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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 07, 2025, 08:05:11 am »
07-06-25

Run --
w/u
10 x (3' on / 1' off) [avg for reps: pace - 4:13; HR - 156; max HR - 168]
c/d

Total -- 11.54k, 1:02:37

chill like 30 mins

Lift --

1A Chin
30 x 9, 7, 5 + BW x 10

1B Dip
20 x 8, 7, 5 + BW x 5

RDL
150 x 5, 4

Zercher
120 x 4, 3

2A Wide-Grip BB Row
80 x 9, 8

2B Incline Fly
17.5 x 10, 8

3A Lateral Raise
17.5 x 14, 10, 8, 6

3B Hammer Curl
17.5 x 7, 5, 4

Notes

Running RPE was like 3-4/10. Felt like I could keep going at that pace indefinitely. First rep was 4:22 as I was feeling it out, and the rest were all 4:11-4:14 pretty much. Guess this is the difference between (a) rolling out of bed, going to the bathroom, drinking a glass of water and starting the run vs (b) getting an extra hour of sleep, having my breakfast smoothie, chilling for an hour then going when I feel ready. Plus also fitness.

Max HR of 168 shows it was very controlled, since that's like 87% max hr, so almost certainly sub LTHR. IIRC, LTHR for running is usually ~87-90% of max HR (so ~167-173 for me). However, the wizardry of intervals.icu insisted that, based on maintaining an avg of 181 for >20 mins during my 5k race, my LTHR cannot be below 177. Tbh based on feel, I think 170 is closer to reality. Ah well doesn't really matter, key is that I am pretty sure that (a) I did not overcook this workout and (b) I do not think I am generally overcooking workouts. Better to go too easy than too hard esp when you're within the ballpark.

Did 8 of the reps on the crappy cinders track in the park that LBSS may recall. Half clockwise half widdershins. The bend of the track has an adverse camber (worse on one of the bends than the other). During the clockwise reps, the right adductor expressed mild displeasure when turning with the adverse camber. Not surprising, since in general my right leg seems to get annoyed when the ground is uneven such that it is higher on the right than the left. Got genuinely 0 idea about what course of action that suggests, and it's never an issue, but I defo do find myself trying to keep right on flat or marginally lower ground when I have the option.

Lifting solid. Might reduce weight slightly on RDLs, just not getting the ROM I want post-run when tired and stiff.

ETA: May experiment with exercises (1) and (3) from this insta post:
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 06, 2025, 04:09:53 pm »
06-06-25

Run -- 7.91, 53:04

Notes

Not adductor issues, so yeah just a sign to warmup for more than 5 mins lol.

Will probably try to do leg lifting tmrw, i.e. same day as session, so that there's two days of easy (L+E) for legs to recover properly before next session.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by LBSS on June 06, 2025, 07:30:13 am »
- run 37:46, 6.79km, strides 4 x 100m w/ walking rest
strides in 16-17s. again, pondering the gap between me and cole hocker is just hilarious. my stride pace today translates to a 4:30 mile.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 05, 2025, 03:57:34 pm »
05-06-25

Run
w/u
3 x (10' on / 90" off) [4:37, 4:30, 4:37]
c/d

9k, 48:00 total

Notes

The slightest bit of adductor funk on the right side. Was super rainy and I was running late, so I just wanted to get this done asap so first rep was begun only 6 mins into the run. I am generally a warmup sceptic, but perhaps a chilly rainy day is a time to extend rather than cut short warmups. Lesson learned.

is there a way to use back roads, even if it's significantly longer? the few times i've run-commuted, i can take a slightly longer route that ends up on a paved running/biking trail. much more tolerable than the most direct route.

Oh yeah I deliberately took the straightshot route just to see what the shortest possible time would be. Think the first 10 mins of the run are going to involve people dodging more or less no matter what, just in virtue of my office's location. The remainder of the run was chill, though as I said somewhat polluted. Not really any options to avoid pollution other than maybe canals/towpaths, but those tend to be jammed with cyclists at commuting times so not sure that improves anything. River possible but probably doubles the distance, and I like being home early.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Loopie's Log
« Last post by LoopieMclooperson on June 05, 2025, 10:33:04 am »
4/29/25 Tuesday
Bench 10x180, 10x180, 10x180.
Dip 10, 10,
Treadmill 45 mins 2.54 miles

5/6/25 Tuesday BW = 186.8
Treadmill 45 mins 2.46 miles

5/8/25 Thursday
Bench 5x185, 3x205, 1x225, 3x225, 7x205, 6x205.
Deadlift 5x185, 5x205, 5x225, 5x225, 5x225.
Dumbbell lunge 10x40, 10x40, 10x40.
Sit up board (6) 20, 20, 20,

5/9/25 Friday
Treadmill 45 mins 3.21 miles (4.7)

5/12/25 Monday
OHP 12x105, 12x105, 12x105.
Pull up 6, 6, 6.
Dip 22, 22, 22.

5/13/25 Tuesday BW = 187.4
Treadmill 45 mins 2.24 miles

5/20/25 Tuesday
Bench 3x185, 2x205, 1x225, 3x225, 6x205, 5x205, 5x205,
Chin up 7, 7, 7.
Dip 25, 20.

5/21/25 Wednesday BW = 188.0
Treadmill 45 mins 2.24 miles

5/22/25 Thursday
Squat 5x135, 8x135, 8x145, 8x145.
Barbell lunge 10x40, 10x40, 10x40.

 5/23/25 Friday BW= 186.0
Treadmill 30 mins 1.46 miles

5/27/25 Tuesday
Bench 10x180, 10x180, 10x180.
Treadmill 45 mins 3.24 miles

5/30/25 Friday BW= 187.6
Squat 5x135, 5x155, 5x155, 5x155.
Deadlift 5x135, 8x185, 8x185, 10x185.

6/3/25 Tuesday BW =187.0
Treadmill 25 mins 1.24 miles

6/4/25 Wednesday
Squat 5x135, 5x155, 5x165, 5x165, 5x165.
Dumbbell lunge 10x35, 10x35, 10x35.
Sit up board (5) 25, 25, 25.

6/5/25 Thursday
Bench 10x180, 10x180, 10x180.
Row 15x75, 15x75, 15x75.
Pull up 5, 5, 5, 5, 5.
Dip 20, 20, 20, 20.


Still improving slowly. Feeling pretty great actually, but my performance and energy are down.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Raptor's log
« Last post by Raptor on June 05, 2025, 08:50:26 am »
Gym work 24:

Bench press:

20x6
40x6
60x6
60x6
60x6 (will move to 65 or 62.5 kg next time)
40x11


RDL:

20x6
60x6
100x6
100x6


Seated horizontal V-grip pulls to chest:

100x8
100x8 (difficult)

Bodyweight: 89.9 kg (-0.6 kg)
Exhaustion level: 7/10

Comments:

Good benching, will move to 62.5 kg next time. RDLs were also good.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by LBSS on June 05, 2025, 07:49:41 am »
yeah i texted a buddy yesterday who's getting back into running after a long layoff when his kids were very little, and has sub-6:00 mile as his main goal. he ran 4:5x in high school, >20 years ago. he's interested in the meet, so i think that's probably happening.

actually, there is a local track club that organizes all-comers meets pretty regularly. i'd just forgotten about them. they're out in the burbs but i have a car now so that's really no barrier.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by LBSS on June 05, 2025, 07:46:03 am »
is there a way to use back roads, even if it's significantly longer? the few times i've run-commuted, i can take a slightly longer route that ends up on a paved running/biking trail. much more tolerable than the most direct route.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Last post by Joe on June 04, 2025, 04:26:22 pm »
04-06-25

AM --
1a Chin
30x9+15x8+BWx10,+7

1b Dip
30x5+15x6+BWx6+5

2a Wide-Grip BB Row
80 x 8, 6

2b Decline Deficit Pushup
BW x 16, 12

Lateral
20x13+9+6+4

PM --
Run 7.25k, 46:30

Notes

Woke up before my alarm but too late to do a meaningful run, so go that quick lifting session in.

Run-commute okay, though the first ~2k or so involved a lot of people dodging and waiting at traffic lights (though only ~90s of paused watch time total, so not too bad). Just felt _very polluted_ to be breathing heavily running along some major arterial city roads. Will keep it in the pocket to do now and then though.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by Joe on June 04, 2025, 04:19:37 pm »
well, once you introduce RPE and grade adjustments then i think we're not that far apart. what i'm trying to get away from is thinking about pace full stop as the main target measure for a workout. power would be better than HR, i gather, but, as you said, it's not as easily available. but pace+RPE tracks pretty closely to HR for me, i think. interesting point about magness and houston, do you remember which video that's from, or where you read it?

Yeah we probably basically agree. I definitely don't think a workout is only good if I hit my paces (and I'm certainly not going to push into red zone to hit it; I'd rather be too slow than too fast). Just a matter of what tool is used to dial in that "right intensity" feeling in the absence of something like lactacte/power.

ETA 3: there is an all-comers track meet near me the last weekend in august. hmmmmmmm...........

do it! track meets as an adult seem hard to come by
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