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i'm hopeless
« on: May 31, 2013, 09:09:04 am »
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So I joined a pretty competitive league.  I must say that though i have been training for vertical religiously the last 14 months, i was actually training for speed.  I did lots of squats and hip extensions and hamstring stuff almost every other day at near 90% RM.  I am overweight but its okay.

Last night i was able to outrun some extremely gifted athletes, but the problem is when ur running at 50mph... ur kind of out of control and u can't get elevation.  I want to be able to run that fast AND get some elevation/control...
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Re: i'm hopeless
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 09:14:17 am »
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That's what I've been saying off myself - it's not that I lack the ability to develop power, it's the lack of control/breaking once that power has been developed.

Yes I can get very fast but once I'm there I don't have good enough breaks to stop/change direction (and jumping is a change of direction from horizontal to vertical). Hence my obsession with the breaks of the body - the quads.

Obviously there are other ways of having good breaks and taking some of the blunt from the quads, like having powerful calves and a good posture (so the glutes get some of the deceleration as well functioning at the hip).

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Re: i'm hopeless
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 09:59:45 am »
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So I joined a pretty competitive league.  I must say that though i have been training for vertical religiously the last 14 months, i was actually training for speed.  I did lots of squats and hip extensions and hamstring stuff almost every other day at near 90% RM.  I am overweight but its okay.

Last night i was able to outrun some extremely gifted athletes, but the problem is when ur running at 50mph... ur kind of out of control and u can't get elevation.  I want to be able to run that fast AND get some elevation/control...

I'm sure that extra weight doesn't hurt your ability to transition from horizontal to vertical at all....

Think about it, what brakes and changes direction better a 3000lb car or a 5000lb car with the same brakes/suspension?
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 10:06:19 am by ChrisM »
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Re: i'm hopeless
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 10:16:43 am »
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brakes.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: i'm hopeless
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 10:37:11 am »
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Re: i'm hopeless
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 04:12:44 pm »
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