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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2015, 03:53:27 am »
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2015, 05:49:07 am »
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What fight? I only saw some chickering around.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2015, 10:48:43 am »
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http://deadspin.com/report-floyd-mayweather-received-banned-iv-before-pacq-1729780175?hipra_discussion_redesign=on&utm_expid=66866090-52.r5txldOmRkqnbJxnyozIeA.2

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The day before his fight against Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather took two intravenous infusions totaling 750 milliliters. The bags contained mixtures of saline and vitamins, but their contents are irrelevant: any IVs over 50 mL are strictly banned.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2015, 02:28:37 pm »
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http://deadspin.com/report-floyd-mayweather-received-banned-iv-before-pacq-1729780175?hipra_discussion_redesign=on&utm_expid=66866090-52.r5txldOmRkqnbJxnyozIeA.2

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The day before his fight against Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather took two intravenous infusions totaling 750 milliliters. The bags contained mixtures of saline and vitamins, but their contents are irrelevant: any IVs over 50 mL are strictly banned.

I also read about this, I hope floyd didn't take any banned substances. He himself was pushing random drug testing.
but it may the clutching of straws, but I hope if it causes a rematch then I am all for it, the strict scrutinising and the shaking of the head in dissapointment lol.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2015, 04:44:32 pm »
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http://deadspin.com/report-floyd-mayweather-received-banned-iv-before-pacq-1729780175?hipra_discussion_redesign=on&utm_expid=66866090-52.r5txldOmRkqnbJxnyozIeA.2

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The day before his fight against Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather took two intravenous infusions totaling 750 milliliters. The bags contained mixtures of saline and vitamins, but their contents are irrelevant: any IVs over 50 mL are strictly banned.

i was actually going to post that article:

https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada

scary stuff..

i always think of floyd being "the one who got USADA into boxing" as a good thing ... him calling for stricter testing, being the one who demands it every fight; always thought that was honorable. if he's been doping... :/ :(

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2015, 04:29:31 pm »
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I actually enjoyed the match in slow then actual fast version, as I see the punches landed by pacquiao, mayweather with his clever pot shots and pacquiao is trying to time his punches when mayweather is in the corner but mayweather just jabs just to get his concentration off lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlZrkYxQOe4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlZrkYxQOe4</a>
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2015, 04:53:57 pm »
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ya mayweather is so good on the ropes. loved some of the stuff he did in round 6, including his counter uppercut and his taunting on the ropes. it was hard for pac to let his hands go, mayweather does that to you. you can see pac hesitating. If pac wanted to beat pbf he'd have to not care about getting ko'd and put serious pressure on pbf.. kind of like maidana did in maidana v pbf 1, but pac has more hand speed and better accuracy so he could have eventually inflicted some damage. If you have a style like pac's, you just can't be too cautious vs pbf because he'll make it his fight and pick you apart.

nice highlight vid with the slow mos.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2017, 09:57:21 pm »
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Tyson felt that Pacquiao won it, but I dunno.  Mayweather was just trying to collect the W and paycheck.....
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2017, 01:40:43 am »
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dno, i recall PBF schooling pac. Pac couldn't touch him & was getting countered all day.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2017, 08:38:01 am »
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Was pacquiao a disapointment in this match like clottey was in his match against pacquiao?

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2017, 05:43:22 pm »
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Was pacquiao a disapointment in this match like clottey was in his match against pacquiao?

nah, Clottey was the ultimate disappointment vs pac.. That night, he could have shocked the world IMHO.

pac was also potentially hurt vs PBF .. that rotator cuff injury. I mean, he was throwing fast/hard bombs in the fight, can't see how his rotator was wrecked, seems impossible given the kind of punches he threw.

pac/pbf was a disappointment for other reasons .. i mean it pretty much went how I expected it to go.. It was hyped as some mega-fight that would be packed with action, but given PBF's ability to neutralize offensive fighters like PAC, they gave people the wrong expectations. Pac had no chance vs PBF's genius defense/speed. PBF is the Cobra tamer.. might be boring to lots of fans, but it's impenetrable & no one has really figured out how to crack it.. maybe Maidana a little bit in the first fight, but he came in at like 175 lb and mugged PBF.. That's definitely a good strategy. Notice how he came in lighter in the second fight & tried to actually box? Absolutely 0 chance.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2017, 07:44:15 am »
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Was pacquiao a disapointment in this match like clottey was in his match against pacquiao?

nah, Clottey was the ultimate disappointment vs pac.. That night, he could have shocked the world IMHO.


Was it the constant having his guard up throughout the entire fight? What do you think would have happened if clottey faced mayweather instead of pacquiao at that time?

Clottey's previous fight was against zab judah and miguel cotto and he was more active then, so if he did that it would have been better in the pac fight. But IMHO I don't see any thing in his previous fights that would make it difficult for pacquiao if he was more active, that would put him more in trouble alot being hit from different angles, fighters when they fought pacquiao know his power and go defensive and when they go toe to toe they lose unless he is like marquez or barrerra who don't mind the hits to the face then it would have been just more entertaining but pacquiao's foot work would cause difficulty for clottey.

Clottey's best performance was against margarito but after losing that fight, he had to adopt a different tactic, maybe become more defensive and box more and smart aggression.

It's like to beat mayweather don't box him but go aggressive but to beat pacquiao don't go aggressive but box him and that's what made the pacquaio vs mayweather fight sooo good, they both were each other's weakness. But pacquiao lost that aggressiveness after being ko'd and losing that fire and started to adopt a more boxing aggresive style which is bad against mayweather. If pacquiao who fought cotto and right after fought mayweather, it would have been even more so exciting and more explosive then this current mess of a fight that we saw.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2017, 05:37:40 pm »
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Was pacquiao a disapointment in this match like clottey was in his match against pacquiao?

nah, Clottey was the ultimate disappointment vs pac.. That night, he could have shocked the world IMHO.


Was it the constant having his guard up throughout the entire fight? What do you think would have happened if clottey faced mayweather instead of pacquiao at that time?

Clottey's previous fight was against zab judah and miguel cotto and he was more active then, so if he did that it would have been better in the pac fight. But IMHO I don't see any thing in his previous fights that would make it difficult for pacquiao if he was more active, that would put him more in trouble alot being hit from different angles, fighters when they fought pacquiao know his power and go defensive and when they go toe to toe they lose unless he is like marquez or barrerra who don't mind the hits to the face then it would have been just more entertaining but pacquiao's foot work would cause difficulty for clottey.

Clottey's best performance was against margarito but after losing that fight, he had to adopt a different tactic, maybe become more defensive and box more and smart aggression.

It's like to beat mayweather don't box him but go aggressive but to beat pacquiao don't go aggressive but box him and that's what made the pacquaio vs mayweather fight sooo good, they both were each other's weakness. But pacquiao lost that aggressiveness after being ko'd and losing that fire and started to adopt a more boxing aggresive style which is bad against mayweather. If pacquiao who fought cotto and right after fought mayweather, it would have been even more so exciting and more explosive then this current mess of a fight that we saw.

I think Clottey had the formula THAT NIGHT, if he were to open up his offense more.. I don't think he would have won in a rematch. But I think he could have potentially stolen that fight on the cards, had he fired more shots from behind his impenetrable defense.

When you go into a full shell like that, it's fairly easy to block most fighter's offense.. but even Pac has traditionally been able to penetrate that. He couldn't penetrate it AT ALL that night. So in theory, if Clottey were to have fired off his decent jab more from behind that shell, and followed it up occasionally with power shots, I think he could have made it a very interesting fight... but only for that fight, not a rematch.

So I think Clottey just had a *chance* to steal a decision that night. Stealing a decision can still be impressive, especially given Clottey had no real chance according to anyone.

Clottey is really good at throwing shots out of a full shell like that.. not many people are. That's a very difficult way to box. So he just really had to accept some more risk, which is easier said than done. I mean technically Pac's speed froze him.. So Pac deserves the credit for making Clottey useless.

Clottey had huge potential.. That Pac fight kind of ruined him because people saw him play it extremely safe in a fight against next level competition.




As for Pac vs PBF, I really don't think there's any version of Pac which can beat PBF. Pac is too small. The only way to beat PBF is to overpower him with strength/size, and even then it's almost impossible -> PBF is too fast.. He's a cobra charmer like I always say. The more dangerous you are, the easier it is for him to tame you.. because everyone who is so dangerous, is not used to not being able to touch their target at all.. PBF is just playing that flute, shutting down your ability to box properly. Your only chance is to rough him up and make it a very dirty fight.. But you need to be "bigger".. Pac is just too small for that IMHO.. Pac could NEVER rough up Floyd.

I really wanted to see GGG / PBF.. I still think PBF wins that. GGG would get tamed like everyone before him IMHO.

*Maybe* Anthony Joshua could beat floyd..... lmao.

Maybe i'm biased but I think Floyd is one of the greatest BOXING geniuses of all time. He isn't the most exciting fighter in the 147+ weight class, but he was absolutely destroying people in lighter weight classes.. He has brittle hands and knows who he is as a fighter, he never tries to be something he's not ... ie, like Berto trying to fight like Floyd using a philly shell and getting massacred. Most fighters seem to "change", whether it's the crowd influencing it, anger, pre-hype fight, wanting to prove something, etc.. There's subtle or large changes between fights. Floyd used the same formula to defeat "everyone". It's Floyd's defensive genius that makes him undecryptable. He's perfected his style. Floyd imitators usually get wrecked.

Zab Judah is arguably faster than Floyd, and had a few good rounds.. Floyd figured him out and made him useless.

Castillo is the only one to ever really "box" floyd and give him a real challenge IMHO.. but Floyd killed him in the rematch.

Floyd played with DLH also .. Seemed like he just wanted a massive rematch, but no one wanted to see it, so that backfired. lmao.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2017, 06:05:21 pm »
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just felt like re-watching one of my favorite floyd performances. i've posted it several times on this site. This is basically NEO from the MATRIX.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R3z91fxEcI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R3z91fxEcI</a>

Most brutal non-KO beatdown i've ever seen..

Floyd's patience is absolutely astonishing. This is such an incredible performance IMHO. Next level shit. Also a key thing to note: they mention he's wearing gloves considered to be "pillows" to protect his hands. Floyd rarely wore "dangerous gloves" like most fighter's do, he always went for the safer/extra padding gloves @ 147 & up. Another thing to consider..

That performance against Gatti is a damn "masterpiece". The speed is on another level. The counters are on another level. The patience is on another level. The relaxed, non-wasted movement is on another level.

Mindblowing...... IMHO.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao - May 2, 2015
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2017, 08:11:13 am »
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just felt like re-watching one of my favorite floyd performances. i've posted it several times on this site. This is basically NEO from the MATRIX.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R3z91fxEcI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R3z91fxEcI</a>

Most brutal non-KO beatdown i've ever seen..

Floyd's patience is absolutely astonishing. This is such an incredible performance IMHO. Next level shit. Also a key thing to note: they mention he's wearing gloves considered to be "pillows" to protect his hands. Floyd rarely wore "dangerous gloves" like most fighter's do, he always went for the safer/extra padding gloves @ 147 & up. Another thing to consider..

That performance against Gatti is a damn "masterpiece". The speed is on another level. The counters are on another level. The patience is on another level. The relaxed, non-wasted movement is on another level.

Mindblowing...... IMHO.

lol at the entrance of floyd. Also back then they used to show the judges faces but now they don't.
omg the first round the ref drama, floyd just took advantage, gatti should have defended himself instead look at the ref like ortiz did.
damn the speed and the counters of floyd. Floyd hands are so fast he can punch widthraw and come back with the punch again and do multiple times.
by round 4 gatti is already frustrated and has lost hopes of winning during the round. damn the finish blows to the body.

Do you think floyd lost to castillo in the first fight. one thing floyd does too annoy his opponents in the ring is either use elbow or holding or any tactics repeatedly.
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