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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4725 on: March 08, 2019, 06:45:52 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

Come on mate. You should know better than to mention race like this.

yea you're right. i wanted to write something else but i thought it would be too doxy and made it more vague. maybe should have just stuck with human male.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4726 on: March 08, 2019, 06:47:43 am »
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Can someone explain why i could do 147.5kg for 7 reps a couple of weeks ago but now im struggling to progress 8s from 140kg when i managed 12x137.5kg and a 170kg single since i did that 7x147.5kg. To make matters worse ive specialised in a bad way on stufpid f&*Kn squats and been completely sedentary and eating like a godamn fatty to boot.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4727 on: March 08, 2019, 08:01:38 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

you got "demasculated" :trollface:

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4728 on: March 08, 2019, 08:06:40 am »
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Can someone explain why i could do 147.5kg for 7 reps a couple of weeks ago but now im struggling to progress 8s from 140kg when i managed 12x137.5kg and a 170kg single since i did that 7x147.5kg. To make matters worse ive specialised in a bad way on stufpid f&*Kn squats and been completely sedentary and eating like a godamn fatty to boot.

the ebbs and flows of human performance.

it's possible that you're still not recovered from the 170kg PR.

additionally, your knees seem to be jacked up & your fitness seems awful. i'd personally dial back squats considerably until your knees feel good. your knees shouldn't be hurting/achy from daily squatting (or squatting in general) like you mentioned a few days ago - that's probably a sign that something has gone wrong.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4729 on: March 08, 2019, 08:12:01 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4730 on: March 08, 2019, 10:37:22 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great



i wish. that would be less humiliating. first game he beat me fair and square, i think he was up 8 to 2. i got up to maybe 6 but he won that one. no joke, he has 2 moves, he moves slow af and i know every time what he's going to do and yet i couldn't stop him. beware the man who has practiced 2 moves 1000 times compared to the guy who has practiced 1000 moves twice. or whatver the saying is.  2nd was i tried a bit harder (but not too much cos it would be unfair) .. i could beat him straight driving to the hoop but that's nothing to be proud of .. im half his age and i hate when i play against young guys who burn you from the perimeter if you get too close .. or they hit 3 after 3 on you cause why not (the game gone changed). he won 12-10 .. i had several game points but i couldnt hit my jumpers. He can't shoot by the way. Im not sure but this has really put me in a spiral .. lol. the game may have passed me by in a big way. i think i was the athletic guy who could score easily but is no longer athletic and has no skills (aka old man game) to make up for it

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4731 on: March 08, 2019, 10:40:34 am »
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Can someone explain why i could do 147.5kg for 7 reps a couple of weeks ago but now im struggling to progress 8s from 140kg when i managed 12x137.5kg and a 170kg single since i did that 7x147.5kg. To make matters worse ive specialised in a bad way on stufpid f&*Kn squats and been completely sedentary and eating like a godamn fatty to boot.

the ebbs and flows of human performance.

it's possible that you're still not recovered from the 170kg PR.

additionally, your knees seem to be jacked up & your fitness seems awful. i'd personally dial back squats considerably until your knees feel good. your knees shouldn't be hurting/achy from daily squatting (or squatting in general) like you mentioned a few days ago - that's probably a sign that something has gone wrong.

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re knees, i think it was the daily heavy squatting (for me that was 157.5kg-170kg) daily last week. since i laid off heavy singles knees feel okay. I rested completely today, only did 2 sets with the empty bar and came home. Going to go hard tmr .. i may not get to 8x150kg after all .. ive run out of time and squats are taking too long to recover and progress now, might just accept where im at now and change focus????????

another thing i forgot to mention .. lately my knee sleeves feel very tight around my legs. i wont speculate on why that is .. but it's definitely noticeable now. funny when i started daily squatting i used to chalk my knees and the insides of the knee sleeves so they wouldn't slide around lol. they were just that loose, esp after using them daily and i didnt know how to care for neoprene so i machine washed and sun dried them a few times before realising that ruins the material.  now i dont need to use any chalk and i cud probably use more mobility if anything but even when my legs get sweaty they stay stuck in place.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4732 on: March 09, 2019, 05:49:35 am »
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Bball update!

I played 1v1 with a 52 year old HUMAN, much more skilled the 62 year old who defeated me a few days ago (ie the old man game of the meme above). I'm sure if he didnt have such an impressive tan he'd still be really good. 52 year old though. I was able to win but he was much better at basketball. he was sinking 1 handed 3 pointers and posting me up without any trouble. but my jumper was on and he even complimented how nice my form was. i did drive on him a few times just to practice and i cud do that with ease .. now i wanna try against younger guys lol. I posted him up once and i must have stronger than i think cos i cud man handle him. Also the funny thing is he was wearing a Manu Ginobili singlet so im sure he has a soft spot for us lefties .. we do look pretty i know .. come to think of it he didn't contest a single of my jumpers .. no wonder i hit them all. anywayyyyyyy

altho i will add that apparently he had been playing since 11am .. and i got there around 4pm .. so all things considered .. i was fresh and he was spent. i still suck .. but i suck a little less than i did a few days ago.

tldr: from losing to a 62 yaer old .. i beat a 52 year old 3 days later. this is progress ..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4733 on: March 09, 2019, 09:14:45 pm »
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Starting peaking tmr (monday).

Something like:
- daily cardio (basketball or running)
- regular jumping
- maintain or improve lifts
- gradually reduce carbs and keep everything else the same for now

bw: 88.9kg today .. not sure what my 'target' bw is but it's at least under 87.5kg though realistically it won't be very close to 85kg i needed to be ..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4734 on: March 09, 2019, 10:14:39 pm »
+2
Bball update!

I played 1v1 with a 52 year old HUMAN, much more skilled the 62 year old who defeated me a few days ago (ie the old man game of the meme above). I'm sure if he didnt have such an impressive tan he'd still be really good. 52 year old though. I was able to win but he was much better at basketball. he was sinking 1 handed 3 pointers and posting me up without any trouble. but my jumper was on and he even complimented how nice my form was. i did drive on him a few times just to practice and i cud do that with ease .. now i wanna try against younger guys lol. I posted him up once and i must have stronger than i think cos i cud man handle him. Also the funny thing is he was wearing a Manu Ginobili singlet so im sure he has a soft spot for us lefties .. we do look pretty i know .. come to think of it he didn't contest a single of my jumpers .. no wonder i hit them all. anywayyyyyyy

altho i will add that apparently he had been playing since 11am .. and i got there around 4pm .. so all things considered .. i was fresh and he was spent. i still suck .. but i suck a little less than i did a few days ago.

tldr: from losing to a 62 yaer old .. i beat a 52 year old 3 days later. this is progress ..

reading "I played 1v1 with a 52 year old HUMAN" makes me chuckle. it looks so weird.

I guess you can technically drop "HUMAN" since it's implied. If you play a POLAR BEAR, then it makes sense to include it. lmfao.

"I played 1v1 with a 52 year old"

"I played 1v1 with a 52 year young"

"I played 1v1 with a person"

"I played 1v1"

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4735 on: March 10, 2019, 11:25:22 am »
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Maybe we should leave species out of this  :pokerface:

ive got THE ab doms ... did nothing to cause it.. could it have been the jump session??


Also i forgot to mention, as per the discussion to go for no hope dunk attempts in Coges log .. i did actually try to dunk in that last 1v1 i mentioned .. the ball slipped out of my hand!! It makes sense that a one hand dunk would be more likely to be available but it's a harder dunk to relaibly complete with my weak sauce grip.  And my opponent was distracted by some cute blonde girl who was negotating the coffee she'd won by winning a bet (her hitting a 3) .. so it doesn't really count .. but i still went for it. Fumbled it like a twat. Ive always fumbled every single dunk attempt in game so this is nothing new .. but i went for it .. so as long as i keep trying i might figure out the rest and land an in game dunk
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4736 on: March 11, 2019, 01:23:20 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

Come on mate. You should know better than to mention race like this.

yea you're right. i wanted to write something else but i thought it would be too doxy and made it more vague. maybe should have just stuck with human male.

I played 1v1 with a 52 year old HUMAN, much more skilled the 62 year old who defeated me a few days ago (ie the old man game of the meme above). I'm sure if he didnt have such an impressive tan he'd still be really good. 52 year old though.

Maybe we should leave species out of this  :pokerface:

OK OK, I get it's not cool to be pious about casual/inconsequential racism, and it's funnier to make jokes about SJW sensitivities and that...I am just interested that you (who has mentioned they've experienced racism IRL in Australia) would trivialise what I said before. I was surprised you were disappointed to lose against someone whom you described as old, fat and white, as if it were the trifecta of basketball ineptitude - but maybe I shouldn't be surprised? I am honestly interested in your views on it given your racism experience (something I haven't experienced) and being what I consider a well-informed, well-educated person.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4737 on: March 11, 2019, 06:58:16 am »
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I think you were right to call me out. Given the background information available to someone neutral reading, the call out was justified, no argument there whatsoever. The state of knowledge at hand can lead to two different viewpoints where both can't be true but somehow the viewpoints are logically valid given different background information. It's like when you say something unexpected to someone and they say 'that is random' to make that statement, but if they knew the full state of your mind at that point, it would no longer be random because they'd see the chain of thought that led to that statement being uttered.

The question of racism here is of the same quality of background knowledge and i hate to say it, 'intent'  (which i think is regrettably known to be abused for excusing racism) matters. If the trio of 'old' 'white' 'fat' are qualities being used to diminish the person in question then it would be racism, i agree. However I would not say i meant the 'white' in a pejorative sense here, if whatever race that person was i would have written it the same way and not have it reflect on that person's basketball ability. I have used it in that sense before but it was a positive way (the 14 yo athletic white phenom i described a few weeks ago in a youth league). That's still racism but positive or whatever.

In general, I don't have a problem personally talking about race casually, yeah we're all equal in theory but in practice im probably not afforded that kind of luxury of a viewpoint, which i think is something another Australian might take for granted (and that would be a good thing). I don't want to live with some kind of delusion that race doesn't matter or exist because that would lead to unrealistic situations otherwise. Or rude awakenings. It's nice to believe you're just another person most of the time, maybe even someone 'normal' but then you'll run into a small amount of racism and find it deeply troubling unless you've cultivated a resistance to racism being able to hurt you. I have to keep race in the foreground because otherwise racism is just too crushing when it happens, kind of like maintaining a level of immunity to it is required to function.

If you knew the person i was talking about, the 62 year old, he's a feature of the local pickup scene for years. The man is almost an institution, a playground legend. He's almost loved here. I honestly admire the man and i would even say i find his love for the game infectious. He hasn't got athleticism or even skill but he loves to play basketball and everyone just humours him but not having played with him in a year or two, i was surprised how much better he has got .. or perhaps how bad i have gotten at the same time, and how troubling i found it to be beaten by him .. not beacuse he's white .. but because he was really really bad .. like just terrible and now he was absolutely demolishing me. And having said that, it'snot like he's suddenly now a good player .. he's still bad .. but he beat me bad. But i couldn't have even tried to beat him in a competive sense .. i have a bit too much respect for him as a opponent to humiliate him? i dont know, it wasn't a competitive situation, i played with restraint but i'd expect to beat him easily even without trying. I'd never say he's bad because he's white .. it's not a factor (in this case). If his race was relevant that would be different. I guess if i was to flesh this out fully .. a 62 year old brown man or black man .. that would not make it any different in my eye, the age and fatness would be the main thing here.

Also i'm not good at dealing with racism .. but ive been trying to dispower it .. maybe it's a complex thing that needs way too much nuance to be careless like in this case.




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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4738 on: March 11, 2019, 10:54:14 am »
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Bodyweight(AM): 89.1kg (11 March)
Diet compliance: 2/2 days
Daily Squat: 112/112 days
Daily Cardio: 0/0


Morning:
    

Noon:
   BS 7x120, 2x157.5(PR)
   OHP 10x20 

Evening:
 Hill Run - 1.5km, 10 min
   Walk 40 min.   


Notes:
  • Ok restarted daily cardio.My HR was 175 at 1.5km .. i just decided to stop there .. i could have kept going of course but i didn't want to be up all night because my CNS was fried from going too hard on day 0 .. shows how quickly you lose fitness huh .. 175 for a 6:30/km pace .. yikes. 
  • The 157.5kg double was a mistake. I should have taken a recovery day but ive got the 24hr holter on and i wasn't sure if i could fit in a workout before i have to return it tmr. I couldn't decide what workset to do after the 120kg warmup .. which mde my legs feel sore all of a duden, so i prob wouldnt be able to do a proper workout tmr, anyway, so i thoght i might as well make this the workout
  • Couldn't decide between a)leaving, b)repping 150kg for a reps PR, or c)Progressing to a 157.5kg double
  • Then some guy decides to just setup for rack pulls (on the outside) on the same rack i am using on the inside. i told him i only had 2 sets (he never asked me first)  left and he said ok and just left the bar there? take a hint im not asking im  hinting you to get out of my personal space lol. It's not ok to just jump into someone's rack without even saying hi. Then i had to ask him to remove it because it was unsafe to have a bar behind me if i fail a set. After that i felt amped up and went with 157.5kg even tho i prob shud have just left the gym at that point. If he had just asked me first i'd have happily given him the rack and just left because the universe decided for me, but people are so inconsiderate. OR maybe i'm the inconsiderate one for doing daily squats/ohp and people are sick of me? it messed with my head .. shitty day of training.
  • It was the ugliest 2 reps ive done in a long time .. so bad .. i dont even count it as a PR tbh
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4739 on: March 11, 2019, 10:19:34 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 89.4kg (12 March)
Diet compliance: 3/3 days
Daily Squat: 113/113 days
Daily Cardio: 1/1
Activity: 17500


Morning:
TM Run, 2.5km, ~16:55 min    

Noon:
   BS 8x50, 8x70
   OHP 10x50, 10x40

Evening:
 Hoops - shooting around and 2 1v1 pickup games   


Notes:
  • Played 1v1 against a 18 yo .. we split 2 games. It's so hard defending short guys .... it's almost impossible lol. Anyone 5'10" or so you can keep D up hip to hip .. but shorter guys than that .. they just vanish into the ether and teleport near the rim
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