats like him telling you hes squatting with more emphasis on the hips wasnt enough, you want to know how wide his stance is, where he puts the bar, and what kind of underwear he had on, or hes just not right and only "promoting programs".
I don't agree. More emphasis on core stability and activation could really mean anything. He might choose to do heavier squats for example and maybe that's his way to understand "emphasis on core stability". Or planks. Or maybe ab wheels. Or maybe hip flexor stuff. Or so and so. Who knows. That's why I said it's not really an answer.
lol, he already said what he did with his squats up above, and he said hes squatting LIGHTER. so number one silly guess of yours is out. either way the with the other things you listed, ITS STILL MORE EMPHASIS ON CORE STABILITY AND ACTIVATION. If you really need more detail of what he meant why not ask him "can u give an example of what you mean" and I bet he wouldve gladly told you.
Why do we always have to get to this point. Someone asks a thing. The other guys responds just to pretend he's responding. Then the OP needs to ask specifics. Then the other guy might or might not answer and so on and so forth. It's stupid.
It's like me saying "hey man, what time is it" and you answer "well, I can see some light". Well why the heck don't you tell me what the time is and spare ourselves a handful of "blah blah".
And I've seen it happen countless of times. Answers like "Get stronger" or "sprint faster". Oh no, genius boy! And then the same people self-entitle themselves as "no bullshit" and stupid crap like that, to make them, in their minds, think they're superior or something.
Maybe I'm wrong and he didn't meant to put out a "marketing answer", I don't know, but still... an annoying way to answer. Whatever.
I really need to start scamming people for money if they are so "unsensitive" to stuff.
