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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Dancing
« on: May 17, 2011, 10:28:45 am »



You're really overthinking things here. People that demonstrate increased frontal lobe functioning think about the consequences of their actions and are apt to plan shit out. They're generally going to be observed to be more intelligent than their hindbrain dominant coutnerparts because they're more than likely have taken their education serious done their homeword, studied for tests, etc. That's different than IQ but apparently everyone here except for you  knew what I meant. If you can't see that the prototypical nerd is not inherently great at stuff like dancing you really need to get out more. Considering you're the same guy who asked what a black person is I shouldn't be surprised.  


Of course the prototypical nerd is bad at dancing. That's part of being a prototypical nerd -- social awkwardness. But not all people who are good in school or good at taking tests are prototypical nerds. In fact, most probably aren't. Some of the best dancers that I've known in my life have also been brilliant students, good at standardized tests, etc. These are people who can plan, delay gratification, dedicate themselves to something and focus on getting better at it over time. Some have dedicated themselves to dancing so they're really good dancers. Surprise!

Most of those good dancers are girls because girls are less likely to get called fags for dancing when they're younger, so they get a head start on PRACTICING dance. Dudes from cultures where male dancing is appreciated may be school-smart as shit and also good dancers because -- surprise! -- they started dancing earlier, got positive encouragement to dance and PRACTICED a lot. Even if totally informally, they got encouraged to move to music as little kids so they learned how to do it without looking like spazzes. See: lots of Brazilians.

"Black" a social construct that means something like, "of African descent," and so is useless as a basis for comparing "inherent" traits. If you looked at a black guy from Detroit and a Kenyan walking down the street, you'd call them both black (so would I, we're both American so that's what we see). But there is probably less cultural and genetic similarity between the two of them than between you and me or me and Vladimir Putin. That's the point I was trying to make but which was apparently lost. And that's why the psoas study you cited is so silly -- "black" has no genetic meaning. It's interesting that the black group had bigger PMA's than the white group, but not because they're black.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: May 17, 2011, 09:08:45 am »
I'm comin for you, vag. 1.5" to go.  :strong:

Taken out of context this quote is hilarious! :P

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 :highfive:

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BW = 169
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = none
FATIGUE = none

session 1: volume

- warmup

- sprint warmup

- sprints : 10-20's
2 @ 80%, 4 @ 90-95%

- dj (18-24") : 4 x 5
one really good rep, right after someone talked to me (lol, not kidding), the rest unexplosive as hell

- squat : 3 x 5
280,280,280 == felt kind of shitty, but all good reps

- BSS : 3 x 5 each
150,150,150 == was feeling kind of weak so dropped back

- light calf raise: 4 x 5
135,135,135,135 == arthritis is a bitch

- core
ab wheel roll out 3 x 15

- stretch

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: May 16, 2011, 04:30:17 pm »
I'm comin for you, vag. 1.5" to go.  :strong:

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yesterday:

BW = ???
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = none
FATIGUE = low

wanted to do tempo run but by the time i left my house it was starting to rain and looked bad, so bailed on that plan. instead messed around at gym for 30-35 minutes. shot around, jumped rope, rode exercise bike, a few chin ups and dips. just to get moving, get HR up and break a sweat. then stretched.

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yesterday:

BW = ???
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = none
FATIGUE = none

session 2 : power

- warmup

- sprint warmup

- sprints : 10-20 yards - to fire up

- jumps : 2 step & vert

Court in use and crunched for time, so skipped right to these

- MR DL BOUND (vertical emphasis): 4 x 10-20 MAX EFFORT, ridiculously powerful armswing
10,10,10,10 == in weight room, was FLYING on the second set especially but all sets were good

- Pogos: 4 x 5 MAX EFFORT
15,15,10,10 == added some arm swing, not ME but harder than I'd been doing them

- REA squat : 4 x 3 (40%)
135,135,135,135

- MSEM squat: 2 x 4 (~90%)
290,290 == strong

- BSS : 3 x 3


- core


- stretch

ran out of time, still a good workout.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: MY First Dunk??? check out the video
« on: May 14, 2011, 03:39:57 pm »
link is to your youtube home page or something. when i clicked on it it went to my videos.

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Sports Discussion / Re: Ultimate frisbee
« on: May 13, 2011, 10:15:40 am »
sweet trick shots by one of the best recent college players: http://devour.com/video/frisbee-trick-shots/

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Dancing
« on: May 12, 2011, 03:41:15 pm »
That's a good point... makes them "think less". Maybe more right side of the brain into it.

The more you think about movement, the worse it usually gets.

That's what I'm getting at. Dropping thought and just going with the flow doesn't always come natural to people who are used to actively engaging their concious brain in everything.  Alcohol can help temper down an overactive frontal cortex which tends to make movement singular and mechanical. The hindbrain (instinctual brain) is where you want to be for bodily movement . A few years back LBS's hero Lyle Mcdonald would even drink Vodka before he skated with the goal of taming his overactive frontal brain so he could become less mechanical on the ice. 

that's funny about lyle, didn't know that. only came to nutswinging on the tail end of his speed skating days so i missed most of what he wrote about his own training. closest thing i could find in a quick look around his forum was a joking suggestion to add "russian"-style events to speed skating meets, where you'd take a shot of vodka between every lap. would love to see where he actually talked about drinking while training, that would be funny.

you're still wrong, though. overactive frontal cortex* does not equal "intelligence"**. and anyway, you didn't contradict what i said. lowered inhibition and reduced overthinking are close to the same thing in my experience, especially when it comes to dancing. what does any of this have to do with "intelligence"?

back to your original question, though, and even taking "intelligence" at face value, where on earth did you get the idea that more-intelligent people tend to be worse dancers than less-intelligent people? that doesn't make sense and is not at all true in my experience.

petey0109, since when are "people that go with the flow" less "intelligent" than "overthinkers" or "overthinkers" necessarily more "intelligent" than everyone else?

also, since when did the bar for "good dancer" get set at "not being really jerky"? i can move in time to music, even sober. my movements get looser when i'm drunk, i think, but that doesn't make me a good dancer. in fact, trying to do any kind of coordinated dance gets HARDER when i'm drunk. i do care less that i'm not good at it, though. so there's that.

*relative to what? what's a normal level of cortical activity? what's subnormal and supernormal? why do those states exist? do they exist to a greater degree or more frequently in some people than others? why? how many people fall into each category? what effect do those differences have on movement? honest questions for which i'd be very curious to see answers.

**"intelligence" doesn't exist as a singular trait that you can isolate and measure, so is completely meaningless for any kind of comparative purpose. what do you mean by it?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Dancing
« on: May 12, 2011, 10:37:51 am »
what is an oscillatory iso.

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Woot. Nice PR's.

:highfive:  :headbang:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :ibjumping:


Thanks! Nice to make some progress after a few shitty workouts in a row. The key: sleep. It's a "duh" point but even when I don't feel tired, I'm usually underslept. There is a wide gulf between low fatigue and no fatigue.

Also, as adarq, pointed out in the PR thread, someone talking to me about my jumping and giving me some cue or other usually means I PR or close to it on the next jump. No idea why that would be. But I AM getting better at concentrating and jumping with other people around, as long as they're not also using the basket.

On the down side, I found out I'm going back to Afghanistan and Pakistan for a few weeks starting around mid-June. Should be cool trips but I'm not happy about three more weeks without normal gym facilities. Oh well, will try to make the best of it. In Pakistan I'll at least have access to the nice gym. Not sure about Afghanistan. Might try to finagle some nights at the nice hotel in Kabul, which has an okay gym. At the very least the ceilings are high enough there to make ME jumps/depth jumps a possibility. The fancy hotels are lonely as shit, though. Much prefer guest houses.

Just means I have to squeeze as much as possible out of the next month.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: May 12, 2011, 09:47:28 am »
Wasn't that bad^^^

it's an example of a "functional" exercise that makes no physical sense. gravity points down.

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Program Review / Re: frank yang "40 inch vertical program"
« on: May 12, 2011, 09:44:10 am »
Nobody has something to say about it?  :ninja:

why don't YOU say something about it?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Dancing
« on: May 11, 2011, 09:20:05 pm »
good athletes are good athletes because they practice. good dancers are good dancers because they practice. what the fuck does any of this have to do with intelligence.

if you grew up around with black people you notice that the smarter the person is, in most cases the worse they are as a dancer even if they practice.

this is one of the dumbest fucking things i've ever read in my life.

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it is true that practice has something to do with it, but how can you explain little kids who are naturally just drastically quicker but not neceessarily faster than their friends.

maybe they're naturally more talented, or maybe they spend more time running around and changing direction, so they get better at it. i don't know. probably a mix of talent and practice. just like dancing.

neither has any correlation with "intelligence," whatever the fuck that means. jesus christ.

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