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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ARowe's Journal
« on: February 11, 2011, 01:13:00 pm »
Quote from: DamienZ on February 11, 2011, 12:21:55 pm
just because raptor fails hard he tries to make everyone else who is successful bad by saying they are on roids and/or the have superior genetics.

Raptor, really, this is so fucking stupid!

I'm genetically different baby! (quoting Brucie from GTA)

But no, you must be crazy to think that guy is natural. Even adarqui addmited he's probably on roids.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfish
« on: February 11, 2011, 01:08:35 pm »
It's called "APLs". Makes you jump 4 inches higher. Banned from the NBA. :highfive:

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Two foot jump technique
« on: February 11, 2011, 01:06:38 pm »
I tend to agree with you in large areas of what you said, but I have personally increased a guy's jump instantly by four inches just by hinting what he should do. He has great strength but he was always jumping "weird", quad-driven etc. I just said to him he needs to throw his legs forward more and use his hips instead of just pushing with his quads that much.

And then he just jumped ~4 inches higher immediately. I was like WTF? I mean really, when I think about it now, that should've been even more shocking than it was. So it works for some people. Not sure if it was some placebo effect where he just said to himself "I'm going to jump higher now, this guy knows his stuff so I'll jump higher" and put more effort into his jump (could've been, who knows?) but he did do what I told him to do in terms of technique and got up higher. It's not like he jumped with the same technique as before and got higher.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Strength rankings
« on: February 11, 2011, 12:48:51 pm »
Quote from: Kingfish on February 11, 2011, 12:08:38 pm
Quote from: Jard on February 11, 2011, 08:26:58 am
GODDAMMIT

Less posting shit, more talking shit aka calling each other pussies and showing off immense strength to prove points.

I'll set it off; WHY did Kingfish ever favourite this video?
Get his ass in the EMO thread NOW



i probably clicked the wrong icon to get useless stuff into favorites.. 

Jard u mad?  :P

LIAR!

What other button could you have clicked instead?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Strength rankings
« on: February 11, 2011, 11:12:01 am »
Quote from: Jard on February 11, 2011, 08:26:58 am
WHY did Kingfish ever favourite this video?

 :ninja:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfish
« on: February 11, 2011, 04:00:54 am »
HAHAHAHA "different wood". Wood sound good as a light material for shoes.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Can I have analysis on my jump technique please
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:26:09 pm »
0:17 looks basically perfect to me... and I never say "perfect".

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:24:34 pm »
Quote from: Dreyth on February 10, 2011, 02:56:48 pm
Oh, and another thing. You're also not lifting any of your body weight with the leg press machine, which you do in a squat.

Btw, that's something nobody realizes. Go ahead, put on a 30lb weight vest and squatting your 5RM will be much more difficult (even assuming that the vest doesn't get in the way or change your form at all). Leg press takes away stabilization needed, lifting at an angle and thus reducing force needed, plus takes away the bodyweight that you have to lift.

No, we do realize it. Lance said that already, that's why I haven't said it myself.

Quote from: Lance
then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: de franco box squats
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:20:28 pm »
Quote from: tw0ey3s on February 10, 2011, 03:42:32 pm
Reactive is what you make of it... "Adarq.org - Dedicated to athletic performance enhancement," ATHLETIC being the key word. No "athletic" positon consists of your ass being lower than your knees, or your knees past your toes. Yes you're right, free squats do strengthen your legs. BUT the risks FAR outweigh the benefits. I'd rather have my knees intact long enough to enjoy the benefits of squatting.

When's the last time you saw a BodyBuilder run the 40? They can't because their joints are destroyed from free squats. (Maybe some roids too.)

This site doesn't know the difference between a Hang Clean and a Power Clean.

You're either a troll or like - very stupid. I mean that sincerely. I wouldn't lie to you.

So, first you take a sentence that talks about reactivity and then YOU talk about ass to grass squats. What's the connection of that with reactivity? You can be reactive regardless of squat depth. So you either don't know what the word reactive means, or you're just... crazy.

Then you say above parallel squats are safer for the knees than full squats. I'll let others address that.

Bodybuilders have joints destroyed from full squats? It's intersting since the bodybuilders are the ones who usually quarter squat most of the time. And roids destroy joints? I was under the impression that they are prescribed after joint surgeries sometimes to help heal joint damage.

A hang clean is a "full" clean from the hang. A power clean is a clean with a high catch that is generally more specific to athletics since the goal is not to move a great weight on a short rom (as in a regular clean) but to move a "decent" weight over a longer ROM (for athletic benefits).

There are lots of clean and snatch variations: hang clean, hang power clean, power clean, clean, clean and jerk, jerk, powerjerk (well not really, but that could be reserved to you).

PS. Watch any great dunker and you'll see the knees going in front of their toes. Is that "100% healthy"? I don't know, especially at those velocities/power. Probably not. But that's not the same as a squat with good form. There are different limb lengths for different people, so deal with it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ARowe's Journal
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:04:02 pm »
Well yeah, and he looks all natural. Just lucky genetics :ninja:

















































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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Two foot jump technique
« on: February 10, 2011, 05:46:00 am »
Well film it so we can have a look

By the way - this is pretty good as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipv_5QIVNt8

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 10, 2011, 03:05:52 am »
Quote from: LanceSTS on February 10, 2011, 02:34:10 am
Quote from: Raptor on February 10, 2011, 02:05:14 am
Quote from: Eric on February 09, 2011, 09:06:02 pm
btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him

I might like it.

There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.

yea, raptor is right.  The fact that you are leg pressing the weight at an ANGLE, not vertically, reduces the load immensely in itself, then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight, then factor in joint angles, rom, etc, and you cant compare loads in leg press/squat accurately at all.

Exactly. Quad strength is not an important factor at all vs these^^^

There's also no need to stabilize the weight and the weight point of pressure is on the hips/low back vs upperback, meaning you have a shorter lever in terms of weight application vs your body.

I mean, imagine if you had the same legs but your torso is 30 feet tall. If you put a bar on your back with the same weight you're squatting now, it's going to feel immense because it's so hard to stabilize a bar that is so far away from the point where the tension is generated (hips/legs).

Same goes with leg length. If you have a very long femur you're going to need a much higher strength base to stabilize the knee in a jump than a guy with a shorter femur.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 10, 2011, 02:05:14 am »
Quote from: Eric on February 09, 2011, 09:06:02 pm
btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him

I might like it.

There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / High reps for "elasticity"?
« on: February 09, 2011, 05:02:48 pm »
I just have a theory, based on nothing than just plain good-ol' right side of the brain intuition, that high rep work helps elasticity. I just can't really explain why, but I feel like high rep lunges or high rep squats (say 20-50 reps per set) help elasticity (elasticity as gains during reactive movements like running one-leg jumps or running two-footed jumps). What do you think?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: de franco box squats
« on: February 09, 2011, 04:58:10 pm »
Well yeah, because the box squat removes like 100% of the reactive component of the squat, and as an athlete you're not glad it does that.

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