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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 23, 2011, 09:59:25 am »
Quote from: Harvey M. on December 22, 2011, 07:59:19 pm
I'm used to doing more than 3x5 everyday. I did 4x5 2 days ago during Smolov and that was only half the workout. If I fail Smolov miserably, go ahead and talk shit. Just at least give me a chance, fuck.

that's not how it works when you ask for advice. i'm not talking shit. but that's the problem, you asked for advice, it was offered to you, and you rejected it out of hand as if you hadn't listened to any of the arguments, because you assumed the responses were personal attacks.

like i said, best of luck with smolov, i hope it works out for you. but given where you are in your training life, i think it's fucking retarded for you to be doing anything but a simple linear program.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 22, 2011, 09:59:50 am »
Quote from: Harvey M. on December 21, 2011, 07:42:49 pm
By detrimental, I mean it's either going to injure me or not make me improve. If it's going to make me improve, what's the issue? There's no way it could be detrimental if I'm looking for some quick strength. And I honestly don't see 3x5 that challenging at all.


fuck it, you've made your mind up, do whatever the fuck you want. the advice you've been given in this thread is sound and you've completely ignored every bit of it, with the same idiotic argument over and over: "durrr, 3x5 is easy you guys, i'm up for a challenge durrrrrr."

you squat 265 pounds. 3x5 will be plenty hard and plenty challenging if you fucking work hard at it.

godspeed.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 21, 2011, 07:31:15 pm »
Quote from: Harvey M. on December 21, 2011, 07:12:19 pm
Well, the way I see it is that Smolov was designed to give big gains in a small time frame. Yeah, so was starting strength and whatnot, but I'm up for a real challenge. It's more of a mental test for me as it is a physical test. When I'm done? Maybe I'll do it again? Maybe I'll do something more jump-related.

If by me completing Smolov will be detramental to my training. Speak now. Otherwise, I don't see why you're not encouraging me.

that's exactly what lance and i just said. if you want it spelled out: it will be detrimental to your training.

up for a real challenge? do three sets of five squats three days a week, adding weight as often as you can while maintaining strong form.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Cutting down to where?
« on: December 21, 2011, 05:36:19 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on December 21, 2011, 01:03:38 pm
Just inputed 150 as my 1RM here: http://www.joeskopec.com/smolov.html

For that, I'm supposed to do Friday 7x5x120 and then THE NEXT DAY 10x3x128 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :ninja:

And then the next week 7x5x130 AND THEN THE NEXT DAY 10x3x138 ?!?!?!?!?!

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? After 7x5x130 they expect me to do be able to do 10x3x138 the next fucking day? WTF is wrong with these people?

Even with the 1RM set to 140 that's still a lot of "impossible" work there. And then they say "Take a 3 week break from squat work, test your NEW RM, enter it in the box below and continue with the program". 3 week break from squat work? WTF :ninja:

why are you even talking about smolov in a cutting thread?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The right and wrong way to squat
« on: December 21, 2011, 03:53:18 pm »
Quote from: Avishek on December 21, 2011, 11:44:35 am
THe real argument is - should you try to jump with the weight as if you're jumping in a squat. The toe-to-heel terminology is a bit confusing.

I don't have research whoever asked me for that. I'm merely stating and sharing my opinion. As I mentioned, it would be fun to see research on this, all I have is empirical evidence so far. Furthermore, I did not mean to state it all as fact. But hey if someone really would like to provide research to readily refute this, go ahead I'm all eyes and ears. Has not come forth as of yet

Steven - learn so spell ditto correctly. I'm sorry I offended you you take things like a little bitch does.

strong, strong use of the word "empirical."

perhaps learn to spell "do" correctly when correcting others' spelling.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 21, 2011, 09:38:00 am »
Quote from: Harvey M. on December 21, 2011, 05:39:24 am
Quote from: Fat And Furious on December 21, 2011, 04:35:16 am
If you're that keen on smolov why not jnr?

Go big or go home. :) Why tone it down?

BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING BEGINNER. jesus christ. "go big or go home" is brotastic gibberish with no basis in the real world. i know you put that smiley face in there to say, "jk guyz," but your insistence on doing something that's harder than you need suggests that you are not, in fact, jk.

you are a beginner. you can progress, for sure, on a simple program of linear progression. probably for months, assuming your diet and sleep are done right. when you max out those gains, you can start to think about changing things up.

but if you start with something very difficult and intense now, where will you go when you're done? simple, linear programming will basically never work for you as well as it can work right now. take advantage of it.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The right and wrong way to squat
« on: December 21, 2011, 09:31:07 am »
Quote from: Fat And Furious on December 21, 2011, 04:25:42 am
Just drop a plate on your toe and if you do it right and actually fracture something, you can use it as a way to keep the weight (or tension or life force or whatever you wanna call it) on your heel rather than toes. Worked for me. I fractured mine last friday and I was squatting heel-to-toe (or the other way around? the OPs classification is not very clear) this monday. Hope this helps the newbies reading this thread.

hahahahaha, only worthwhile post in this entire thread. +1,000

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: December 20, 2011, 01:51:59 pm »
Quote from: undoubtable on December 20, 2011, 11:44:38 am
You always seem to use very high rep half tucks, is there a reason for that?? It seems to be endurance work.

You're squats are very nice btw...

25/set is the most i've ever done. but yeah, they're for connective tissue conditioning, a la adarq. if you go back a year or two in his log or his youtube channel, you can find videos of him doing hundreds of MR half tucks. i do them way submax, focusing on minimal ground contact time rather than height. it's a way to get in some reactive work without taxing myself as much as with big exercises like RVJ, depth jumps, bounds, etc.

it's funny, i never thought about it before but i'm doing them that way on faith. adarq knows what he's talking about.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Cutting down to where?
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:11:09 am »
plus with leangains, you can eat lots of cheesecake.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The right and wrong way to squat
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:07:05 am »
Quote from: Avishek on December 20, 2011, 12:11:53 am
I do not state anything as fact at least I do not try to. I'm open to the idea that everything I think is wrong like a true philospher. But still, nobody has commented on descending on the toes, after I posted several videos of this type of squatting and steven insists that it does not exist and therefore my argument is flawed because I didn't take into consideration that this has been discussed before. Post some fucking links jesus christ.

My max squat is only 225 because I just started to train it in order to be normal. I did not want to train it the past 3 years. of my training.

I can post a video of myself squatting soon, but Kingfishes is spot on so check that one out on page 1. Again, a clear difference is in the way the knees track. Just watch how little his knees actually move horizontally compared to frank yang's squat. 

Also again steven, I said you had good form. I have nothing against your form actually, I can't see your feet perfectly though.
Kingfish - I recommend squatting heels bottom, toe at the top, not toe bottom heel top as you might have said I recommended and it's not unsafe at all with a moderate weight. This is just to teach people not to descend on the toes as they would prefer.


"3. The main problem with Avishek's actual argument is that it takes no recognition of thoughts previously spelled out by experienced coaches and experts. One can certainly name several of those figures, many of which will voice different opinions. Avishek however does not take notice of anyone who has thought through a lot of things and has provided conclusive lines of thought regarding optimal back squat technique for performance training. Instead he constructs, due to his limited experience and knowledge, some dichotomy that is really not there (toe-to-heal and heal-to-toe) and tries to underpin it with an incomplete "analysis" of "something". "


-THis is very true, but false at the same time. Taking into recognition all this past research is not a prerequisite for having a good argument, sound methods and logic are. My argument certainly does not take into recognition anything, I have no references, as I mentioned, I am using my common/kinesthetic sense and experience to analyze this and in reality i'm looking for feedback and an intelligent discussion which has not been made yet because nobody has the good will to just lay out some research and post some links. Instead people would rather be closed minded and brainless, except Lance who asked me to post my form. Steve, if you think you have all this wealth of fucking knowledge the correct thing to do is to just post it and it takes care of itself. The fact that you are commenting on my squat numbers and level of expertise shows you are lost as fuck and don't know how to rebut my argument off the top of your head. So basically, this is not biochemistry, or quantum physics, you don't need much of a brain to figure out this shit and I don't need to post references or have read every book on the subject to say something that makes sense.

LANCE: You think someone is going to increase their chances of injury from squatting heel-to-toe rather than toe-to-heel as they would probably do naturally? As the individuals in the videos I posted squat? What's worse for your knees? Answer is pretty obvious. THis argument is so fucking simple I do not understand why people don't get it.


And see? No one has even commented on my argument. Instead you pussy faggots post my old videos which do not represent my current training and ignore the main argument because you have no control over your amygdalas since you are all teenagers.


The one armed deadlifts are for grip strength undoubtable. It's more of a hold than a lift.

TLDR

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:06:28 am »
thanks my pine-tree worshiping friend.

last night. court was occupied by a make-up game. also i didn't sleep much on sunday night; i actually ended up taking an ambien around 1:15, which i never do. anyway:

ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING: JUMP EVERY WORKOUT. IF THERE'S NO SPACE, FIND SPACE.

FOAM ROLL/LACROSSE BALL/SMR AFTER WORKOUTS AND ON REST DAYS.

STANDING QUAD/HAM/CALF/ITB/PEC STRETCHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVERY HOUR OR SO.

KEEP SWEETS TO A MINIMUM. MOAR PROTEIN. MOAR VEGGIES.

BW = ???
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = left toe like a motherfucker, left hip tweaked during warm up but no trouble during work sets
FATIGUE = moderate

- warm up

- depth jump x 5,5,5
seemed like every third rep was great and 2/3 sucked. inconsistent coordination.

- MR half tuck x 25,25,25

- squat 5 x 295,295,295
easy, no elbow pain. after the second set one of the oly lifters looked at me, shook his head and said, "that is a perfect squat."  :highfive:

- lat pull down 10 x 70,80,80

- OHP 5 x 95,95,95
lazy, doing it just to do it

- stretch

left hip is creaky today. i feel like an old person.  :(

gonna go to the gym tonight, get warm and do some serious SMR and stretching and maybe a little upper body and core work.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: December 19, 2011, 02:49:52 pm »
Quote from: Flander on December 19, 2011, 01:58:08 pm
What were you doing in Afghanistan?

You are around a 2xBW squat then?

I work for an NGO and one of my projects is in northern Afghanistan, so I'm over there for 2-3 weeks a year. Might end up being more next year but we'll see.

Most recent actual 1RM was 345, or just over 2xbw.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The right and wrong way to squat
« on: December 19, 2011, 02:48:02 pm »
Quote from: LanceSTS on December 19, 2011, 01:46:49 pm
Quote from: LBSS on December 19, 2011, 11:36:51 am
why are you all wasting your time with this?


  Normally I let that shit go but I dont want new members that come to this forum to see a thread like this,  where things are stated as fact, rather than a beginners opinion, and follow blindly, end up getting hurt. If he had said, "In my opinion, you should squat on your ....." then that would be fine.

fair enough.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Completely Ignoring Upper Body?
« on: December 19, 2011, 01:21:35 pm »
Quote from: Avishek on December 18, 2011, 02:50:18 pm
Most people on this forum have a relgious belief that muscle mass hampers vertical jump.

really?

harvey: i don't think you should do smolov or smolov junior or anything but 3x5 or 5x5 or 3x8 or some other simple linear progression scheme. but if you really, really want to do it because it's the new texas method or WSBB or whatever (and i identify with that, for real), then yes, you can do upper body. you just can't do upper body as balls-out as you might otherwise be able to.

do something SIMPLE and STRAIGHTFORWARD like [press 3 x 5, chinups 3 x F], or [DB bench 3 x 10, DB row 3 x 10] after you squat. pick something and be consistent with it and push but don't kill yourself on it.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 19, 2011, 11:48:38 am »
don't do it. do starting strength instead.

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