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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 27, 2025, 06:03:14 pm »
- run 52:09, 9.50 km
a little shorter than i meant to go, oops
a little shorter than i meant to go, oops
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 26, 2025, 03:37:08 pm »
regarding warmups, after watching the video, i don't think i really need to change anything, except for races. a few joint circles and leg swings are enough for easy runs and for workouts i run 1.5-2+ km easy before getting into the quality work, which i seem to be able to get right into. by all accounts, HR/RPE are what counts for easy running, not pace.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 26, 2025, 03:34:24 pm »
got it, makes sense.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 26, 2025, 07:52:05 am »
what do you think changed to make you unable to do the morning 495s? or if not unable, then at least made you think it's not wise to keep doing them?
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« on: March 26, 2025, 07:48:21 am »
funny, we ended up doing very similar workouts today, just with the sets and duration flipped.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 26, 2025, 07:45:39 am »
lol, it looks like he got someone to help him with lighting and, like, not wearing a t-shirt with the collar completely worn out. well, good for him. uncanny timing for the subject matter, will watch today.
- track threshold
-- warm up
-- 6 x 5 min @ threshold (4:08, 4:09, 4:07, 4:06, 4:05, 4:05), 1 min walking rest
-- cool down
threshold for me, per the jack daniels VDOT calculator, is 4:12. so by that measure, these were a little too fast, especially the later sets. OTOH, heart rate was upper 150s to lower 160s on all but the final set, and breathing was never labored. had a hard time keeping consistent pace in the first few sets. felt like a real workout, i was tired at the end. upper legs a little sore and, oddly, my left hamstring and right quad are a little more sore than their counterparts.
- track threshold
-- warm up
-- 6 x 5 min @ threshold (4:08, 4:09, 4:07, 4:06, 4:05, 4:05), 1 min walking rest
-- cool down
threshold for me, per the jack daniels VDOT calculator, is 4:12. so by that measure, these were a little too fast, especially the later sets. OTOH, heart rate was upper 150s to lower 160s on all but the final set, and breathing was never labored. had a hard time keeping consistent pace in the first few sets. felt like a real workout, i was tired at the end. upper legs a little sore and, oddly, my left hamstring and right quad are a little more sore than their counterparts.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 25, 2025, 08:02:49 am »
- run 1:01:08, 10.55 km
yep, definitely just slower in the morning. all systems not yet go. my fastest km on this run was 5:27, barely below my average pace for the long run on sunday, which i started in the late morning. i do a little bit of joint circles and leg swings before starting, perhaps i should try actually warming up for a few minutes and see if that makes a difference.
yep, definitely just slower in the morning. all systems not yet go. my fastest km on this run was 5:27, barely below my average pace for the long run on sunday, which i started in the late morning. i do a little bit of joint circles and leg swings before starting, perhaps i should try actually warming up for a few minutes and see if that makes a difference.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 23, 2025, 05:46:01 pm »
thanks! hopefully first of multiple this year, barring injury.
- run 1:46:19, 19.05 km
nice run. deliberately a little shorter than last week, since i ran hard yesterday. this route is hilly, for DC: about 215m of ascent and obviously same amount of descent. the patapsco valley 50k is quite a bit hillier, with 564m of ascent for each loop, or almost twice as much per km. definitely need to get some practice on trails like that over the coming months. my "A" race for the year, the JFK 50 mile, is only hilly for the first 15 miles, after that it's very flat.
my current thinking is that after the half on april 26, i'll dial back running volume and do a 5-6-week strength block, focusing on squats, until early june, when i'll start a 24-week build to the JFK 50. planning to follow the basic 50-miler plan from relentless forward commotion. it looks manageable: five days a week of running, including one day of hills or speed (i may just stick with my wednesday morning track work for all of those because i like that group and the regularity of it keeps me honest) and progressively stacking longer runs on the weekends.
- run 1:46:19, 19.05 km
nice run. deliberately a little shorter than last week, since i ran hard yesterday. this route is hilly, for DC: about 215m of ascent and obviously same amount of descent. the patapsco valley 50k is quite a bit hillier, with 564m of ascent for each loop, or almost twice as much per km. definitely need to get some practice on trails like that over the coming months. my "A" race for the year, the JFK 50 mile, is only hilly for the first 15 miles, after that it's very flat.
my current thinking is that after the half on april 26, i'll dial back running volume and do a 5-6-week strength block, focusing on squats, until early june, when i'll start a 24-week build to the JFK 50. planning to follow the basic 50-miler plan from relentless forward commotion. it looks manageable: five days a week of running, including one day of hills or speed (i may just stick with my wednesday morning track work for all of those because i like that group and the regularity of it keeps me honest) and progressively stacking longer runs on the weekends.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 22, 2025, 10:23:04 am »
- parkrun
-- warm up
-- race 5k in 19:41 (watch), 19:37 (official)
-- cool down
ran hard - last 800m breaths were one per step - but didn't absolutely kill myself, so i'm pleased with this. pretty sure the watch time ties my all-time PR and official time is certainly an all-time PR. the course is advertised as being flat but it's really slightly downhill on the out and slightly uphill on the back, and there was also a ~10 mph headwind on the way back. so keeping even pace for every km was a win. also, my last run was less than 24 hours ago and i did a hard interval workout on wednesday, so it's not like i was tapering.
per jack daniels' formula, threshold pace is 4:12, interval pace 3:52, rep pace is 3:37. good to have in mind. of course, modern thinking is that sticking to a given pace isn't the best because it doesn't take into account variable conditions, whether internal or external. but i'm so comparatively slow and so very much just muddling along that i think they're probably good enough benchmarks. confirms the shape i thought i was in, as well, which is nice.
later
- climb x ~1 hour
- paused push up x 10,10,10
wife was going to the gym anyway so i tagged along. first time climbing in almost two weeks, it showed a little. felt the muscles in my right middle and ring fingers start to get irritated, called it quits.
-- warm up
-- race 5k in 19:41 (watch), 19:37 (official)
-- cool down
ran hard - last 800m breaths were one per step - but didn't absolutely kill myself, so i'm pleased with this. pretty sure the watch time ties my all-time PR and official time is certainly an all-time PR. the course is advertised as being flat but it's really slightly downhill on the out and slightly uphill on the back, and there was also a ~10 mph headwind on the way back. so keeping even pace for every km was a win. also, my last run was less than 24 hours ago and i did a hard interval workout on wednesday, so it's not like i was tapering.
per jack daniels' formula, threshold pace is 4:12, interval pace 3:52, rep pace is 3:37. good to have in mind. of course, modern thinking is that sticking to a given pace isn't the best because it doesn't take into account variable conditions, whether internal or external. but i'm so comparatively slow and so very much just muddling along that i think they're probably good enough benchmarks. confirms the shape i thought i was in, as well, which is nice.
later
- climb x ~1 hour
- paused push up x 10,10,10
wife was going to the gym anyway so i tagged along. first time climbing in almost two weeks, it showed a little. felt the muscles in my right middle and ring fingers start to get irritated, called it quits.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 21, 2025, 04:32:30 pm »
- run 46:11, 9.07 km, strides x 3 in final ~1.5 km
flawless spring afternoon, mid-50s, sunny, breezy. this is about 5:05 pace, or 40-45s/km faster than i've typically been doing easy runs, but it was relaxed and HR averaged 134. perhaps running in the morning is just harder? i think the very easy approach to easy runs makes sense overall but maybe i'm overdoing it? idk.
flawless spring afternoon, mid-50s, sunny, breezy. this is about 5:05 pace, or 40-45s/km faster than i've typically been doing easy runs, but it was relaxed and HR averaged 134. perhaps running in the morning is just harder? i think the very easy approach to easy runs makes sense overall but maybe i'm overdoing it? idk.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Loopie's Log
« on: March 20, 2025, 09:31:18 am »
have you seen a PT about the knee? what kind of pain is it? there's probably something you can do for it, even if it's just unilateral work on the healthy leg (there's a lot of evidence for carryover of unilateral work when you're injured).
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 19, 2025, 07:59:17 am »
- track intervals
-- warm up
-- 2 x [1200,800,600,400,200] @ 5k pace, ~90s rest
-- cool down
nice workout, kept it between 3:51-3:54/km pace except the very first 1200 (3:58) and the final 200, which i did in 35s (2:55) just for fun. that is, hilariously, about the same as super-elite marathon pace.
-- warm up
-- 2 x [1200,800,600,400,200] @ 5k pace, ~90s rest
-- cool down
nice workout, kept it between 3:51-3:54/km pace except the very first 1200 (3:58) and the final 200, which i did in 35s (2:55) just for fun. that is, hilariously, about the same as super-elite marathon pace.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« on: March 18, 2025, 11:52:29 am »you should do the race.
This was enough peer pressure to get me to sign up for the June 5k and also an October half.)
lol
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: March 18, 2025, 07:52:02 am »
- run 55:41, 10.00 km
a little chilly, ~35/2 degrees, and breezy. too warm for fleece but i wore it anyway and got sweaty, lol. whoops.
a little chilly, ~35/2 degrees, and breezy. too warm for fleece but i wore it anyway and got sweaty, lol. whoops.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« on: March 17, 2025, 08:37:42 am »
you should do the race.