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J Strength Cond Res. 2009 Jul;23(4):1282-6.
Effect of delayed-onset muscle soreness on elbow flexion strength and rate of velocity development.

Nguyen D, Brown LE, Coburn JW, Judelson DA, Eurich AD, Khamoui AV, Uribe BP.

Human Performance Laboratory, Department of Kinesiology at California State University, Fullerton, California, USA.
Abstract

Eccentric muscle actions cause muscle damage and lead to delayed-onset muscle soreness (DOMS), which may impair performance. The purpose of this study was to examine the effect of DOMS on elbow flexion strength and rate of velocity development (RVD). Nineteen college male subjects performed 6 tests (pre- and posteccentric and every 24 hours for 4 days). In the preeccentric tests, each subject reported his arm pain and then did 5 concentric repetitions of elbow flexion/extension on an isokinetic dynamometer at 240 degrees x s(-1). Each subject then completed 6 sets of 10 eccentric elbow flexion actions at 30 degrees x s(-1) and finished with a posteccentric test with another 5 concentric repetitions at 240 degrees x s(-1). On days 1-4, each subject reported his arm pain and then did 5 more repetitions at 240 degrees x s(-1). Analysis was performed on the values for DOMS, peak torque (PT), and RVD. For DOMS, scores on the posteccentric test (2.34 +/- 2.53), day 1 (3.18 +/- 2.18), day 2 (3.21 +/- 2.91), day 3 (1.81 +/- 1.78), and day 4 (1.02 +/- 1.30) were all significantly (p < 0.05) greater than the preeccentric scores (0.00 +/- 0.00). For PT, the scores on the posteccentric test (22.40 +/- 8.87 ft x lb(-1)) and day 1 (23.88 +/- 9.00 ft x lb(-1)) were both significantly less than on the preeccentric test (29.56 +/- 8.42 ft x lb(-1)). The RVD scores on the posteccentric test (1505.73 +/- 462.12 d x s(-1) x s(-1)), day 1 (1571.55 +/- 475.99 d x s(-1) x s(-1)), and day 2 (1546.99 +/- 494.52 d x s(-1) x s(-1)) were all significantly less than on the preeccentric test (1719.86 +/- 473.18 d x s(-1) x s(-1)). This suggests that muscle damage may cause significant decreases in elbow flexion concentric strength and RVD even as DOMS remains elevated.

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J Strength Cond Res. 2010 Aug;24(8):2042-9.
Acute effects of high-intensity dumbbell exercise after isokinetic eccentric damage: interaction between altered pain perception and fatigue on static and dynamic muscle performance.

Sakamoto A, Maruyama T, Naito H, Sinclair PJ.

Graduate School of Decision Science and Technology, Department of Human System Science, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Tokyo, Japan. s_akihiro@hotmail.com
Abstract

This study aimed to determine whether high-intensity dumbbell exercise involving both concentric and eccentric contractions would provide a temporary alleviation of delayed-onset muscle soreness (DOMS). It also examined the effect of alleviated muscle soreness on dynamic muscle performance using a stretch-shortening cycle (SSC; peak angular acceleration and velocity of the elbow during both lowering and concentric phases) to provide indirect evidence that DOMS contributes to the dynamic performance decrement after eccentric injury. Thirteen untrained adults performed 30 maximal isokinetic eccentric contractions of the elbow flexors to induce eccentric damage. Five sets of arm curls using a dumbbell (equivalent to 70% of isometric maximal voluntary contraction) were then performed until failure on days 1, 2, 3, and 5 of recovery. Muscle soreness significantly decreased after each session of dumbbell exercise (p = 0.001). Isometric strength further decreased immediately after dumbbell exercise, indicating muscle fatigue (p < 0.001). Dynamic performance variables were less affected by fatigue, however, with performance being reduced only for peak lowering velocity (p < 0.001). Other measures of dynamic performance were relatively constant after dumbbell exercise, particularly on days 2 and 3 when soreness was greatest. It was concluded that high-intensity concentric/eccentric dumbbell exercise was able to temporarily alleviate DOMS and that this reduction in soreness served to counter the effect of peripheral muscle fatigue during dynamic activities. Practical applications of this study are that after eccentric damage, alleviation of muscle soreness through an optimal warm-up may be helpful to temporarily recover dynamic muscle performance. Free-weight loading is one suggested technique to temporarily manage DOMS.

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So, I would like to hear some opinions on training with soreness (working out a sore muscle), heavy or light soreness, and if possible get some articles or papers about that topic :highfive:

http://books.google.com/books?id=ueMh1x7kFjsC&pg=PA59#v=onepage&q&f=false



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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: December 07, 2010, 10:38:34 am »
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/photos?gameId=301206015&photoId=1001105#photo_1001105

Can't embed cause I found it on ESPN and they're tricky. But that photo is amazing.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: December 07, 2010, 09:35:32 am »

man... squatting with rambo knife... is the secret to vert success... LOL.

it makes you feel stronger for sure, no joke.. hah.. its like some tribal shit.



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at first i thought it was your celphone or something!... haha!

but thats just bad ass man... do that in a public gym man! no will go near the squat rack to do their curls!

nah, in usa i'd get a felony in a public gym. :)

pc

Not in Arizona.

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hey lbss, wats with the foot xray? you fractured your 5th metatarsal tuberosity?

Nope, arthritis in the metacarpophalangeal joint of the great toe. AKA hallux rigidus. Plus a bone spur up top there, which you can see. Used to just be the left foot, now it's both.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Interesting Thoughts
« on: December 07, 2010, 09:23:03 am »
EVERYTHING IS AN ABSOLUTE! CONTEXT DOESN'T MATTER, WHAT I DECREE IS LAW AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A FAT PUSSY OR A SKINNY PUSSY OR BOTH! MY LIFTERS ARE STRONG SO YOU SHOULD TRAIN LIKE THEM! I UNDERSTAND EVOLUTIONARY THEORY AND THE HISTORY OF SPORT BETTER THAN ANYONE WITH THAT THERE BOOK LEARNING! BOOK LEARNING IS FOR PUSSIES! ATHLETES OFTEN RUN 30 MPH AND GET CONCUSSIONS! THE BEST WAY TO TEACH THE FORTY IS TO HAVE YOUR ATHLETE FACEPLANT REPEATEDLY! JUICE IS EVIL! I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE BECAUSE MY LIFTERS ARE STRONG SO YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO ME!

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Do-Wins. Grey. I'll get a vid up soon cause I got my new DROID! Sweet.

Tonight, soreness in pecs and lats. Kept it nice and easy, feel pretty good now. If experience is any guide, will be more sore tomorrow. Oh well.

warm up
light foam roll, 5-6 mins
light stretching

work
jump rope x100,100,100,50,50
row x15 mins, easy pace
jump rope x50,50,50,50

cool down
stretch

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Basketball / Re: Nate Robinson jump ball vs. Jamison
« on: December 06, 2010, 05:56:11 pm »
HA!

UNC sucks.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: for 45" running vert
« on: December 06, 2010, 03:49:12 pm »
powerlifting ignorance question: Why didn't you go for a lighter final attempt on DL? Like 740 or something?

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60 min of foam roll and stretch= :o    nice pr man! considering it was on your first jump, you probably have more in you too! 

Thanks zgin. Yeah, foam rolling tends to take a while for me cause I got trigger points and tightness all over the place. When I have time I like to spend a while on it. Stretching, too. It's not always a full hour but I always feel much better after a good soft tissue session.

NOTE TO SELF: I need to expand the STW-style stretching a bit. I already do the core stretches plus calves and pecs and am getting somewhat prolific at those. Will add hamstrings and low back next, I think.

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:headbang:  :strong:  :headbang:  :strong:  :headbang:  :strong:  :headbang:  :strong:  :headbang:  :strong:

Thanks for the props, guys!

Tomorrow begins adarq plan numba 1, with my new shoes that just came. Sweet.

EDIT: This is a bit silly, but the shoes have me absolutely champing at the bit to go work out. I can't wait to see what squats are like with real shoes on instead of elevating my heels on little plates.

COB tomorrow cannot come soon enough. Might even try to dip out of work a little bit early (boss is in Egypt).

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: THE DREAM JOURNAL
« on: December 06, 2010, 11:17:11 am »
lol i stil lrememebr. i had a draem i got punished for not doing my school work and had to cut my penis off. I did it ,didnt hurt, jsut the whe ni cut it off, its like there was the skin there only. It was disgusting. It like became smaller and smaller , finalyl i flushed it down the toielt bowl. Seconds laqter, my penis grew back an inch.lol

And i cut it with a scissors

Uh...  ???

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neutral focus
SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:
power focus
SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:
speed/reactivity focus
SP:SR:SR:SR:STIM:TEST


PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR

warm up
shoot hoops -- nice
sprinter's warm ups
submax 1-step jump x2 -- got 30 easily on the first one and knew this was going to be a good day

work
sprint x4x15y
full run up x3x5 -- first jump was a PR, definitely 32 and maybe a bit more, everything was over 30.5 and a bunch were 31.5, might have gotten another 32 or two, as well
MR half tuck 3x10 -- legs/CNS dead
SS x3 (couple reps shy of TF/AF)
--dips x10
--pullups x8,7,7

cool down
foam roll x30 mins
stretch x30 mins

Helped an older guy who was trying to learn how to roll. Like helping people with stuff.

PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR

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