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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2015, 01:30:12 pm »
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So I dont watch a ton of boxing but I was watching first take this morning on espn and they had Manny on there as a guest. In one part he stated he wasn't worried about this fight as much as others and SAS lost his damn mind (which is always a trip) but I have to agree withh Manny...PBF ISN'T a "scary" fighter, he lacks KO power butnis a masterful defensive boxer. He out points guys, how is that scary?  Im rhinking what Manny meant was hes not scared of PBF KO'ing him, his punches dont scare him. I kinda got the vibe we're going to see the 'old' Manny, kinda reckless and willing to take some chances. Because lets be real, I don't see Floyd KOing Manny, only way he wins is by decision IMO.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2015, 04:24:14 pm »
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So I dont watch a ton of boxing but I was watching first take this morning on espn and they had Manny on there as a guest. In one part he stated he wasn't worried about this fight as much as others and SAS lost his damn mind (which is always a trip) but I have to agree withh Manny...PBF ISN'T a "scary" fighter, he lacks KO power butnis a masterful defensive boxer. He out points guys, how is that scary?  Im rhinking what Manny meant was hes not scared of PBF KO'ing him, his punches dont scare him. I kinda got the vibe we're going to see the 'old' Manny, kinda reckless and willing to take some chances. Because lets be real, I don't see Floyd KOing Manny, only way he wins is by decision IMO.

Thoughts?

I hope it is the old manny, but i don't think he will be reckless. Floyd may not have KO power, but if you are reckless and just come forward and get countered, the countering punch does not have to be powerfull to knock him out if pacquiao comes at a fast speed in one direction and a punch of medium power like mayweather's but probably a little harder, would have a devestating affect.

So mayweather would still have to be cautious but will have to learn when to identify opportunities to go reckless.

But I don't think recklessness will defeat mayweather's slick movement and defence especially shoulder roll. he will need smart aggressiveness and place his shots correctly and will get the ko.

just my 2 cents
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2015, 09:10:15 pm »
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Finally they both meet face to face at the press conference. Just watched the entire conference.
A lot of tactical sneaky remarks from both side.

Can't wait till the weigh in and then the fight it self just massively awesome.
don't know about the undercards yet.

but one thing that suprised me was that leonard ellerbe was back as ceo, i thought floyd got rid of him.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2015, 08:32:25 pm »
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So I dont watch a ton of boxing but I was watching first take this morning on espn and they had Manny on there as a guest. In one part he stated he wasn't worried about this fight as much as others and SAS lost his damn mind (which is always a trip) but I have to agree withh Manny...PBF ISN'T a "scary" fighter, he lacks KO power butnis a masterful defensive boxer. He out points guys, how is that scary?  Im rhinking what Manny meant was hes not scared of PBF KO'ing him, his punches dont scare him. I kinda got the vibe we're going to see the 'old' Manny, kinda reckless and willing to take some chances. Because lets be real, I don't see Floyd KOing Manny, only way he wins is by decision IMO.

Thoughts?

But this is what can happen if you get too aggressive and aren't worried about getting KO'd by PBF:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_juNg4i61g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_juNg4i61g</a>

Wrecked ^^ You see PBF trying to time him with that punch early on in the round? He basically figured hatton out at that point and knew exactly what to do to end him.

If pac is sloppy and comes in wreckless, it would only be a matter of time before mayweather catches him lethal. Sneaky, fast, right on the button counters don't need lots of power, like seifullaah said.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2015, 02:32:24 pm »
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So I dont watch a ton of boxing but I was watching first take this morning on espn and they had Manny on there as a guest. In one part he stated he wasn't worried about this fight as much as others and SAS lost his damn mind (which is always a trip) but I have to agree withh Manny...PBF ISN'T a "scary" fighter, he lacks KO power butnis a masterful defensive boxer. He out points guys, how is that scary?  Im rhinking what Manny meant was hes not scared of PBF KO'ing him, his punches dont scare him. I kinda got the vibe we're going to see the 'old' Manny, kinda reckless and willing to take some chances. Because lets be real, I don't see Floyd KOing Manny, only way he wins is by decision IMO.

Thoughts?

But this is what can happen if you get too aggressive and aren't worried about getting KO'd by PBF:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_juNg4i61g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_juNg4i61g</a>

Wrecked ^^ You see PBF trying to time him with that punch early on in the round? He basically figured hatton out at that point and knew exactly what to do to end him.

If pac is sloppy and comes in wreckless, it would only be a matter of time before mayweather catches him lethal. Sneaky, fast, right on the button counters don't need lots of power, like seifullaah said.

pc

lol at the video, first the ref stopped the fight and looks at ricky fall over and shows the body language see and then the corner throws the towel in lmao
that is so funny.

exactly my point and it wasn't a straight on countering against the movement like marquez, he actually used the left to his jaw while coming forward instead of a right forward, which shows the power from a lot of different punches affect.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2015, 06:40:52 pm »
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interesting article about mayweather and his place in history: http://deadspin.com/why-floyd-mayweather-is-the-last-of-a-kind-1700672546
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2015, 03:32:15 am »
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one thing not shown, pac's face.. it's been torn up pretty bad, especially in the marquez fights.

still, nice comparison, if accurate. I kind of feel it isn't 100% though :D

power definitely in pac's favor.. but will he be able to connect? and will he not get countered with some serious shots?

pbf all day.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2015, 08:41:50 am »
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one thing not shown, pac's face.. it's been torn up pretty bad, especially in the marquez fights.

still, nice comparison, if accurate. I kind of feel it isn't 100% though :D

power definitely in pac's favor.. but will he be able to connect? and will he not get countered with some serious shots?

pbf all day.

I think pacquiao will be cautious enough to avoid being countered and can identify the oportunity to go aggressive and knock floyd out.
pacman all day

another comparison between oscar and pacquiao is they both go to chat shows like jimmy kimmel and late knight with jay leno or something like this. it was their good luck charms.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2015, 01:44:04 am »
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so it was money in a convincing win. go figure.

odds are this will be the last time i give a shit what happens in a boxing match.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2015, 01:01:16 pm »
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So dissapointed with this match, why is it that whenever someone is infront of floyd they inactive, like manny,  :raging:  :ffffffuuuuuu: i didn't see anything good from pacquiao who had the nerve to think he actually won, so dissapointed with manny.

I was expecting a fast start but didn't see it but floyd used every arsenal he had, the counter which he used soo effectively, especially when manny he likes to wait or rest or try to time floyd just punches him out of it, it was a bad version of maidana vs floyd.

but mayweather also ran alot and holded a lot to keep safe from the power attack and also so the clottey clamshell defence.

floyd does it again. excited at the beginning dissapointed in round 3.

what happened to the cursing and pointing from pacquaio's mother that would have probably helped win one more round lol
but no knockouts even made this even further more dissapointing.

roach was correct in floyd sr being rubbish in the corner, he was giving bad advice, i think he wanted to show off and give unuseful advice, but as roach said as well floyd could do it on his own.

now they both made the same comment thinking they won but I don't know about the injured shoulder what bad timing
who else will they fight.

I liked the lomachenko fight, he is my king of fighter I like the way he bounces and gets in to the side and other side lands combos and moves out and in, just so brilliant.
the santa cruz fight was one sided lol but the other guy looked dazed as soon as he stepped in like he was high or something.

i need to see floyd get knocked down before he retires.  :ninja:
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2015, 04:44:49 pm »
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Maybe I don't know boxing, but how the heck was this a "convincing win by unanimous decision". If it were after me, Manny should've won. More aggressive, more punches hit their target, had the control of the fight etc.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2015, 06:13:52 pm »
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Did you look at the punch counts Raptor? PBF threw more punches more accurately. And he controlled the ring more than Manny, he went where he wanted for most of the fight.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2015, 06:53:06 pm »
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Maybe I don't know boxing, but how the heck was this a "convincing win by unanimous decision". If it were after me, Manny should've won. More aggressive, more punches hit their target, had the control of the fight etc.

convincing is an understatement, he cleaned the floor with manny lol
seriously speaking manny was a disappointment don't know how much to believe about the shoulder but he won convincingly no matter what tactics he used

but it seems all of mayweather's opponents have this paralysis when facing mayweather they stand infront for too long not doing anything because he is soo tricky to time and get in so he had to just jump in and hope for the best lol
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2015, 06:08:01 am »
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2015, 04:31:40 pm »
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I am starting to see a lot of people that think pacquiao won.

these people besides pacquiao are shane mosley, evander holyfield.
I felt pacquiao was the most active but couldn't land much of his punches while mayweather was less active and relied on his countering to win the fight.
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